IUBB Players in the Portal/Draft Exploratory Status

[lillurk]

The staff will be fine. You can field a team with 12 scholarship players if it comes to that. But they’ll know more than us, and there are always late commits, other draft-withdrawing players who will hit the portal, midyear transfers where you might benefit from having an open scholarship, and so on

[Golfman25]

5 minutes ago, DChoosier said:

Agree. I would guess that TJD testing the waters was of zero surprise to the staff. It makes sense for TJD to get the feedback and who knows, maybe a GM or two will be intrigued by what he offers.
The challenge for IU is the potential domino effect with the roster and potential portal players  as the team awaits his decision (will portal bigs look elsewhere, does this impact Race and JG, etc). The camp is May 16-22nd with a withdrawal deadline of June 1st so we have over another month of uncertainty.

His coach stated publicly that he was ready.  So I am sure he has some contingency plans.  

[lillurk]

3 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

His coach stated publicly that he was ready.  So I am sure he has some contingency plans.  

Good point. Also I’d encourage everyone to sit back and get used to this. Not crazy to imagine years to come watching JG, TB, JHS, Jakai, Gabe, etc. doing exactly this

[8bucks]

Good idea for TJD and IU. Hopefully he gets good feedback along the lines of you really made progress and would likely go in the late first round. Perhaps he then hears that if he adds X he could go lottery. This is good for us because Woody sold him on the idea that he would help him get there. It would be good confirmation to hear he did improve his standing but he chooses to come back for one more year.


Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners

[DChoosier]

27 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

His coach stated publicly that he was ready.  So I am sure he has some contingency plans.  

I’m sure they do have contingency plans but some aspects of the roster are unavoidably complicated by the uncertainty of TJD’s status. In particular they might be targeting a big that is interested in IU, as a contingency action, but is that big willing to wait to see if the TJD minutes actually open up? Will be interesting to see what happens over the next 4-6 weeks.

[DChoosier]

24 minutes ago, 8bucks said:

Perhaps he then hears that if he adds X he could go lottery. 

I’ll save TJD the time and effort of going through the combine :)

TJD, add a right hand and being a threat from the perimeter and you could go lottery. Your welcome.

[HoosierFan1994]

Glad he's doing this. He'd be crazy not to. Him not at least testing last year surprised me. Sounds like though he is probably coming back. He said essentially if he's not an late first/very early second round pick he's coming back. I'd be very surprised if he is a top 35 pick. If he gets a combine invite I'd expect his decision to probably be around June 1st. If not, it'll be early-mid May before we hear. I assume Woodson and the staff know what the plan probably will be. 

[HoosierFan1994]

43 minutes ago, lillurk said:

Good point. Also I’d encourage everyone to sit back and get used to this. Not crazy to imagine years to come watching JG, TB, JHS, Jakai, Gabe, etc. doing exactly this

Exactly. It may suck waiting around for a month. I don't like the long process at all but it's best for the players. It prevents some kid making a quick decision and not having the opportunity to play in college anymore. Wasn't the old deadline like a week after the final four? Now it's essentially June 1st. Plus, we want this. In order to continue getting top players, you have to send some of them to the NBA. 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Well, we have reached out to 2 or maybe 3 replacement bigs. It makes sense for him to give it a go.  I just hope if he does go, we land someone to actually be excited about. Without him our Ceiling drops 50%.  

[HoosierFan1994]

2 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Well, we have reached out to 2 or maybe 3 replacement bigs. It makes sense for him to give it a go.  I just hope if he does go, we land someone to actually be excited about. Without him our Ceiling drops 50%.  

If they can get Reneau I'll be happy. However, from what I have read with Trayce's quotes today, I put it at 95% he is coming back. I can't see him being a top 35 pick.

[Henryville Hoosier]

I wonder what Race's plans are, you would think he would be making a decision soon.

[RaceToTheTop]

1 hour ago, HoosierFan1994 said:

If they can get Reneau I'll be happy. However, from what I have read with Trayce's quotes today, I put it at 95% he is coming back. I can't see him being a top 35 pick.

Is there something magical about top 35?  I don’t know how draft contracts work.

[cthomas]

Not exactly on topic, but there is an interesting article in the IndyStar with Thad Matta talking about his year at Indiana. All positive from his viewpoint. Also has some really good things to say about CMW.

[Hoosierfanyuh]

28 minutes ago, brumdog45 said:

Is there something magical about top 35?  I don’t know how draft contracts work.

I know first round gets a guaranteed contract or something like that 

[IU Scott]

15 minutes ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

I know first round gets a guaranteed contract or something like that 

That is only 30 picks in the first round

[Hovadipo]

45 minutes ago, brumdog45 said:

Is there something magical about top 35?  I don’t know how draft contracts work.

Only thing I can think is that the Pacers have the Rockets’ 2nd rounder which will be likely pick #31. Maybe a shot at staying home matters to him? After pick 30 you’re a non-guaranteed summer league body until you’re not though. 

[Stuhoo]

15 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

That is only 30 picks in the first round

Maybe he’s thinking if he’s in the top 35 he’s got a reasonable shot at 1st round, but beyond that it is a long shot.

[Demo]

1 hour ago, brumdog45 said:

Is there something magical about top 35?  I don’t know how draft contracts work.

I don’t think there’s anything magic about 35 exactly, but I did a quick perusal of 2nd round contracts in the last 3 drafts and it looks like the 1 way contracts with multi-year guarantees start drying up pretty good around pick 40. 

[HoosierHoops1]

5 hours ago, lillurk said:

I would guess this, too, but do we know it? Can someone FOIA it?

I don't think it's officially contingent, but it's for Indiana charities and their proximity could be a limiting factor to how much he can help.

 

[Joe_hoopsier]

6 hours ago, Golfman25 said:

His coach stated publicly that he was ready.  So I am sure he has some contingency plans.  

I would be confident in saying that the staff, along with TJD *knew this the day after our last loss. The fact that it's release timing has been managed as it has, means TJD and the staff are orchestrating what is best for both parties. 

This is akin to Jobs leaving Apple. All pieces fall in a specific order. E Pluribus Woodsen.