(2024) PF - Derik Queen to Maryland

[cleeter]

I think that is bad for both Maryland and IU because it will allow more teams to get involved and pollute the process!

Very bad for Maryland I would think. Not great for us but not end of the world I hope. With Kansas and Houston still involved, you never know what ground they could make up if it goes into the spring.

 

 

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[Hardwood83]

41 minutes ago, cleeter said:

Barring something changing, sounds like we shouldn't expect to see DQ sign anywhere during the November period

Some new info or announcement? 

[Demo]

11 minutes ago, Hardwood83 said:

Some new info or announcement? 

https://247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/article/five-star-big-man-derik-queen-will-not-sign-during-the-early-signing-period-2024-basketball-recruiting-indiana-maryland-houston-kansas-219951003/
 

Huh. Got to figure Willard is pretty unhappy. They have so much invested here.

[HinnyHoosier]

This is easy for me to say because I'm a grown man and my life's path is already determined -- but I'm going to say it anyway: I'm ready for this recruitment to wrap up and be out of the way regardless of who he chooses. I can't put my finger on it but this one has just gotten under my skin to the point I'm feeling pretty indifferent about it. 

[CSP]

32 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Not good for our chances if true.

He knows so much about IU. If he was sold he would commit. If he’s not sold by now there probably aren’t new variables that will change the equation.

Possibly... it's also possible 3 weeks ago he was signing for Maryland this week and Woodson's visit made him hold off. 

[8bucks]

30 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Not good for our chances if true.

He knows so much about IU. If he was sold he would commit. If he’s not sold by now there probably aren’t new variables that will change the equation.

I agree unless he wants to see what Woodson's offense would look like now that TJD is gone.  Woody has said having TJD was great but created a need to run a different offense than he preferred.  So that begs the question, what will his offense really look like.  

It could also be that DQ just has trouble making a decision.  He will have options and can basically go anywhere so waiting does not hurt him much but would be tough to continue to invest in him exclusively as your #1 big.

[Demo]

37 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Not good for our chances if true.

He knows so much about IU. If he was sold he would commit. If he’s not sold by now there probably aren’t new variables that will change the equation.

No idea if it’s good for IU or not, but there’s no way it’s good for Maryland. 

[HinnyHoosier]

3 minutes ago, Demo said:

No idea if it’s good for IU or not, but there’s no way it’s good for Maryland. 

Agreed. There hasn't been this much sweating at Maryland since Gary Williams. 

[Demo]

Just now, Ngw7183 said:

Correct, they could in theory win him back but for a guy that was all but penciled in, this shows IU made big in roads and completely changed his plan to sign in the fall. Maryland is the one where there is nothing else they can do. They had the “home town discount” if you will. 

In Woodys voice, “well again” - This comes down to us having a solid year and TJD doing well (as he has been), JHS and MM getting going wouldn’t hurt either. 

He is saying, ok IU, I am there to spurn my long time love, but not 100. Show me more. 

Would assume the issue here is roster construction. With Reneau and Sparks almost certainly in place, if for whatever reason Ware doesn’t go after this year the fit for Queen doesn’t make a bunch of sense. In the spring you’ll have clarity. 

[IUHoosier5]

4 minutes ago, Demo said:

Would assume the issue here is roster construction. With Reneau and Sparks almost certainly in place, if for whatever reason Ware doesn’t go after this year the fit for Queen doesn’t make a bunch of sense. In the spring you’ll have clarity. 

I see no way in which Ware doesn’t declare and become a 1st Round Pick. I think that’s been the plan all along. When the season is over, he may even had earned lottery status. If Reneau’s defense improves significantly with the rest of the team and he shows he can consistently shoot some from outside, he may declare as well. The kid can score, so I think his biggest question mark is defense. I’m interested to see how Coach gets him to make that improvement.

[IU_FanClub]

58 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Not good for our chances if true.

He knows so much about IU. If he was sold he would commit. If he’s not sold by now there probably aren’t new variables that will change the equation.

Well in that case it would be bad news for all 4 schools, he's making a huge decision he probably just wants to be absolutely sure of himself

[IU_FanClub]

I'm ready for this one to be over and I hope we never recruit against Maryland again. The obsession on peegs with the Maryland board has reached a point of being totally pathetic and it's completely dominated every thread. There is no reason at all we should give any sort of **** what Maryland fans think. If we lose this one we will make it up on the back end in the spring, if they lose this one they are screwed. Just overall shocked at the level of real estate some IU fans have let maryland purchase in their heads

[Demo]

6 minutes ago, IUHoosier5 said:

I see no way in which Ware doesn’t declare and become a 1st Round Pick. I think that’s been the plan all along. When the season is over, he may even had earned lottery status. If Reneau’s defense improves significantly with the rest of the team and he shows he can consistently shoot some from outside, he may declare as well. The kid can score, so I think his biggest question mark is defense. I’m interested to see how Coach gets him to make that improvement.

I hope you’re right on both of them. I am on the very high end of Reneau admirers around here, love him, but if he goes from where he is now to draftable in the next 6 months, that would amazing and bode incredibly well for the season. And Ware’s in the exact state he was 12 months ago and he melted down. I like his chances for success much better here, but he’s gotta do it. Regardless, I completely get why Queen would want to watch it play out rather than just jumping in. 

[Josh]

I know a lot of fans don't like it, but if I was a top player who could go anywhere, I absolutely wouldn't pick until the late signing period.  I'd want to know roster construction  and coaching staffs.  So much of that changes/becomes more clear late in the year

[Stuhoo]

9 minutes ago, Josh said:

I know a lot of fans don't like it, but if I was a top player who could go anywhere, I absolutely wouldn't pick until the late signing period.  I'd want to know roster construction  and coaching staffs.  So much of that changes/becomes more clear late in the year

Yup; unless you were absolutely sure and wanted to get it over with.

[HoosierFan1994]

19 minutes ago, Josh said:

I know a lot of fans don't like it, but if I was a top player who could go anywhere, I absolutely wouldn't pick until the late signing period.  I'd want to know roster construction  and coaching staffs.  So much of that changes/becomes more clear late in the year

Agree. 2/5 of our starting lineup is here for those two exact reasons. It's not great for IU but honestly he is torn. If I was Maryland I would be worried. Guess my only thing with Maryland is they have Reese probably coming back next year. Here at IU it is anticipated we lose Ware so he would take over the 5 spot. Totally understand why he wants to see the season play out. Kansas makes zero sense IMO. Houston worries me but it sounds like they are a distant third. I'll give credit to Rabby. He's had a very good pulse on this recruitment. 

[JSHoosier]

If Willard was surprised to not get him when the signing period started then there's no way he likes hearing that news.

He's just not certain. This at least gives IU a chance to show how much the team gels and how well Ware and Reneau do under Woodson and staff.

[bird4par]

1 hour ago, Josh said:

I know a lot of fans don't like it, but if I was a top player who could go anywhere, I absolutely wouldn't pick until the late signing period.  I'd want to know roster construction  and coaching staffs.  So much of that changes/becomes more clear late in the year

See MM last year. 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

1 hour ago, Josh said:

I know a lot of fans don't like it, but if I was a top player who could go anywhere, I absolutely wouldn't pick until the late signing period.  I'd want to know roster construction  and coaching staffs.  So much of that changes/becomes more clear late in the year

Made sense before transfer portal, but now with the spring recruits they are competing with the entire transfer portal.  The power is diminished. 
If you trust the staff you are going to they don’t recruit over you in the TP so lock up that spot while your in demand. 
 

‘24 recruitng has turned out the be exactly like ‘23 recruting. Spring recruiting, here we come. 

[IUHoosier5]

Rob Cassidy said it’s “probably” not great news for Maryland. If Ware and Reneau can show further development, I think it has to be IU. To me, all signs indicate this is Queen’s thought process.