Mike Woodson to be next IUBB coach. Thad Matta to be associate AD

[colonel06]

I see Woodson the same as Howard at Mich.


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[GreatMcCracken’sGhost]

2 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

Yeah but will they pick up the phone.  I think Woody could call a lot of NBA folks at 2am and get it answered. 

I think this is more important than most “traditional” college ball fans are going to give it it credit for. Players are no longer lining up for the coaches that will help them learn how to shoot free throws. Even Coach K has had to adapt to that reality in the past few years. Winning is the most important factor, but influence is second.

[8bucks]

10 minutes ago, brumdog45 said:

That is a story from 2017, when Woodson had wanted the job that eventually Archie Miller got.

It is interesting that Woody and Brown combined to pitch themselves as a package.  I know Woody was initially thrown off by the Matta deal/no deal thing so I wonder if they got together to discuss a team approach. Matta gets a chance to see how things go being more active than he is now and Woody gets to take on the IU job with some immediate help from a college expert 

[Hoosierfan1901]

Anyways, MIKE ******* WOODSON

[Trish]

I’ll take Woodson over Moser and Drew.
 

There I said it. Are you happy???
 

[Banksyrules]

1 minute ago, TheDarkKnight69 said:

For con 3, there is a difference between being told by a grown man that is a professional to F off and a kid who is trying to make it there. 

Every team has those “ I know it all kids” these kids can help you or really destroy the chemistry of the team. 

[Hoosierfan222]

22 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Wish they would lose so we can get him here sooner 

I would absolutely LOVE that.

[FrenchConnection]

2 minutes ago, GreatMcCracken’sGhost said:

I think this is more important than most “traditional” college ball fans are going to give it it credit for. Players are no longer lining up for the coaches that will help them learn how to shoot free throws. Even Coach K has had to adapt to that reality in the past few years. Winning is the most important factor, but influence is second.

Winning is the most important factor for us. Getting guys drafted and paid is what matters to top recruits. Every year Duke and UK posts a list of current NBA players who passed through the program. That is their most important recruiting tool.

[FrenchConnection]

3 minutes ago, Treesh said:

I’ll take Woodson over Moser and Drew.
 

There I said it. Are you happy???
 

And there is no way that Woodson is going to give a rah rah pregame speech with horse racing gates. At least we hired a grown @$$ man.

[HoosierMatty]

Let's all give coach Woody a chance. The fact that so many people hate this hire and are making for fun of us makes me think maybe this if finally the right choice. I think he can clearly coach and he's loves indiana and want to give it his all. And if he can recruit he can get us back. Woody has to know all this trash and negativity he's getting. I hope he uses that as his fire to prove them all wrong.

[Adillac]

First feeling when I heard the news: ugh. seriously?

Mulled it over for awhile and after hearing that Matta was going to be a part of this....I began to feel quite positive about it.

Ok, so Indiana isn't a job that the Celtics coach wants...fine. I get it. And to be fair, why would any established young(ish) coach in the NCAA jump ship to come here? Money is all about the same at all the big state schools anyway. Indiana is either going to be a big jump in pay and presitge (Archie/Crean) or its going to be a somewhat sideways move with more pressure and less job security (Beard/Mussleman/Drew/etc). 

Reasons I like the Woodson/Matta hire:

1. Mike is an Indiana guy. It will matter imo. It will make Mike feel like he owns the job. It's his (and our) house. He doesn't have to act like he wants to be in Hoosier country. He belongs here. That will translate to the players imo.

2. NBA experience. Doesn't matter if the players didn't watch him play growing up. Not many people in basketball are hired as a head coach in the NBA. You can poo poo his coaching record, fine. I don't think its a negative. It is only a positive.

3. He will bring accountability and a real mentor leader quality. You don't play under Knight and flourish as a player and then become a coach without taking some of that with you. 

4. He seems affable and engaging. Archie was NOT. Crean was somewhat but he was a little manic and squirrely. Woodson seems calm, experienced, likeable. 

5. Matta: Indiana is SUCH a dead place that they got a former Knicks headcoach and one of the most successful B1G coaches in history to come run the basketball program together. lol. The Matta connection might pay dividends in ways we cannot know right now. I think it could be significant. But maybe not? Who knows..

I wanted Stevens. We all did. I kinda wanted Beard. Woodson is a bit older, but I think a lot can be accomplished in 4-5-6 years. This is probably phase 1 of a bigger plan too. Bring in Michael Lewis, or Fife, or Cheaney as assistant coaches? ...the transition to the next coach could just be in-house. 

I'm glad we didn't get Moser or Musselman, or Drew. Would have been ok with Beard or even the guy from Alabama. 

We have an IU guy. I'm not upset. 

[Trish]

3 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

And there is no way that Woodson is going to give a rah rah pregame speech with horse racing gates. At least we hired a grown @$$ man.

Yeah I’ll take Woodson over Mussleman too. I guess the cool thing about Woodson is that we don’t know what he could do in the college game. 

[DWB]

8 minutes ago, Treesh said:

I’ll take Woodson over Moser and Drew.
 

There I said it. Are you happy???
 

Not sure you even had a vote...

[IU Scott]

I did not read through all of the pages but probably got mainly your negative post which is your right to be negative.  He was not my fist choice but after Stevens, Beilein or Matta I was not really thrilled with anyone else out there.  I was never sold on Oats or Muslleman because they seem to much of a flash in the pan and haven't proven that much.  I also don't think those two were going to leave anyway so that is a mute point.  There must be something up with Beard because Goodman said that UCLA and now IU has not reached out to him about their openings.

I have seen IU go outside the IU family for 21 years and get some top candidates but it has not worked.  My thinking it was time to go this route to see if an IU guy can get us back because they know what it takes to win at IU and what the fan base is like.

I have been a fan for 50 years and I will be one until god calls me home so I will back Woodson as our next coach.  I just hope everyone will go in with an open mind and give him a chance.  I know some will say they are through with IU basketball and that is your right to do that but I will only say one thing see ya.  also if anyone wants to give their season tickets away I will take them.  Sports are for entertainment and think some take it way to seriously if they get this upset over who is hired at IU.  I spent a great day celebrating my first grand child's first birthday so everything in my world is great.

[JJacks]

16 minutes ago, Banksyrules said:

Ok being a huge Knicks fan I’m trying to be fair as I possibly can.

Pros-

1) Nice guy

2) knows his Xs and Os and anyone who decides to come in will walk away better. 

3) If all current (freshman) stay we will make a run in the tournament by the time they’re seniors. Specifically Lander who can become an elite point guard under him.

4) An IU guy (personally I don’t care but maybe it can help?)

5) Tries to hold everyone accountable.

6) understands the need to hire great assistants.  Frankly because he had to deal with incompetent NBA front offices.

 

Cons-

1) I don’t know if has the energy to recruit. Specifically elite recruits.  I know people say his staff will do a lot of leg work but Head Coaches in elite schools (maybe we’re not anymore) do they’re fair share as well. This is my observations being close to seeing Coach K and Roy  work at times.

2) His age. I could have accepted this more if we hired him instead of coach Crean.  Now, I don’t how much longer he can coach.

3) He can be pushed around. A lot of the Knick players liked him a lot, but it was posted many a time that when the best players pushed back he always backed off.  I hope that if a player calls him out at IU he can keep the ship together.  

4) Has to learn how the college game works.  Not an easy transition.  

I hope I’m being fair. I’ll root for the guy. I’m just not going to watch until we’re winning consistently. My blood pressure can’t take it. He was ninth on my list.  For the sake of the program I hope it works out. 

Agree with 1 & 2.  

In regards to #3 it appears to me that EVERY NBA coach backs off when a player pushes back.  The coaches that don't (outside of maybe a few) get seen the door before the star player does. 

With #4 I think the pro game is ahead of where the college game is.  It seems like  most colleges are trying to mimic the style of play in the NBA.  I see this as a positive.  If you're referring to style of play and not other aspects of the college basketball. 

[TheDarkKnight69]

9 minutes ago, Banksyrules said:

Every team has those “ I know it all kids” these kids can help you or really destroy the chemistry of the team. 

Right but you can actually punish a kid in college for talking back, where if you try in the NBA you will once again be told to F off 

[Trish]

1 minute ago, DWB said:

Not sure you even had a vote...

Uh sir, I have an IU degree. That’s all it takes these days. 
 

;)

[HoosierTrav]

15 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Mike Woodson and Scott Dolson will speak at a Zoom press conference at 10 a.m. tomorrow, per release.

Sales meeting is officially cancelled! It’s Woody Time bitchessssss!

[PB1230]

2 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

I did not read through all of the pages but probably got mainly your negative post which is your right to be negative.  He was not my fist choice but after Stevens, Beilein or Matta I was not really thrilled with anyone else out there.  I was never sold on Oats or Muslleman because they seem to much of a flash in the pan and haven't proven that much.  I also don't think those two were going to leave anyway so that is a mute point.  There must be something up with Beard because Goodman said that UCLA and now IU has not reached out to him about their openings.

I have seen IU go outside the IU family for 21 years and get some top candidates but it has not worked.  My thinking it was time to go this route to see if an IU guy can get us back because they know what it takes to win at IU and what the fan base is like.

I have been a fan for 50 years and I will be one until god calls me home so I will back Woodson as our next coach.  I just hope everyone will go in with an open mind and give him a chance.  I know some will say they are through with IU basketball and that is your right to do that but I will only say one thing see ya.  also if anyone wants to give their season tickets away I will take them.  Sports are for entertainment and think some take it way to seriously if they get this upset over who is hired at IU.  I spent a great day celebrating my first grand child's first birthday so everything in my world is great.

I think most fans wanted Oats/Musselman more as a flex about stealing another power conference coach rather a real preference based on coaching ability

[Rico]

3 minutes ago, HoosierTrav said:

Sales meeting is officially cancelled! It’s Woody Time bitchessssss!