Mike Woodson to be next IUBB coach. Thad Matta to be associate AD

[Stuhoo]

2 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

I’m sure the recruits parents can explain some of these names. Carmelo in the 2000s. Huge name.  Carmelo now, that guy drafted with Lebron and Wade 

C’mon Brass, you asked and now you know. And you know better. 

The man has multiple years with Chris Paul for crying out loud.

[Southside]

1 minute ago, Five Prime said:

I think I have a few of their basketball cards in an old shoebox somewhere. 

I'm surprised your dad let's you play with his cards.

[HinnyHoosier]

Whatever makes you look cool buddy. Anyone who knows me here that I chatter about all IU sports. I rooted for the women’s basketball and football team before it was cool.

So it won’t hurt you a bit to put the big boy pants on and see this through...

Buddy.


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[TheDarkKnight69]

Kids aren’t stupid. They know who a lot of these big name guys that Woodson has coached are. 

[IUCrazy2]

Ok, have waited on this for awhile before going on initial reaction.  I have my doubts but here are the things I could think of as to why this may work:

1.  Woodson wants this job.  It wasn't just the next available step on the career ladder.  He bleeds this place, losing is going to hurt him on multiple levels.  I saw there were Big Ten people laughing about the hire. Ok, saddle up Woody.  You beat their @$$ as a player, time to do it as a coach.

2.  NBA connection.  Well covered here.

3.  African American coach.  Indiana (as a state) has this reputation as being a backwater that is not real minority friendly.  This squashes that.  Let's be real, most of the guys being recruited are going to have more in common with Woodson then they would with a white Texan.  There is not another "blue blood" program doing this.

4.  There are some people a little put off by this.  I kind of am...BUT, if this works out, he is the type of hire that will get people back in the fold quickly.

That being said, I think his most important job in the next few days is getting as many guys back out of the portal and committed to Indiana as possible and trying to convince the rest to stay.  Then lwts see if we can steal a few guys.

Dolson did not win the press conference.  Ok.  I get that.  But we've been a bunch of flash and no substance for about 20 years.  I want Woodson to come in and have a take no prisoners attitude.  **** Goodman.  **** those other Big Ten contacts the Phillip's was talking to.  **** the national media who is shoveling dirt over Indiana like it is dead.  IU vs. the world at this point.  Screw talking, let's go to war.

[iubb]

I’m sure the recruits parents can explain some of these names. Carmelo in the 2000s. Huge name.  Carmelo now, that guy drafted with Lebron and Wade 

I’m pretty kids these days know NBA history if they are someone who has sights set on becoming an NBA Pro.

 

It’s not like they can watch archival footage of old NBA games.

 

Oh wait.

 

 

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[Trish]

We need an XO’s coach and two major recruiters. 
 

Hire John Belien as a senior advisor to the program. 

[Artie86]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

As someone else said there has only been like 70 black NBA coaches, he can tell a recruit he is one of them. He has 25 years of NBA experience. He has Matta, he has friends in AAU, World Wide Wes loves him. Plus he hasn’t assembled his staff yet.

Calbert, Fife, Lewis????

[TheDarkKnight69]

Just now, Treesh said:

We need an XO’s coach and two major recruiters. 
 

Hire John Belien as a senior advisor to the program. 

If they hired him for another non coaching role, I think we’d have a case of “Too many cooks in the kitchen”

[Brass Cannon]

Just now, Stuhoo said:

C’mon Brass, you asked and now you know. An know better. 

The man has multiple years with Chris Paul for crying out loud.

That doesn’t answer the question. He’s knows a bunch of NBA guys.  Most of them Recruits won’t know.  Others were washed up before our recruits starting liking girls.  Chris Paul thing could be useful I will admit. 

[FrenchConnection]

3 minutes ago, IU Prof said:

This is where I'm at. Woodson clearly knows the game and how to win from an Xs and Os standpoint. The question is just whether he can parlay his NBA connections to recruit at a sufficient level to win here. If he can come in recruiting at even 80% of the level Penny Hardaway did at Memphis, he'll do fine.

That having been said, this isn't the hire I would have made. Gives me strong Ewing to Georgetown vibes.

Ewing had never been a head coach at any level. Not even in high school.

[Sandman]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

As someone else said there has only been like 70 black NBA coaches, he can tell a recruit he is one of them. He has 25 years of NBA experience. He has Matta, he has friends in AAU, World Wide Wes loves him. Plus he hasn’t assembled his staff yet.

I also think it's pretty impressive to be able to say to a recruit, "I played 12 years in the NBA. I know what it takes to make it and I can show you." , before he even has to talk about his NBA coaching record.

[RaceToTheTop]

7 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

Does Melo really impress recruits?   

I think the lack of credit people give young players is incredible.  

[pumpfake]

Just now, brumdog45 said:

So you learned that you had to give Tom Allen time....but not Woodson?

Exactly.

I don't follow the football team as closely as BB, but I was totally underwhelmed when Tom Allen was hired without even a search.  So far it's turned out damn well - in large part because of TA's enthusiasm.  It's said that Woodson really wants this job and has for several years.  IMO there's a definite chance this works out well (DISCLAIMER: No coaching hire ever comes with an assurance of success).

[IUrocker]

I think this could end up being a matter where the opposing coaching staffs look at the bench of our coaching staff in the pregame handshake  and go “oh s**t..”.....because I really think if they brought in Woodson his staff is gonna be BA. 

[Stuhoo]

5 minutes ago, Five Prime said:

I think I have a few of their basketball cards in an old shoebox somewhere. 

You have a Julius Randle basketball card in an old shoebox? That’s weird.

[Brass Cannon]

2 minutes ago, iubb said:

I’m pretty kids these days know NBA history if they are someone who has sights set on becoming an NBA Pro.

 

It’s not like they can watch archival footage of old NBA games.

 

Oh wait.

 

 

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I very seriously doubt kids are poring over film of games from the 2000s.  

[Chris007]

1 minute ago, Artie86 said:

Calbert, Fife, Lewis????

I love Calbert but not sure he’s ready to recruit on an elite level. But any of them are good with me.

[iubb]

I very seriously doubt kids are poring over film of games from the 2000s.  

Um. I am pretty sure they are.


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[RaceToTheTop]

9 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

I think it means that he sees what they’re doing and he intrigued.

I read it as eyes open and thinking.  Intentionally vague.