General Coach Candidate News

[Hoosierfan2017 19,915]

5 minutes ago, Treesh said:

Yeah I’m finding it hard to believe Indiana is paying the football coach $5 million and the basketball coach $6-7 million.

 

Money is falling from the top of Briscoe I suppose! 

A successful football program would basically be the equivalent of money falling from the top of Briscoe. We have so much untapped earning potential there. I don’t know about $7 million, but if we’re paying our football coach $5 million I can’t see us paying our basketball coach less than that. We’re a basketball school. We’ll always be a basketball school. I expect our next coach’s salary to reflect that. We’re not getting a top guy to come here by offering Archie’s salary. 

[Hovadipo 53,006]

37 minutes ago, Magisterium said:

so here's the "skunk at garden party" take:

Allen given raise by Dolson means, in addition to rewarding CTA for his good work, Miller is being retained for Year 5 (thereby saving $7 mil, even though donors are now willing to pay it anyway)

 

here's the "optimist's" take on the "skunk at garden party" take:

Dolson has a promising, maybe even elite, replacement in mind who is 1) interested but 2) unavailable, for whatever reason, until 2022

 

here's the "2nd skunk at garden party" take on the "skunk at garden party" take:

Dolson can afford the Allen raise because he's 1) pulling the plug on AM but 2) going with a cheaper replacement

Or option 3: the two positions and the money tied to them are in no way related other than the guy who’s signing the paychecks.

[Alford Bailey 12,259]

17 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

Or option 3: the two positions and the money tied to them are in no way related other than the guy who’s signing the paychecks.

This

[wirenuts 1,055]

16 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

Or option 3: the two positions and the money tied to them are in no way related other than the guy who’s signing the paychecks.

or the person whose name is on assembly hall is paying the buyout portion in full to move the needle towards a new coach

[Josh 12,380]

1 hour ago, wirenuts said:

or the person whose name is on assembly hall is paying the buyout portion in full to move the needle towards a new coach

And the person whose name is on the practice facility is paying the first 4 years of the new coach.  Final Fours pays the rest

[Southside 1,914]

18 hours ago, CrimsonV said:

Crean is making 3.2M at Georgia. 

Yup, but nobody will offer AM that IMO. 3.2 is top 20 or 25 pay. 

I was surprised UGA gave Crean that, but I can understand why they did. And Crean's resume is better than AM.

[Chris007 42,331]

33 minutes ago, Josh said:

And the person whose name is on the practice facility is paying the first 4 years of the new coach.  Final Fours pays the rest

Also football success the next 3-4 years would pay for the rest.

[HoosierTrav 7,619]

9 hours ago, hoosierpap said:

Missed this.

Sure, IU back channels to agents. But for the most part it remains agents- but better believe those agents have a feel for where their client is at. My assumption is it remains that way due to the coaching fraternity and it's kinda unwritten rules.

 

So, yeah, donors aren't going in completely blind- and will sure let their opinion be known as they cut any type of check. 

Thanks for touching on this. I figured it would look something like this. 

[yogisballin 2,288]

I want a win at nearly all costs guy. Ya know like a calipari, if you know what I’m saying


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[coonhounds 8,694]

Also football success the next 3-4 years would pay for the rest.

I know this is the basketball forum and I love what tom Allen has done with the football program and did deserve a raise because our program has been trash since forever but am I the only one who is concerned about the fact we still haven't won a bowl game and alot of things fell our way to have a good season last year? I am expecting to be relatively disappointed this season and won't be one bit surprised.

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[MikeRoberts 6,837]

5 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

I know this is the basketball forum and I love what tom Allen has done with the football program and did deserve a raise because our program has been trash since forever but am I the only one who is concerned about the fact we still haven't won a bowl game and alot of things fell our way to have a good season last year? I am expecting to be relatively disappointed this season and won't be one bit surprised.

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You shouldn’t be surprised at all. I think we got a pretty good look at what to expect watching the bowl game.

I don’t think you can continue to bring in players barley recruited and make that a consistent winner. This has been a special group but he needs to start bringing in higher rated recruits to maintain anything good

[coonhounds 8,694]

You shouldn’t be surprised at all. I think we got a pretty good look at what to expect watching the bowl game.
I don’t think you can continue to bring in players barley recruited and make that a consistent winner. This has been a special group but he needs to start bringing in higher rated recruits to maintain anything good

Thanks glad I am not the only one. Lots to be concerned with but some optimism especially from where we came from. But that bowl game against a team we clearly should have beaten was bad. Pen st win was lucky. I watched every game and have concerns that some fans may be let down. I thought we would be pretty good in basketball but look how that turned out lol

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[Trish 11,414]

22 minutes ago, yogisballin said:

I want a win at nearly all costs guy. Ya know like a calipari, if you know what I’m saying


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Time for Pitino? 
 

Night Moves in Bloomington approves! 

[TheWatShot 13,336]

15 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

I know this is the basketball forum and I love what tom Allen has done with the football program and did deserve a raise because our program has been trash since forever but am I the only one who is concerned about the fact we still haven't won a bowl game and alot of things fell our way to have a good season last year? I am expecting to be relatively disappointed this season and won't be one bit surprised.

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I expected to be disappointed in 2020 after the success we had in 2019. I don't think we'll beat Penn State or Michigan this time around, but maybe we get Iowa or Minnesota instead. I guess at some point, we'll have another season that we just aren't satisfied with for one reason or another. 

[Chris007 42,331]

21 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

I know this is the basketball forum and I love what tom Allen has done with the football program and did deserve a raise because our program has been trash since forever but am I the only one who is concerned about the fact we still haven't won a bowl game and alot of things fell our way to have a good season last year? I am expecting to be relatively disappointed this season and won't be one bit surprised.

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This raise will keep other football programs from trying to steal Allen away 

[Bobman1 2,909]

Yeah I agree. Relatively young, very quick turnarounds at both stops, good on the transfer market but immediately a good recruiter of HSers at Arkansas, where that’s probably a better option than it is at Nevada. He employed Jordan Sperber, the Hoop Vision guy, at Nevada.
His pattern at both stops: massive improvement in year one from the recently established historical level of the program, then year two is another step up.
 

But he’s “weird!” Can’t have a guy who’s weird be our head coach even if he could take us top 10 in a few years.


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[Trish 11,414]

I’m waiting for Stuhoo to come in hearing talking up Gates after tonight.

 

Stu might have found the next gem. 
 

Get for Boston College ;)

[coonhounds 8,694]

This raise will keep other football programs from trying to steal Allen away 

Who was trash talking you on hsn been looking and can't find anything was going to stick up for you. I agree 100 percent with Allen pay increase just think fans are getting a bit ahead of ourselves

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[Hoosierfan2017 19,915]

16 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

Thanks glad I am not the only one. Lots to be concerned with but some optimism especially from where we came from. But that bowl game against a team we clearly should have beaten was bad. Pen st win was lucky. I watched every game and have concerns that some fans may be let down. I thought we would be pretty good in basketball but look how that turned out lol

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The bowl game was a disaster, but Tuttle was hurt and we didn’t have Penix. Of course, Penix is injury prone so that’s still a concern with him. I’m not sure we’re top 15 or 20 material in a full season, but I’m optimistic we can be an 8 or 9 win team. We’ll get a good idea of where we stand early on. 

[Banksyrules 4,254]

23 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

You shouldn’t be surprised at all. I think we got a pretty good look at what to expect watching the bowl game.

I don’t think you can continue to bring in players barley recruited and make that a consistent winner. This has been a special group but he needs to start bringing in higher rated recruits to maintain anything good

You know I get that we want to get better, but historically I don’t think we’ve had anything this special with our football team.  I understand that we need higher rated recruits to put us over the edge but at the same time this is really the first year that high level out of state recruits  would even hear or consider our program. I get we need to but don’t be surprised if it takes a couple more years.  Maybe we can get one or two top 100 but I wouldn’t expect it this year.