Bowhunter Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 I’m in my mid 40s and loved Calbert as a player. However, I do not think he is the answer. My biggest fear is him being mediocre and having to hold on to him for a decade. That is one of the downfalls of hiring within. Calbert seems like a great guy, really soft spoken, from my hometown. Lots to love, but I feel out of all the coaches not actively in the tournament, I like Belein, Fife and maybe Lewis before him due to their coaching experience. If it was up to me, it would be Oats, Musselman, or Beard Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners IUBBx5Banners, cybergates and Hardwood83 3
GreatMcCracken’sGhost Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 Just now, Artie86 said: I meant an Army of support. And recruiting connections.
HoosierFan1994 Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 Inside the Hall has a nice piece on different candidates. They have 11 so far...I'm pretty sure Calbert would be number 11 on that list. I'm an Evansville guy and that would be an awesome story! Calbert is an awesome person. I met him after a game about ten years ago at Assembly Hall. Would love for him to be the top assistant. But in no way is he ready to be the Indiana Head Coach guys. If he isn't good enough for UE, IUPUI, and UIndy...come on.... theriverpilot, Hardwood83, moyemayhem and 2 others 5
southernindianahoosier2 Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 27 minutes ago, HankTheDeuce said: That's been a consistent theme on Peegs. I believe Peegs himself has indicated there was interest from Beard's side but appeared to be no interest from IU due to Beard "not being the right fit" - whatever that means. WHAT?????
Hoosierfan2017 Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said: I think Cheaney is a bit more modern than Archie was. I think he'd definitely be able to connect more with players and definitely has a better personality. Getting the right assistant coaches would be huge for him obviously. But I would be excited with him. I wouldn't be ready to fire him unless I seen enough red flags like Archie after 2 years. Based off what? He’s never been a head coach and his assistant coaching resume is pretty thin. The University of Evansville didn’t want him to be their head coach. Do we officially have lower standards than the University of Evansville? Hippopotamo, IUBBx5Banners, moyemayhem and 3 others 6
SteelerHoosier Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 If it has to be an IU guy sign me up for CC. At least he's young enough to be here 20 years and just be entering his 70s if we hit on him. Won't have to worry about him leaving for another job if he has success. Has coached in the program before. I don't want an IU guy, but I'd rather take a flier on him instead of the others.
ElectricBoogaloo Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 38 minutes ago, cleeter said: Good morning Mr. Dolson. Thank you for seeing me. I feel if you look at my resume, you’ll see I have all the qualifications you are seeking in the next coach and Indiana University Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Everyone knows you have to win over moms in the recruiting battles. Big Handsome will have no trouble there! mookied39 and cleeter 2
TheDarkKnight69 Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, HoosierFan1994 said: Inside the Hall has a nice piece on different candidates. They have 11 so far...I'm pretty sure Calbert would be number 11 on that list. I'm an Evansville guy and that would be an awesome story! Calbert is an awesome person. I met him after a game about ten years ago at Assembly Hall. Would love for him to be the top assistant. But in no way is he ready to be the Indiana Head Coach guys. If he isn't good enough for UE, IUPUI, and UIndy...come on.... Out of curiously, was he a legitimate candidates at any of the schools you mentioned? sabaka and T White 2
thehelgo Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 The more I read on Michael Lewis, the more I think he becomes a good option if we go with an 'IU guy'. He can build a staff with other IU guys if desired, but of the IU options mentioned, Lewis seems to have the most complete coaching background. Golfman25, PB1230, LockdownD and 2 others 5
Hoosierfan2017 Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, Artie86 said: I meant an Army of support. Support from former players isn’t going to win us games. What’s his recruiting pitch going to be? “I played at IU so you should too”? I know I’m being repetitive, but he should not be a serious candidate. His qualification is his IU degree, and that’s not going to win him games as a coach either. Hippopotamo, IUBBx5Banners and Wavychips 3
IUBBx5Banners Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 I don’t get this. People discredited Mike Woodson (who has real nba coaching experience!) because he has never recruited before. But we are fine with CC who has never even been the lead assistant at a P5 program and whose recruiting abilities are completely unknown? Justin Kotter, cybergates, Hoosierfan2017 and 1 other 4
HankTheDeuce Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 1 minute ago, southernindianahoosier2 said: WHAT????? Peegs mentioned it in the chat. Said it could still happen but the indications they have thus far are that Beard has at least some interest and that they don't believe IU is interested due to lack of fit. It's always possible conversations are happening, but Peegs said they do not believe IU has even contacted Beard.
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: Based off what? He’s never been a head coach and his assistant coaching resume is pretty thin. The University of Evansville didn’t want him to be their head coach. Do we officially have lower standards than the University of Evansville? Based off hope mainly. I think he'd be able to modernize the program and give a fun style of play. Also believe he'd be able to actually develop talent.
Hoosierfanyuh Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 Just now, HankTheDeuce said: Peegs mentioned it in the chat. Said it could still happen but the indications they have thus far are that Beard has at least some interest and that they don't believe IU is interested due to lack of fit. It's always possible conversations are happening, but Peegs said they do not believe IU has even contacted Beard. Thats crap FWHoosier84 and T White 2
Stuhoo Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: Based off what? He’s never been a head coach and his assistant coaching resume is pretty thin. The University of Evansville didn’t want him to be their head coach. Do we officially have lower standards than the University of Evansville? Not a fair criticism IMO. There's a job he didn't get? So what.
Hardwood83 Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said: Based off hope mainly. I think he'd be able to modernize the program and give a fun style of play. Also believe he'd be able to actually develop talent. Fair enough, but wouldn't you rather invest that "hope" in someone that already has a record of successfully doing that? IU Scott and Hoosierfan2017 2
HoosierFan1994 Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 9 minutes ago, Stuhoo said: I'll say this...and it's a "me" thing, not a coaching thing: I find it attractive if we make a hire that does not have a pre-established reputation with another program. A reputation that will follow them no matter how well they do at IU. My best case scenario is if we have a program and a coach that are inherently connected. Howard? UM, Calipari? UK, K? Duke, Drew? Baylor, and on and on and on. From the names that have been discussed the ones that would fit that model-that don't already get completely associated with a particular program, are: Lewis, Fife, Enfield, Stevens (kinda), Cheaney, Woodson, Moser (kinda), and a lot of the up and comers. That's just me. I felt that way about that too but honestly my preference is that Indiana wins...there have been three what I would call splash hires in the last 20 years in college basketball: Rick Pitino to Louisville (He had a pre-established reputation at Providence, UK and the NBA) Roy Williams to UNC (I get he went there but we was at Kansas for awhile.) John Calipari to Kentucky (He had a pre-established reputation at Memphis and UMass as well as the NBA. Each of these three have something in common: They have won National Championships (spare me 2013-Louisville won it). IU and UCLA get a lot of crap about replacing a legend. So far UConn has struggled since Calhoun left (Ollie had his team). Let's see how Duke, Syracuse, and Michigan State do after their HOF coaches leave. HankTheDeuce and woodenshoemanHoosierfan 2
Gnet550 Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 11 minutes ago, TheDarkKnight69 said: At this point, if TJD and the transfer portal guys are gone, I’m expecting a losing record no matter who the coach is. Whoa there cowboy, pump the brakes....TJD has made no indication and the other three seem to be just keeping options open, likely if they don’t feel like they fit in the new coaches system or mesh with the coach. I agree we need a good hire, but they can be retained
TheDarkKnight69 Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 It’s easy to judge any candidate by their experience or history or anything, but ultimately, we do not know what their vision is for the program or what they are telling Dolson that will sell him to hire them. That’s why I am fine with whatever candidate we end up with. I don’t think Dolson is going to hire someone because he has no options woodenshoemanHoosierfan 1
IUBBx5Banners Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Stuhoo said: Not a fair criticism IMO. There's a job he didn't get? So what. True but nobody said this when a ton of people were saying the fact that Woodson hasn’t gotten another HC since the Knicks is an indictment of his coaching ability. woodenshoemanHoosierfan 1
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