General Coach Candidate News

[finky]

23 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Ken wants a nice day to drive around campus with his top-down  and stare at young girls

Or he wants somebody who just barely survived getting run over by a dump truck

[Trish]

10 minutes ago, FritzIam4IU said:

If IU can’t get Brad, Drew, Beard or Mack I am warming to the idea of Mussleman.

This is only his second season at Arkansas. Arkansas fans have been up and down on him all year and especially last year. They are happy now obviously but March is a different season of course.

He haS a top 5 kid coming in next year. He's a car salesman that is selling the program well. We'll see if they do anything in March.

And Frankly, he's beaten IU twice last year. He stole Justin Smith away. He knows Indiana Basketball is popular but Arkansas Basketball can be popular as well.. 

[BleedCubbieBlue]

33 minutes ago, Treesh said:

Who does Kenn Nunn want? Haven't seen that old fart in a while. 

Ken has been too busy chasing around ambulances to weigh in, but I would guess he would say "Hire Brad Stevens, (snaps fingers) it's just that easy!"

[DChoosier]

39 minutes ago, Treesh said:

Steve Alford Indiana Basketball.

 

Imagine that. Would make a lot of older folk happy that's for sure. 

I’m an “older folk” that would not be happy.
Loved him as a player but, aside from his other issues, name a successful power 5 coach that was run out of town from two previous power 5 jobs.  I can’t think of anyone.

[el drado]

10 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

On a message board it’s extreme frustration for most.  Coming off a year where they would of qualified for the ncaa tournament and the natural progression would be to build on this and improve from last year.  I don’t think many grasp the effect that having 2 would be  senior starters from last years team not playing would have in the long run.  I know I didn’t grasp the effects.   At Indiana fair or unfair you can’t go from a tournament quality one year to a 12-15 team the next year without upsetting fans.  When it’s all said and done when Archie moves on I hope some people that are showing hate show him some love for some of the none on court results stuff that he got done.   Forcing the administration to move into a direction where they were not stuck in the 80’s will probably be his biggest accomplishment that will benefit future staffs 

I get it, i do.  I was rooting for him, as i liked his temperament, but if he is in over his head then changes need to happen. 

IU needs consistency, we haven't had that in decades.  I personally think that Archie had a bigger mess to clean up after crean then people acknowledge (APR, roster issues, talent issues), but if he isn't the guy IU needs to go big or stfu.

[Str8Hoosiers]

1 & 1a

 

[theriverpilot]

29 minutes ago, IUHAHN81 said:

Maybe I'm just a soft a$$ 40 year old but I felt bad for Archie during his presser when asked about the fire Archie chants. I like the guy. Just not right for IU. He just doesn't have the ability to get us right. Hopefully it works out for both sides. This hire has to be the right one. No questions asked(assuming Achie is gone).

I don't think anyone dislikes the man.  None of us know him personally but when you're the highest paid state employee (well, maybe not now after Allen) and you're not performing then changes need to happen.  Nice people get let go all the time for under performing.

[Over 100 Games]

All likeliness of interest/chances aside, I feel like this is the hierarchy of coaches to be considered: 

Dream Scenario (will probably never happen):
1. Brad Stevens

2. Billy Donovan 

Tier 1: 

3. Scott Drew 

4. Chris Beard 

Tier 2: 

5. (A lot will disagree with this, BUT): Greg Marshall. Guy did get in trouble, but he’s an amazing coach that we would have never had a shot at before. Very Knight-like.
 

6. Eric Musselman -  Killed it at Nevada - and went 21-5 this year! What a record! Never had less than a 20 win season as a head coach.
 

7. Craig Smith - Utah State head coach and COY in 3 different conferences. Very impressive record. Have no idea why his name hasn’t been tossed around. He’s like Musselman except 8 years younger.

 

Tier 3: 

8. Chris Jans - was under Greg Marshall for a long time. Currently head coach at New Mexico St - several winning seasons under his belt. This year his team somewhat under performed but he has had an impressive career. 

9. Dane Fife

[Indiana8585]

3 minutes ago, el drado said:

I get it, i do.  I was rooting for him, as i liked his temperament, but if he is in over his head then changes need to happen. 

IU needs consistency, we haven't had that in decades.  I personally think that Archie had a bigger mess to clean up after crean then people acknowledge (APR, roster issues, talent issues), but if he isn't the guy IU needs to go big or stfu.

I don’t think some realize how bad but Archie Miller has had the worst conference record of any IU coach in almost 100 years. Even Crean didn’t go four years without a winning conference season. 

[IUHAHN81]

Just now, theriverpilot said:

I don't think anyone dislikes the man.  None of us know him personally but when you're the highest paid state employee (well, maybe not now after Allen) and you're not performing then changes need to happen.  Nice people get let go all the time for under performing.

Oh I totally agree bud. 

[theriverpilot]

1 minute ago, Over 100 Games said:

All likeliness of interest/chances aside, I feel like this is the hierarchy of coaches to be considered: 

Dream Scenario (will probably never happen):
1. Brad Stevens

2. Billy Donovan 

Tier 1: 

3. Scott Drew 

4. Chris Beard 

Tier 2: 

5. (A lot will disagree with this, BUT): Greg Marshall. Guy did get in trouble, but he’s an amazing coach that we would have never had a shot at before. Very Knight-like.
 

6. Eric Musselman -  Killed it at Nevada - and went 21-5 this year! What a record! Never had less than a 20 win season as a head coach.
 

7. Craig Smith - Utah State head coach and COY in 3 different conferences. Very impressive record. Have no idea why his name hasn’t been tossed around. He’s like Musselman except 8 years younger.

 

Tier 3: 

8. Chris Jans - was under Greg Marshall for a long time. Currently head coach at New Mexico St - several winning seasons under his belt. This year his team somewhat under performed but he has had an impressive career. 

9. Dan Fife

Better correct the name of #9 before you get roasted.  And welcome aboard!  :-)

[Indiana8585]

34 minutes ago, IUHAHN81 said:

Maybe I'm just a soft a$$ 40 year old but I felt bad for Archie during his presser when asked about the fire Archie chants. I like the guy. Just not right for IU. He just doesn't have the ability to get us right. Hopefully it works out for both sides. This hire has to be the right one. No questions asked(assuming Achie is gone).

Well when I was a freshman at IU Mike Davis got booed the whole year and the next year which was his last. That was just two years after a trip to the title game so missing the tourney again and never having a winning record in conference takes it’s toll IMO no hate just frustration. 

Edited March 12, 2021 by Indiana8585

[Over 100 Games]

2 minutes ago, theriverpilot said:

Better correct the name of #9 before you get roasted.  And welcome aboard!  :-)

Good looking out!

[Trish]

The new guy mentioned Greg Marshall! 

[lillurk]

1 minute ago, Treesh said:

The new guy mentioned Greg Marshall! 

Marshall is a non-negotiable no. But he also mentioned Chris Jans, an interesting new long shot name. 

[Over 100 Games]

5 minutes ago, Treesh said:

The new guy mentioned Greg Marshall! 

Oh haha. I’m guessing that’s been said and I’m not supposed to do that.

[Over 100 Games]

4 minutes ago, lillurk said:

Marshall is a non-negotiable no. But he also mentioned Chris Jans, an interesting new long shot name. 

Had Craig Smith been brought up before too then?

[Mr. Hoosier Pride]

I've never liked the idea of an Alford hire but will admit I'd take him over Archie right now. His floor is likely much higher than Archie's ceiling at IU.

That being said, I'd rather not go after him... but wouldn't be distraught if we went that direction.

I'm pretty high on Moser.

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[Trish]

2 minutes ago, Over 100 Games said:

Oh haha. I’m guessing that’s been said and I’m not supposed to do that.

LOL. 

Welcome to the Board.

We want Brad Stevens.

[Bobman1]

Had Craig Smith been brought up before too then?

Hadn’t heard that name yet either. And he mentioned Musselman being a potentially good option and didn’t think to include that the guy is “weird.” Good first post! Not all of us care if our next successful coach is weird.

 

 

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