General Coach Candidate News

[Chris007 62,616]

6 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

He’s not a good fit for the holier than thou IU administration. At least UM is elite academically so the mentality makes a little more sense. I’ll never understand it for IU. We’re an average school academically and, because of the administration, average (at best) athletically. So why the elitist, we’re better than you, attitude? Schools like UK will do whatever it takes to win. IU won’t. The results speak for themselves. 

From what I understand IU is about one of at least 5 universities that have looked at Beard's file and said no thanks. UCLA already did it once before he beat up his wife, U of L is another. Someone will take a chance but we're not one of them. We might find out if UK will hire him soon. 

[Hoosierfan2017 25,177]

2 minutes ago, IndyResident16 said:

Won't disagree with any of that, but that's purely a choice. In regards to actual fit, Chris Beard is a home run. Guys like Archie Miller and Mike Davis weren't a good fits because of their lack of personality. Chris Beard has all the traits to manage expectations here, very few do. It's why we keep hiring new coaches every 4-5 years. 

I have zero doubts that Chris Beard would excel at IU. He’s 18-4 at Ole Miss, a school with 8 tournament appearances. He's likely going to go to a top school and excel there. I’d be fine if IU hired him. He’s a great coach. Probably one of the best in college basketball. But IU won’t ever hire him. They wouldn’t hire him even before the DV allegation. So, we’ll just have to watch him succeed somewhere else. 

[94Bulldog 753]

1 hour ago, Adillac said:

I'm surpised by this analysis. 

Shrews is by far the least proven of the 3 that were mentioned: a losing record in 3 years at IU Southbend, barely above .500 in 2 years at PSU and currently has a 7-15 record at ND. That's a poor resume. 

May has a better resume.

Schertz has an amazing resume.

Yea, Shrews doesn’t excite me at all.

[Stuhoo 90,789]

7 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

From what I understand IU is about one of at least 5 universities that have looked at Beard's file and said no thanks. UCLA already did it once before he beat up his wife, U of L is another. Someone will take a chance but we're not one of them. We might find out if UK will hire him soon. 

Since it's a message board I'm going to speculate:

1. Chris Beard's difficulties with alcohol have not been confined to solely the reported incidents; and he says he still drinks.
2. Chris Beard's police-reported incident of potential domestic abuse, at age 40-something, is not the only time in his life he has gotten physical when drunk and angry.

Because people who make $5 million/year hires do their homework and word travels.

HELLUVA basketball coach though.

[IndyResident16 567]

Just now, Ngw7183 said:

Going to break my rule of not replying to you. Probably bad idea.
 

First - are you Beard? His new girlfriend (careful if so), his agent?

I assume not, so the funny part to me is your probably have 500 posts on message boards campaigning for him when everyone with any sense of reality tells you IU WILL NOT hire him. I have also seen it that UL already dug in and will not either FYI.   That canes from a guy who knows about coaching moves. 

You then keep making claims like - he would quit tomorrow for IU. Really? How do you know? I bet there is a less than zero chance that if that guy is truly recovered from his alcoholism, that he knows there are situations you shouldn’t put yourself in. Any alcoholic knows this. So he knows a pressure cooker like IU is a terrible idea. That he has a low stress environment at Ole Miss. That any new job needs to be at a place with less BB expectations. 

all that is assuming he cares at all about his problems. If he doesn’t, then your whole, “he is healed”, is crap and he has zero self awareness or care to stay sober. 

so give it a rest. 

I care about winning. Chris Beard solves that. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Adillac 1,009]

38 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Shrews was the top assistant to Brad Stevens and Matt Painter, was an NBA assistant, and took a perennial bottom feeder B1G team to 23 wins and the NCAA tournament in his second year as their head coach. 

Feel better about his resume now? He'd be the closest thing to a young, sure thing we could hope for.

 

Yes, a little bit. Pat Chambers won 26 games at PSU once, too. Shrews hasn't stayed the head coach anywhere long enough to establish a winning program, so I think it's fair to question that. A lot of ppl were assistants under great coaches. 

[IndyResident16 567]

3 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I have zero doubts that Chris Beard would excel at IU. He’s 18-4 at Ole Miss, a school with 8 tournament appearances. He's likely going to go to a top school and excel there. I’d be fine if IU hired him. He’s a great coach. Probably one of the best in college basketball. But IU won’t ever hire him. They wouldn’t hire him even before the DV allegation. So, we’ll just have to watch him succeed somewhere else. 

Almost want him to come to the B10, just to shove it in our face. On the other hand, that's just one more program we're going to be looking up at. There's not many left at the bottom at this point and there's a seat saved. 

[Chris007 62,616]

2 minutes ago, IndyResident16 said:

I care about winning. Chris Beard solves that. Nothing more, nothing less.

Nothing wrong with that. Then go root for his team. But we don't need to talk about him and IU anymore. 

[Banksyrules 5,344]

2 minutes ago, IndyResident16 said:

Almost want him to come to the B10, just to shove it in our face. On the other hand, that's just one more program we're going to be looking up at. There's not many left at the bottom at this point and there's a seat saved. 

That's the IU spirit

[IndyResident16 567]

8 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Since it's a message board I'm going to speculate:

1. Chris Beard's difficulties with alcohol have not been confined to solely the reported incidents; and he says he still drinks.
2. Chris Beard's police-reported incident of potential domestic abuse, at age 40-something, is not the only time in his life he has gotten physical when drunk and angry.

Because people who make $5 million/year hires do their homework and word travels.

HELLUVA basketball coach though.

Glad you said you were speculating, because that's all you're doing.

1. His "difficulties" with alcohol or whatever you and others claim clearly haven't prevented him from performing his duties. He's ascended through the coaching ranks faster than any coach I can ever remember. On the verge of taking his 4th program to the NCAAT in 8 years and next year will be his 5th whoever hires him. Only Lon Krueger and Rick Pitino can lay the claim of taking 5 different schools the the dance. It took each of them over 30 years. Beard will have done it in less than a decade.

2. Read the toxicology report included in the police report. Stone cold sober.

 

[go iu bb 9,988]

1 hour ago, Adillac said:

I'm surpised by this analysis. 

Shrews is by far the least proven of the 3 that were mentioned: a losing record in 3 years at IU Southbend, barely above .500 in 2 years at PSU and currently has a 7-15 record at ND. That's a poor resume. 

May has a better resume.

Schertz has an amazing resume.

Yeah, all the Shrews love doesn't make sense to me. His resume is pretty unimpressive.

[IndyResident16 567]

4 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Nothing wrong with that. Then go root for his team. But we don't need to talk about him and IU anymore. 

No particular interest in rooting for Ole Miss regardless of how much I envy their athletic department. They have real pros over there.

[Stuhoo 90,789]

4 minutes ago, IndyResident16 said:

Glad you said you were speculating, because that's all you're doing.

1. His "difficulties" with alcohol or whatever you and others claim clearly haven't prevented him from performing his duties. He's ascended through the coaching ranks faster than any coach I can ever remember. On the verge of taking his 4th program to the NCAAT in 8 years and next year will be his 5th whoever hires him. Only Lon Krueger and Rick Pitino can lay the claim of taking 5 different schools the the dance. It took each of them over 30 years. Beard will have done it in less than a decade.

2. Read the toxicology report included in the police report. Stone cold sober.

 

Holy crap. That arrest happened when he was sober!??!

Yikes.

[Stuhoo 90,789]

Just now, IndyResident16 said:

No particular interest in rooting for Ole Miss regardless of how much I envy their athletic department. They have real pros over there.

"OleMissNon-Resident16?"

[go iu bb 9,988]

4 minutes ago, IndyResident16 said:

Glad you said you were speculating, because that's all you're doing.

1. His "difficulties" with alcohol or whatever you and others claim clearly haven't prevented him from performing his duties. He's ascended through the coaching ranks faster than any coach I can ever remember. On the verge of taking his 4th program to the NCAAT in 8 years and next year will be his 5th whoever hires him. Only Lon Krueger and Rick Pitino can lay the claim of taking 5 different schools the the dance. It took each of them over 30 years. Beard will have done it in less than a decade.

2. Read the toxicology report included in the police report. Stone cold sober.

 

Some posts are so amazingly bad that I just can't help but to reply to it. This is one of them.

So you're saying he can't use the "I was drunk" excuse like it's somehow better? It's actually worse. That says he can't control himself even when sober.

[HoosierHoopster 8,860]

10 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Nothing wrong with that. Then go root for his team. But we don't need to talk about him and IU anymore. 

Well, you tried....

:)

[IndyResident16 567]

2 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Holy crap. That arrest happened when he was sober!??!

Yikes.

And cleared of all charges with everything behind him en route to another 20 win season.

Meanwhile, we're 6 point underdogs tonight to a team that hasn't won a game in a month lol.

[IUc2016 7,121]

Beard is at his 4th program in 8 years? Woof.

sounds like some of the players nowadays in the transfer portal/covid era. And we are arguing that this guy is a good fit? 
 

I know he wins, but jeez. Talk about a risk. 
 

edit: HE IS AT HIS 5th! Let’s not forget UNLV where he bolted before coaching a game lol

[IndyResident16 567]

2 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

Some posts are so amazingly bad that I just can't help but to reply to it. This is one of them.

So you're saying he can't use the "I was drunk" excuse like it's somehow better? It's actually worse. That says he can't control himself even when sober.

I keep hearing the excuse "we can't hire him because he's an alcoholic" and that "alcohol contributed to DV allegations".

Where is the proof that he can't control his liquor?

[Stuhoo 90,789]

Just now, IndyResident16 said:

I keep hearing the excuse "we can't hire him because he's an alcoholic" and that "alcohol contributed to DV allegations".

Where is the proof that he can't control his liquor?

Kevin Wilson says, "I got this. Hold my be..."

ahhh; never mind.