General Coach Candidate News

[HoosierMatty]

I think a lot of the Beard talk is his agents pushing hard, former players that want him and some donors. Does that mean he is given more consideration that previously thought? Possibly, but I still have a hard time thinking we pick him. I don't see the President signing off on him. And while some donors want him I doubt the heavy hitters like the Cook family will be ok with it. 

[Hoosierfanyuh]

Just now, mdn82 said:

And a minority of recruits wouldn’t like Woody cause he doesn’t know their name.  Recruits didn’t like Archie cause he was odd.  Recruits didn’t like Crean cause he clogged their toilets.  Recruits didn’t…. Well ****, they liked Sampson.  Recruits liked Davis cause he let them do what they wanted.  Coin flip if recruits liked our coach in the last 25 years? 

Wouldn’t you want a coach who doesn’t have anything that could possibly lead a recruit another way that is well documented? All i was getting at is some families will not like it, SOME. 

[mdiu28]

6 minutes ago, IUGRAD06 said:

You don’t understand how much pull the big firms have on the university.  We have a lot of women partners that would be extremely upset with this.  Rightfully so.  There would be huge pressure on that side of things and I am a 100% positive that I don’t think Whitten wants to pull that stuff.  We still have all our DEI, Women’s, etc. because we care about things like this.  It won’t change that.  The UT coach didn’t even make it a week before they were back at the drawing board.  

She also understands we need to win - now. Taking a risk on another up and comer could set the program back another 25 years if they aren’t successful. You cannot just keep doing this every four years.

Not saying Beard is the answer but guess what? He wins. If Beard takes us to the Final Four I guarantee you Kirkwood won’t be full of people protesting the coach. Whitten will be dancing around Showalter fountain. His past will be quickly forgotten. Time for IU to get serious about winning. if you judge someone by their weakest moment - guess what - we’re all pieces of ****. I know I am. 

[Hoosierfanyuh]

I don’t think Beard is going to be the next coach regardless sorry for starting petty arguments I’ll stop haha 

[Sandman]

90% of the public has no idea about who might be the president of their local university. If Beard is hired, no one is going to come at the president, they'll go after the AD. And I haven't heard about the citizens of Oxford storming the administration offices about Beard. 

The president at UT during Beard's firing wasn't damaged by it. He eventually left and is now the president at SMU. 

[Hornsby]

Beard won’t unite this base.  He will further divide it.  Remember when UT hired Schiano and had to back out of it.  Similar stuff will happen.  People pushing for him most likely never attended IU-Bloomington and the Bloomington part matters.  They don’t understand the dynamics here and how people will take it.  I will pull my donations and most likely my firm will as well.  One partner to me the other day.  Hiring someone like Beard will make me done with that place.  

Go ahead you are in the minority but are just really loud. Dolson isn't making this hire based on a btown banners posting threatening to pull a donation.

 

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[mdn82]

Just now, Hoosierfanyuh said:

Wouldn’t you want a coach who doesn’t have anything that could possibly lead a recruit another way that is well documented? All i was getting at is some families will not like it, SOME. 

And that’s fair.  I was just trying to add with levity that no matter what there will always be other coaches recruiting negatively against you.  No matter if you are Bob Knight or Archie.  At the end of the day, money talks in the NIL era.  Long recruitments where things like this would be more prevalent are less in this era.  Not saying it won’t happen or he isn’t a dbag.  Just saying, they will all recruit against each other and over 90% are probably dbags for their own selfish reasons.  

[IUGRAD06]

1 minute ago, mdiu28 said:

She also understands we need to win - now. Taking a risk on another up and comer could set the program back another 25 years if they aren’t successful. You cannot just keep doing this every four years.

Not saying Beard is the answer but guess what? He wins. If Beard takes us to the Final Four I guarantee you Kirkwood won’t be full of people protesting the coach. Whitten will be dancing around Showalter fountain. His past will be quickly forgotten. Time for IU to get serious about winning. if you judge someone by their weakest moment - guess what - we’re all pieces of ****. I know I am. 

Dude, if you hit a woman and end up in jail, you are the worst kind of person.  Not a weak moment.  It shows how much of a POS you really are.  Everyone can hold me to that standard and if I did do it, please ban me from ever being a partner at another firm.  I just guess I know I will never do that.  

[SlamaJamaSisley]

2 minutes ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

I don’t think Beard is going to be the next coach regardless sorry for starting petty arguments I’ll stop haha 

Unfortunately, I don’t think so either.  

[Hoosierfanyuh]

Just now, mdn82 said:

And that’s fair.  I was just trying to add with levity that no matter what there will always be other coaches recruiting negatively against you.  No matter if you are Bob Knight or Archie.  At the end of the day, money talks in the NIL era.  Long recruitments where things like this would be more prevalent are less in this era.  Not saying it won’t happen or he isn’t a dbag.  Just saying, they will all recruit against each other and over 90% are probably dbags for their own selfish reasons.  

I agree 

[Hoosier987]

19 minutes ago, mdn82 said:

And a minority of recruits wouldn’t like Woody cause he doesn’t know their name.  Recruits didn’t like Archie cause he was odd.  Recruits didn’t like Crean cause he clogged their toilets.  Recruits didn’t…. Well ****, they liked Sampson.  Recruits liked Davis cause he let them do what they wanted.  Coin flip if recruits liked our coach in the last 25 years? 

To the dismay of some…the majority of IU nation would support a Beard hire. Will there be some that won’t? Sure. No hire outside of maybe Stevens is going to garner 100% of support…and as @Ghost of Rick Majerus noted, when Beard starts winning at the rate we haven’t seen in 25 years (outside of Sampson years) I suspect most of the people not happy with the hire initially will support the program. 
 

To me it’s simple. I’m a Brad and Dusty guy and if they’re a no go, then I’m taking a Beard, Drew or Pearl. We don’t need to take some risk on Mcollum, Schetz, etc. it should never get to those guys. 

I mention Drew…yet there some people that aren’t thrilled with him either because he’s “too religious.”  FYI - I have no issue if a man shows his Faith. I would fully support Drew too.
 

 

[RoadRage]

1 hour ago, AZ Hoosier said:

No, that was one job Woodson was finally able to do... we all wanted him out.

According to Casey Jacobsen, if you don't like Woody...you got a problem!

[IU Prof]

4 minutes ago, mdiu28 said:

 

Not saying Beard is the answer but guess what? He wins. 

Does he, though? Most of his career at the power conference level looks a lot like Woodson, especially recently.

[BleedCubbieBlue]

6 minutes ago, Sandman said:

90% of the public has no idea about who might be the president of their local university. If Beard is hired, no one is going to come at the president, they'll go after the AD. And I haven't heard about the citizens of Oxford storming the administration offices about Beard. 

The president at UT during Beard's firing wasn't damaged by it. He eventually left and is now the president at SMU. 

UT has **** you money from their donors and oil well royalties. SMU is definitely a step in the wrong direction for a president.

I can’t imagine that Dolson would be willing to take the risk. 

[mdiu28]

1 minute ago, IUGRAD06 said:

Dude, if you hit a woman and end up in jail, you are the worst kind of person.  Not a weak moment.  It shows how much of a POS you really are.  Everyone can hold me to that standard and if I did do it, please ban me from ever being a partner at another firm.  I just guess I know I will never do that.  

What do you do for a living? I honestly can’t tell. 

No one cares, dude. 

[IUGRAD06]

Just now, IU Prof said:

Does he, though? Most of his career at the power conference level looks a lot like Woodson, especially recently.

Only reason these people want him is because the wife beater is associated with Knight.  That’s it.  

[steubenhoosier]

1 hour ago, Tony! Toni! Toné! said:

Would be more helpful if it was 4:20

[mdn82]

Just now, Hoosier987 said:

To the dismay of some…the majority of IU nation would support a Beard hire. Will there be some that won’t? Sure. No hire outside of maybe Stevens is going to garner 100% of support…and as @Ghost of Rick Majerus noted, when Beard starts winning at the rate we haven’t seen in 25 years (outside of Sampson years) I suspect most of the people not happy with the hire initially will support the program. 
 

To me it’s simple. I’m a Brad and Dusty guy and if they’re a no go, then I’m taking a Beard, Drew or Pearl. We don’t need to take some risk on Mcollum, Schetz, etc. it should never get to those guys. 

This is where I am at this point.  I have been a very vocal Brad Stevens supporter for 15 years.  I think Dusty would have been ideal if not Stevens.  Just win baby.  I am over the last 30 years of this program.  The people I most feel sorry for are the ones that witnessed Knight come in at a young age and are still fans.  Just win.  

[RoadRage]

1 hour ago, RaceToTheTop said:

I heard Woodson's family voted 3 to 1 in favor of him retiring.

Before or after he was fired?

[Hornsby]

To the dismay of some…the majority of IU nation would support a Beard hire. Will there be some that won’t? Sure. No hire outside of maybe Stevens is going to garner 100% of support…and as [mention=4164]Ghost of Rick Majerus[/mention] noted, when Beard starts winning at the rate we haven’t seen in 25 years (outside of Sampson years) I suspect most of the people not happy with the hire initially will support the program. 
 
To me it’s simple. I’m a Brad and Dusty guy and if they’re a no go, then I’m taking a Beard, Drew or Pearl. We don’t need to take some risk on Mcollum, Schetz, etc. it should never get to those guys. 

100% a few disgruntled posters pulling a donation won't mean I thing.

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