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7 hours ago, MikeRoberts said:

I appreciate ya. While I don’t want Turgeon for example, if we missed out on May, Stevens, Otz etc and we proactively eliminate Beard, Pearl etc, people need to be open.

i have little faith in Dolson but would applaud a great hire if he can do it.

I do have faith in Dolson. I have no worries IU will hire a really good basketball coach this cycle.  Might not be the home run name some want however in my opinion they will get a really good sitting college basketball coach that knows how to a run a program.  

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8 hours ago, 12345Brad said:

You don’t think IU would be a tournament team this year with Collins as the coach?    

I think that if we are discussing Collins as a legitimate option, we have fallen as a program. Is anyone else talking about Brownell??? Collins??? Buzz?? As an option for, say, UNC, or when Texas opens up? No because they are hopefully reaching higher. 
 

yes, Collins would do better than Woodson but he’ll so would Altman, Hoiberg, or Willard. I personally don’t think that means we should hire them. 

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7 hours ago, DChoosier said:


I’ve planted my flag on the Marty Simmons hill.

Pretty decent chance Marty would be on staff if Brownell were to be hired.  There’s my insider contribution to this thread.

Disclaimer: this is not an endorsement that Brownell should be hired.  

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In lieu of the big name and more in line with a Cig type hire.  What would we think of this coaching profile?  Widely regarded as one of the most underrated coaches out there.  

Under 50 years old with 14 years experience.

Has built and created a culture of success.

Finished 1st or 2nd in conference 13 of those 14, with the other being 3rd place.  

Conf winning pct over .750.  

4th straight season over 20 wins which has never been done in his conference. 

Teams play tough defense and are in the top 10 in fast break points per game.  
 

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21 minutes ago, MrBBall said:

I think that if we are discussing Collins as a legitimate option, we have fallen as a program. Is anyone else talking about Brownell??? Collins??? Buzz?? As an option for, say, UNC, or when Texas opens up? No because they are hopefully reaching higher. 
 

yes, Collins would do better than Woodson but he’ll so would Altman, Hoiberg, or Willard. I personally don’t think that means we should hire them. 

UNC extended Davis.

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6 minutes ago, 94Bulldog said:

In lieu of the big name and more in line with a Cig type hire.  What would we think of this coaching profile?  

Under 50 years old with 14 years experience.

Has built and created a culture of success.

Finished 1st or 2nd in conference 13 of those 14, with the other being 3rd place.  

Conf winning pct over .750.  

4th straight season over 20 wins which has never been done in his conference. 

Need more context.  Conference matters.

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12 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Need more context.  Conference matters.

Sure I realize that.   I purposely left it off because it will instantly cause people to say no way since it’s not a P5.  I bet @USPShoosier knows who I’m talking about.

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26 minutes ago, MrBBall said:

As an option for, say, UNC, or when Texas opens up?

Those programs were open at some point and they hired Hubert Davis and Rodney Terry when they had a chance to go in a different direction.  A program that has 1 winning conference record in the last 9 years has fallen.  A program that has been past the first weekend of the tourney 1 time in that same time frame has fallen.   A program that has been a middle of the pack B1G team for the last 20 + years has fallen.   Fans of programs that have fallen are usually people the last to realize it.  

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Getting caught up and seeing that Mark Turgeon has done the impossible and united everyone in agreement was really beautiful. Maybe dmv was just trying to remind everyone to find common ground, be better to each other, and remember this coaching search could end up being a total disaster. Or maybe not lol

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3 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Those programs were open at some point and they hired Hubert Davis and Rodney Terry when they had a chance to go in a different direction.

The Terry hire is rather understandable. Texas should actually be given a lot of credit. In 3 successive hires they hired Barnes away from Clemson, Shaka (hottest young coach at the time) from VCU, and pre-incident Beard from conf and instate rival TT. 

That’s a pretty strong run for a football school. I bet they get another good candidate when Terry gets the boot. 

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56 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

I do have faith in Dolson. I have no worries IU will hire a really good basketball coach this cycle.  Might not be the home run name some want however in my opinion they will get a really good sitting college basketball coach that knows how to a run a program.  

We are on the same page. 

All those involved realize this is a make or break hire. Better times are ahead. 

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23 minutes ago, 94Bulldog said:

In lieu of the big name and more in line with a Cig type hire.  What would we think of this coaching profile?  

Under 50 years old with 14 years experience.

Has built and created a culture of success.

Finished 1st or 2nd in conference 13 of those 14, with the other being 3rd place.  

Conf winning pct over .750.  

4th straight season over 20 wins which has never been done in his conference. 

Robert Jones of Norfolk St?

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Any talk about it being hard to pull a coach from their current job if it is a good or decent situation is ridiculous. IU needs to go out and pay a great coach big money to come. A message needs to be sent around the sports world that IU isn't messing around anymore. Bottom line is that big money will get a great coach here, Stevens or not. IU can't cheap out on this hire...

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5 minutes ago, rcbowla said:

Robert Jones of Norfolk St?

Yep, and I get it, I’d initially be underwhelmed too with all the names being floated and not having P5 experience.  But he’s a Cig type hire and a hell of a coach.  If UK and UL had to go down the list, why do we think we won’t have to?  

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15 minutes ago, 94Bulldog said:

Sure I realize that.   I purposely left it off because it will instantly cause people to say no way since it’s not a P5.  I bet @USPShoosier knows who I’m talking about.

Without looking John Becker was my first thought but I think he is over 50.  Good question they I would have to think about.  Got to deliver mail all day though 

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I expect today will bring increased activity and interest, like the last two have.

Anything of substance or definite?  Not likely.

By the way: How in the world did Maryland let Mark Turgeon get away? EPIC BLUNDER!

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45 minutes ago, MrBBall said:

I think that if we are discussing Collins as a legitimate option, we have fallen as a program. Is anyone else talking about Brownell??? Collins??? Buzz?? As an option for, say, UNC, or when Texas opens up? No because they are hopefully reaching higher. 
 

yes, Collins would do better than Woodson but he’ll so would Altman, Hoiberg, or Willard. I personally don’t think that means we should hire them. 

How many schools would hire Herbert Davis?  They too will take big swings and likely go with lower options.  They are actually dealing with needing to improve their NIL.  Look who Kentucky hired.  I don't think it makes sense to say look how far IU has falling by comparing it to a hypothetical UNC coaching search.  

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