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3 hours ago, TheDMV said:

Just a question for you all:

Is the significant negativity for Mark T mostly about his personality or results in the court, or some of both? If it’s the latter, it’s worth pointing out in his last 7 seasons at Maryland, his very worst team was the 2017-2018 squad, a team that went 19-13, finished 39 in KenPom, and probably should’ve been in the tournament. That was the *worst* team. In his four years at Texas A&M, he was dancing every season. 
 

So if you consider that and then add in that IU offers better NIL and other resources, is it really that crazy for  Dolson to think he’d be successful at IU?

 

again, just worth keeping an open mind. It’s a lot harder to hire away coaches who are having success than fans think. 

Look Mrs. Turgeon, I'm sure your son is a lovely young man and is the best of boys but I unfortunately think we are going to pass.

 

The rest of you need to be nice to your elders.

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I appreciate ya. While I don’t want Turgeon for example, if we missed out on May, Stevens, Otz etc and we proactively eliminate Beard, Pearl etc, people need to be open.
i have little faith in Dolson but would applaud a great hire if he can do it.
I think Cronin is the best option given our stance of hiring nobody with any skeletons that want to come.

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I hope that whomever is truly in charge of signing off on a new basketball coach for IU, lands one that has the potential for greatness, and not just an improvement over our current coach, (or even recent coaches such as Miller & Crean). The University of Illinois had Lou Henson and Purdue had Gene Keady. Two very good coaches that provided lots of 20 win seasons, a few Big Ten championships and exactly zero NCAA championships. They were good programs, not great programs and they produced good teams, not great teams. We need potential greatness hired at IU, not a coach who can likely guarantee "good" teams that provide 20 win seasons more often than not.

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Saying we should go after coach X, Y, or Z because he would have killed with this year's roster is not a great argument. Seriously, it would be hard to name very many coaches who wouldnt have done a better job. This roster was considered by many to be the most talented in the Big Ten.

I may be totally wrong, but I still think Dolson already has his guy. I'm not saying I know who it is, but I think he is pretty confident that he is coming, or at least has a solid backup plan.

Let's face it, none of us know how a coach will do here. IU got lucky with Coach Knight. Had Wisconsin not screwed up, he would have been there, and who knows what would have happened. Hindsight is easy. Foresight, not so much... 

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7 hours ago, MikeRoberts said:

I appreciate ya. While I don’t want Turgeon for example, if we missed out on May, Stevens, Otz etc and we proactively eliminate Beard, Pearl etc, people need to be open.

i have little faith in Dolson but would applaud a great hire if he can do it.

I do have faith in Dolson. I have no worries IU will hire a really good basketball coach this cycle.  Might not be the home run name some want however in my opinion they will get a really good sitting college basketball coach that knows how to a run a program.  

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8 hours ago, 12345Brad said:

You don’t think IU would be a tournament team this year with Collins as the coach?    

I think that if we are discussing Collins as a legitimate option, we have fallen as a program. Is anyone else talking about Brownell??? Collins??? Buzz?? As an option for, say, UNC, or when Texas opens up? No because they are hopefully reaching higher. 
 

yes, Collins would do better than Woodson but he’ll so would Altman, Hoiberg, or Willard. I personally don’t think that means we should hire them. 

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7 hours ago, DChoosier said:


I’ve planted my flag on the Marty Simmons hill.

Pretty decent chance Marty would be on staff if Brownell were to be hired.  There’s my insider contribution to this thread.

Disclaimer: this is not an endorsement that Brownell should be hired.  

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In lieu of the big name and more in line with a Cig type hire.  What would we think of this coaching profile?  Widely regarded as one of the most underrated coaches out there.  

Under 50 years old with 14 years experience.

Has built and created a culture of success.

Finished 1st or 2nd in conference 13 of those 14, with the other being 3rd place.  

Conf winning pct over .750.  

4th straight season over 20 wins which has never been done in his conference. 

Teams play tough defense and are in the top 10 in fast break points per game.  
 

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21 minutes ago, MrBBall said:

I think that if we are discussing Collins as a legitimate option, we have fallen as a program. Is anyone else talking about Brownell??? Collins??? Buzz?? As an option for, say, UNC, or when Texas opens up? No because they are hopefully reaching higher. 
 

yes, Collins would do better than Woodson but he’ll so would Altman, Hoiberg, or Willard. I personally don’t think that means we should hire them. 

UNC extended Davis.

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6 minutes ago, 94Bulldog said:

In lieu of the big name and more in line with a Cig type hire.  What would we think of this coaching profile?  

Under 50 years old with 14 years experience.

Has built and created a culture of success.

Finished 1st or 2nd in conference 13 of those 14, with the other being 3rd place.  

Conf winning pct over .750.  

4th straight season over 20 wins which has never been done in his conference. 

Need more context.  Conference matters.

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12 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Need more context.  Conference matters.

Sure I realize that.   I purposely left it off because it will instantly cause people to say no way since it’s not a P5.  I bet @USPShoosier knows who I’m talking about.

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26 minutes ago, MrBBall said:

As an option for, say, UNC, or when Texas opens up?

Those programs were open at some point and they hired Hubert Davis and Rodney Terry when they had a chance to go in a different direction.  A program that has 1 winning conference record in the last 9 years has fallen.  A program that has been past the first weekend of the tourney 1 time in that same time frame has fallen.   A program that has been a middle of the pack B1G team for the last 20 + years has fallen.   Fans of programs that have fallen are usually people the last to realize it.  

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Getting caught up and seeing that Mark Turgeon has done the impossible and united everyone in agreement was really beautiful. Maybe dmv was just trying to remind everyone to find common ground, be better to each other, and remember this coaching search could end up being a total disaster. Or maybe not lol

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3 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Those programs were open at some point and they hired Hubert Davis and Rodney Terry when they had a chance to go in a different direction.

The Terry hire is rather understandable. Texas should actually be given a lot of credit. In 3 successive hires they hired Barnes away from Clemson, Shaka (hottest young coach at the time) from VCU, and pre-incident Beard from conf and instate rival TT. 

That’s a pretty strong run for a football school. I bet they get another good candidate when Terry gets the boot. 

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56 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

I do have faith in Dolson. I have no worries IU will hire a really good basketball coach this cycle.  Might not be the home run name some want however in my opinion they will get a really good sitting college basketball coach that knows how to a run a program.  

We are on the same page. 

All those involved realize this is a make or break hire. Better times are ahead. 

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23 minutes ago, 94Bulldog said:

In lieu of the big name and more in line with a Cig type hire.  What would we think of this coaching profile?  

Under 50 years old with 14 years experience.

Has built and created a culture of success.

Finished 1st or 2nd in conference 13 of those 14, with the other being 3rd place.  

Conf winning pct over .750.  

4th straight season over 20 wins which has never been done in his conference. 

Robert Jones of Norfolk St?

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