General Coach Candidate News

[Asha’man 249]

2 hours ago, 5fouls said:

So, we're at the point where we accept a slightly better version of mediocrity?  I get it that Stevens said no.  I get it that May might say no.  But, look for the potential home runs from the other names on the list.  Cronin has already proven over the course of 21 years to NOT be a home run.

I’ll play devils advocate with you.
 

Do we really think Cincinnati is a team that should make the 2nd weekend routinely? I don’t. I remember them getting beat early under multiple coaches. UCLA he made a run but it’s also the NIL era and they do not have the boosters who care enough to bankroll them. So he is at a disadvantage there.
 

You also mention 21 years of experience  he is only 53 years old with 21 years of experience  that’s someone who has had to grind to make it to the upper echelon. I’m not going to hold it against him that he wasn’t making runs to the final four as a 32 year old. He could also be entering his prime.

The last 3 years have seen him make the sweet 16 twice and a Final Four. I’ll weight what he has done at a similar school with lesser NIL than what he did at UC and in his early 30’s. He could raise a banner for IU. 

[Uspshoosier 50,335]

Just now, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

Scott Drew

I think he might be one of those candidates that doesn’t get talked about much however when it gets closer to March out of now where you hear a lot of smoke about.   I think he is the sleeper one that might be higher then some think 

[JF87 1,951]

1 hour ago, MrBBall said:

Yeah I agree. He’s the best of the future and if he resigns with Michigan and IU doesn’t get Stevens, how will we all feel?

I'll be angry that Woodson didn't step aside last year so we could have hired Dusty when he was available. 

[Juwan Moye 718]

4 minutes ago, IUHoosierJoe said:

I think you make good points here.  The problem is, some of us older guys have lost patience and have little interest in “stabilize.”  And I think, given both the current landscape of college basketball and the resources at our disposal, it’s OK to expect more than that.  Quite frankly, I want to be sitting here 6 or 7 years from now and be thought of as one of the 6 best programs in college basketball, because that’s absolutely what we’re capable of.

If we could realistically get the top coach in the sport, which Id argue is Nate Oats, then yeah we’d all want that.

I think what you’re seeing is that some of us realize many of these coaches won’t be realistic for us. Example: we’d be happy with Beard but he’s controversial and apparently our current admin wouldn’t even consider him. I’m not saying that’s right or wrong but when you’re looking at the top of the sport, who is actually  realistic hire that puts us in that top 6-7 you mention?

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1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

I think he might be one of those candidates that doesn’t get talked about much however when it gets closer to March out of now where you hear a lot of smoke about.   I think he is the sleeper one that might be higher then some think 

We’d be happy with him for sure but I think the skepticism arises since he turned down both UK and UofL last season. Maybe he has a special place in his heart for us but that seems unlikely, similar to the Brad Stevens stuff. (Although Brad’s still in until he’s out)

[rayl456 679]

1 hour ago, maharkn said:

I don't think he can recruit well enough to stay near the top of the Big ten. As of right now he has no signings for next year. Can he not recruit or is he not recruiting because he plans on being somewhere else next year

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When he was an assistant for Huggins at UC he was known for his recruiting and recruiting connections.  Regularly recruited NYC and East coast.  But that was pretty long ago.  Just my opinion, but I think UCLA is still a strong brand name on the West coast and helps with their recruiting.  But I could be way off base.  He will get players.  But how great his recruiting might be in Indiana, I have no clue.

[IUHoosierJoe 1,777]

1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

I’m 47 (an old guy)and want the same thing however sometimes it doesn’t work like that.  If we skip steps and hire a shark and we are rolling awesome however if we have to settle for a coach like Cronin and I actually get to watch IU compete for the top of the B1G and actually participate in the tourney consistently then I won’t be mad at that either 

I’m almost 60.  If Michigan can go from 8-24 to a 4 seed in the tournament in one year, it’s not unreasonable to expect Indiana to skip steps as well.  I mean, guys my age especially lived what we’re capable of, and the fact that we’ve stayed around for 25-30 of mediocrity is pretty remarkable.  But I think it’s time for IU to stop taking that remarkable support for granted.

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1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

I’m 47 (an old guy)and want the same thing however sometimes it doesn’t work like that.  If we skip steps and hire a shark and we are rolling awesome however if we have to settle for a coach like Cronin and I actually get to watch IU compete for the top of the B1G and actually participate in the tourney consistently then I won’t be mad at that either 

I’m somehow in the middle here. Not really big on Cronin, for who he is generally, but he’s a solid coach that would likely have us competing in the top group of teams in conference and playing regularly in March, which means a chance. On the other hand, May, if possible, for me is a slam dunk, and despite Archie, I’m on the fence about whether an up and comer would be better for the program long term, assuming the “right” up and comer is picked, and that’s just as big a risk if not more than Cronin, so right back to where I started

[Hoosierfan2017 23,251]

14 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

I'm sorry. I have no interest in this. 

That's great. We are Iowa/Minnesota now. 

Minnesota has made the tournament 6 times this century. Iowa isn’t much better - 10 times this century. In what world is that comparable to Cronin?

[go iu bb 7,609]

11 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

We must not lose iu scott! Please stay. This program is really in the dumpster if we ran scotty r off!

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It's alright. We don't actually need him to know what he'd say to anything, it's well known how he feels about things.

If it's not 1990 (or earlier) basketball it's inferior and he doesn't like it. Analytics are bad and are ruining college basketball. NIL and the transfer portal are bad. The B1G should still have only 10 teams and no conference tournament.

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1 minute ago, IUHoosierJoe said:

I’m almost 60.  If Michigan can go from 8-24 to a 4 seed in the tournament in one year, it’s not unreasonable to expect Indiana to skip steps as well.  I mean, guys my age especially lived what we’re capable of, and the fact that we’ve stayed around for 25-30 of mediocrity is pretty remarkable.  But I think it’s time for IU to stop taking that remarkable support for granted.

Same age, same thoughts. “Patience Grasshopper” is starting to sound like it’s for the young

[Home Jersey 12,221]

There’s no way we pull Drew from Baylor IMO and I don’t see us hiring Beard. Of the “realistic” candidates there is a lot to like about Cronin. I would be pretty happy with the hire. He’s still 53, consistently in the tournament, and shown upside at UCLA recently. Give him our NIL and I think he has a very good run here. Biggest drawback is probably the contract buyout - I don’t put much stock in the idea of there being a “loophole” that would make it $0 which I’ve seen in a few outlets. It’s not my money so if our better candidates say no thanks I have no problem with them spending what it takes to become a top half of the B10 team again that has a chance in March more often than not. That definitely looks different to different people but that’s what Mick Cronin looks like to me. Lol. Guess I’ll be president of his fan club. And his grumpy demeanor is just an added bonus for me. 

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 10,033]

2 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

I think he might be one of those candidates that doesn’t get talked about much however when it gets closer to March out of now where you hear a lot of smoke about.   I think he is the sleeper one that might be higher then some think 

Who has a better resume? 

I'm 34-- so I don't remember Baylor before Drew (basically)... he made Baylor a flat out power. When you look at his record at Baylor past those first three years... mercy. He makes 5.3 million a year now.... can we pay 7/7.5? 

Past those two...we agree on McDermott and I think kids in this state would flock to him to play in that offense. 

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3 minutes ago, Juwan Moye said:

I think the skepticism arises since he turned down both UK and UofL last season

It has been reported he holds the IU job in a higher position then those 2 but who knows 

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 10,033]

2 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

There’s no way we pull Drew from Baylor IMO and I don’t see us hiring Beard. Of the “realistic” candidates there is a lot to like about Cronin. I would be pretty happy with the hire. He’s still 53, consistently in the tournament, and shown upside at UCLA recently. Give him our NIL and I think he has a very good run here. Biggest drawback is probably the contract buyout - I don’t put much stock in the idea of there being a “loophole” that would make it $0 which I’ve seen in a few outlets. It’s not my money so if our better candidates say no thanks I have no problem with them spending what it takes to become a top half of the B10 team again that has a chance in March more often than not. That definitely looks different to different people but that’s what Mick Cronin looks like to me. Lol. Guess I’ll be president of his fan club. And his grumpy demeanor is just an added bonus for me. 

We can pull a coach from UCLA but not Baylor?!?! 

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I dont really see IU going after Cronin. 

His buyout is a definite negative, and I would hope that he is far enough down the list that it wouldn't get to him. I'm not that opposed to him as a coach here, for the record, anybody would be better than woody. 

I just can't imagine that is a name that donors will pony up for

[str8baller 6,337]

If Indiana wants to get back to the middle of the pack, or slightly ahead, how bout Fran McCaffery? He’s run his course in Iowa. His kids live in Indiana now.  
 

Then Iowa can have McCollum

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4 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

Who has a better resume? 

I'm 34-- so I don't remember Baylor before Drew (basically)... he made Baylor a flat out power. When you look at his record at Baylor past those first three years... mercy. He makes 5.3 million a year now.... can we pay 7/7.5? 

Past those two...we agree on McDermott and I think kids in this state would flock to him to play in that offense. 

Probably the single most greatest program  building  job of any coach.  He took over a program that they involved a murder of a player.   Look it up.   Insane job building Baylor into what they are today 

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1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

It has been reported he holds the IU job in a higher position then those 2 but who knows 

Interesting. He has a personal connection to the state of IN of course, and IU is clearly a better job than UL.

But…UK…hard to make the case it’s a worse job than IU, unless (like Drew) you have some special personal preference

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Just now, str8baller said:

If Indiana wants to get back to the middle of the pack, or slightly ahead, how bout Fran McCaffery? He’s run his course in Iowa. His kids live in Indiana now.  
 

Then Iowa can have McCollum