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7 minutes ago, mdiu28 said:

Buzz Williams has made it past the Sweet Sixteen once and has only won a single conference title. 

No.

I guess but making a sweet 16 at a place like Virginia Tech is impressive.  Not sure when you are at a place like Virginia tech you are expected to be competing for conference titles.   A&M not really known for being a basketball powerhouse and he has done some good things there in his time.  15-3 conference record and finishing second seems impressive to me.  I get it though IU should be in a place where they can do better however from my point of view he is the exact kind of coach IU needs if the top guys say no.   College basketball grinder 

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1 minute ago, mdiu28 said:

Buzz Williams has made it past the Sweet Sixteen once and has only won a single conference title. 

No.

4 S16s, 1 turned into an E8. Has A&M rolling this year. Also turned around VT. 

You give him the competitive advantage of IU's NIL resources, he can get you where he's been and further in March IMO. 

Is he the best coach on the list? No, but he is a guy who can inject life into the program and will be everything people wish for in a HC as a brand ambassador for the university. He has shown he can turn around P4 programs, which is what we need, and he's capable of leading a team that has a shot in March. I don't think a F4 on the resume is a requirement for IUBB in 2025. All you can do is give yourself a shot. I'd roll with Buzz and be excited coming off Woodson. Not sure if he leaves Texas A&M but wouldn't be upset one bit if he did. We'd have a pretty good idea about the next 6 years or so. 

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26 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Why not buzz?

I like Buzz, and think he’s done well at some tough spots. That said, I’m guessing A&M would overpay potentially to keep him beyond where we would be will to go for someone in his tier. They have infinity money. 

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2 minutes ago, IvanRenkosillegitimatechild said:

Does anyone else find it interesting AP2345 nor Herry have said anything the last 5-6 hours? Jerry isn’t as active as AP is but I absolutely could be overthinking the silence. I know Chris is with his wife so his silence is an excused silence haha

Hasn’t been much new news since this morning so I don’t see anything off with it

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I asked this about Dusty before but I'll ask again. Do you think SD would be hesitant to hire another alumn and his friend knowing there's a real possibility he'd have to fire him? The optics of firing back to back alumni wouldn't be good at all. And personally for Scott, firing a friend wouldn't be great either. Clearly there's a chance they ride off into the sunset together as well.

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Just now, rcbowla said:

I asked this about Dusty before but I'll ask again. Do you think SD would be hesitant to hire another alumn and his friend knowing there's a real possibility he'd have to fire him? The optics of firing back to back alumni wouldn't be good at all. And personally for Scott, firing a friend wouldn't be great either. Clearly there's a chance they ride off into the sunset together as well.

I doubt anyone who isn't an IU fan would think twice about firing back to back alumni. Maybe the sort of thing Purdue fans troll IU fans about. Wouldn't let that influence the decision. Really wish we just hired Dusty last offseason. 

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17 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

I guess but making a sweet 16 at a place like Virginia Tech is impressive.  Not sure when you are at a place like Virginia tech you are expected to be competing for conference titles.   A&M not really known for being a basketball powerhouse and he has done some good things there in his time.  15-3 conference record and finishing second seems impressive to me.  I get it though IU should be in a place where they can do better however from my point of view he is the exact kind of coach IU needs if the top guys say no.   College basketball grinder 

I hear you and love these conversations. 

Buzz has been coaching in a big boy conference since 2008 - almost 20 years - and, while he's had some good years/teams - he hasn't proven that he's a guy that will take us where we all want to go on a consistent basis - which is key for me - I don't want a year every 5 or 6 where we're good. I want a consistent winner. He screams Tom Crean 2.0 to me. Decent coach, high energy, fans will fall in love with him, but in the end - the results won't be good enough.

Not a bad backup option, I agree.

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3 minutes ago, mdiu28 said:

I hear you and love these conversations. 

Buzz has been coaching in a big boy conference since 2008 - almost 20 years - and, while he's had some good years/teams - he hasn't proven that he's a guy that will take us where we all want to go on a consistent basis - which is key for me - I don't want a year every 5 or 6 where we're good. I want a consistent winner. He screams Tom Crean 2.0 to me. Decent coach, high energy, fans will fall in love with him, but in the end - the results won't be good enough.

Not a bad backup option. 

A verrrry expensive Tom Crean with that buyout.

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It’s gonna be Dusty May…..

But if the 90 million talks are real…..

1. Stevens 2. Oats

Then for me:

3. McCasland
4. May
5. Lloyd
5b. Otzelberger
6. Beard
7. Golden
8. Pearl
9. Drew
10. McCollum

11. Smart

12. Few

13. Gates

14. Hoiberg/Collins

15.Cronin




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4 minutes ago, mdiu28 said:

I hear you and love these conversations. 

Buzz has been coaching in a big boy conference since 2008 - almost 20 years - and, while he's had some good years/teams - he hasn't proven that he's a guy that will take us where we all want to go. He screams Tom Crean 2.0 to me. Decent coach, high energy, fans will fall in love with him, but in the end - the results won't be good enough.

Not a bad backup option. 

You know I'm through with Buzz
Yes I'm through with Buzz,
All right, oh yeah, uh huh
He's not very funny
You know I'm through with Buzz
Yes I'm through with Buzz,
All right, oh yeah, uh huh                   Steeley Dan, 1974

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8 minutes ago, rcbowla said:

I asked this about Dusty before but I'll ask again. Do you think SD would be hesitant to hire another alumn and his friend knowing there's a real possibility he'd have to fire him? The optics of firing back to back alumni wouldn't be good at all. And personally for Scott, firing a friend wouldn't be great either. Clearly there's a chance they ride off into the sunset together as well.

No, I don't think Scott would have a problem hiring Dusty.  If he hires him, I think he believes Dusty is the best man for the job.  Dusty knows the risks, I think if he got fired,  he would understand why.  He is the anti-Woodson, thank goodness.

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1 hour ago, Hovadipo said:

Isn’t the Billy stuff what got Justin Albers ran out of the media? I feel like he was a pretty notable name in IU media at the time and the BD stuff came from him. That’s purely off of memory though so someone can correct me if I misremember. 

I don’t remember Albers role. A lot of back and forth between us and HSN board at that time. Supposedly those guys were well connected. Mile and 0708 and some others over there.

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10 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

I doubt anyone who isn't an IU fan would think twice about firing back to back alumni. Maybe the sort of thing Purdue fans troll IU fans about. Wouldn't let that influence the decision. Really wish we just hired Dusty last offseason. 

Gary Parrish calling a spade a spade and saying how stupid we were for not firing Woody last year and hiring Dusty is like the most normal national take I’ve heard. We could have had him, we should have had him, and now he’s in first place at a place with as much money as IU if not more. 

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15 minutes ago, rcbowla said:

I asked this about Dusty before but I'll ask again. Do you think SD would be hesitant to hire another alumn and his friend knowing there's a real possibility he'd have to fire him? The optics of firing back to back alumni wouldn't be good at all. And personally for Scott, firing a friend wouldn't be great either. Clearly there's a chance they ride off into the sunset together as well.

I mean Woodson isn’t mad at QB for his forced retirement so I assume if that were to happen then Scott can be forced by the board to remove Dusty 

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2 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

Gary Parrish calling a spade a spade and saying how stupid we were for not firing Woody last year and hiring Dusty is like the most normal national take I’ve heard. We could have had him, we should have had him, and now he’s in first place at a place with as much money as IU if not more. 

Not like we didn’t tell em

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2 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

Gary Parrish calling a spade a spade and saying how stupid we were for not firing Woody last year and hiring Dusty is like the most normal national take I’ve heard. We could have had him, we should have had him, and now he’s in first place at a place with as much money as IU if not more. 

What does effing Gary Parrish effing know?!

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Yeah @Hovadipo is right, I think Albert’s was Rivals staff st the time, had done the rounds at ITH and maybe 247. He reported Donovan news that no one else verified (though there was board chatter) and I think history has borne out that he was incorrect

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