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[Chris007 52,469]

15 minutes ago, BleedCubbieBlue said:

I appreciate the comment but I was really just looking for the opinions of the people that are against hiring him. I am aware of the opinions of the people who are for hiring him.

I would probably be him doing a press conference explaining why now is different and my first 3 choices said no. But would want him vetted well. Would also want to talk to McCollum

[Chris007 52,469]

12 minutes ago, IvanRenkosillegitimatechild said:

If Stevens is officially the guy, obviously a big if when do you think they would announce him?

My guess is Mid-March

[Silat Player 938]

49 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Not sure why he thought the IU job would open.  Portal was kind to IU and they were ranked to start the year.

Uh Woodson was still the coach. 

He still had to coach the talent from the portal. If anyone would realize that, it is another coach. 

That being said, I am skeptical of May leaving Michigan after one year.

[Scotty R 2,803]

I am still very skeptical that we will actually get Brad. Just say we did will he leave the Celtics right away from r stay until the end of the Celtics season. To me he would have to get started at IU right away with the portal and building his team.

[Demo 21,428]

22 minutes ago, BleedCubbieBlue said:

I appreciate the comment but I was really just looking for the opinions of the people that are against hiring him. I am aware of the opinions of the people who are for hiring him.

I’m not straight up opposed because I believe that given how buttoned up this school tends to be on things if they made a move with him it would be with due diligence down to the bone. But this is why he’s not probably top 5 for me despite being an elite coach: 1) He beat a woman. He did that. I don’t care if she refused to testify and they dropped the charges. The police report’s clear. He did it, 2) The alcohol thing is a concern. When a guy literally drinks himself blind at a Christmas fundraising event for freaking boosters, it’s not nothing. 3) The guy deflected UT questions by calling himself “the most honest guy you’ve ever met. If I say I’m not going, I’m not going.” Then he went. 4) Not saying that stuff is prohibitive on its face, but it’s not nothin’ and that stuff happened with much less scrutiny and heat than this job. Human frailty is more likely to arise under heightened scrutiny. 5) Hovadipo made the point elsewhere, and it’s a good one: If you’re Dolson and making as big a hire as you’ll ever make, are you really tieing yourself and your career to a grenade? I might be willing to overlook or talk myself most of that stuff if I thought he was just miles better than anyone else available, but I’m not sure that’s true. 

[cleeter 2,601]

I could be wrong, but I think Chris said May won’t talk to after the season is over.

So we are in agreement here.


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[KNOBYDOX 227]

14 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

In order of preference for me?

Stevens

May

McCasland

Beard

Gates

Buzz

That’s my list of six that I’d be more than happy with. I love Pearl, McDermott, and Few; but they are too old for my taste. Drew is creepy to me; something about him rubs me wrong.

What does Bill Gates know about basketball?

[HoosierAccipiter 157]

33 minutes ago, JerryYeagley23 said:

Respectfully, $92m over 10 years. 

I hope this doesn’t start a 10 page argument between you two over such semantics. 

[Bowhunter 2,880]

So I’ve thought about the coaching search a little more today. I’m still a Dusty May guy.

I appreciate the information that Our two best insiders give us. Though if the Brad Stevens numbers end up being true, I believe that’s way too much money on a guy who’s been out of college coaching for that length of time.

I believe Stevens is riskier than many of the hot college coaches we have been looking at collectively.  I think Brad was the guy to go after the first or possibly the second time around,. I too believe we crapped the bed when we had a chance at Bruce Pearl and others like him.. If he was 5-10 years younger, Pearl would still be my number 1. 
 

[Scotty R 2,803]

Just now, KNOBYDOX said:

What does Bill Gates know about basketball?

He could buy his own team without NIL

[cleeter 2,601]

I am still very skeptical that we will actually get Brad. Just say we did will he leave the Celtics right away from r stay until the end of the Celtics season. To me he would have to get started at IU right away with the portal and building his team.

NBA waiver deadline is March 1st. After that, I don’t believe darn near anything can be done. Celtics are in or facing the second apron, so not like they can do much regardless though. Soooo maybe around then.


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[OKHOOSIER 4,548]

11 minutes ago, BleedCubbieBlue said:

I appreciate the comment, but that is not really where I want this to go. I understand your position. I am trying to understand what it would take for the other side to accept him.

I will bite, as I am staunchly in the No pile for Beard. There are many reasons for this, from being a victim advocate, to having a close understanding of DV and how complicated it is to adjudicate. Not rehashing Beard or his actions beyond that. 

To accept the hire? That is difficult. I would accept it from the standpoint I as a nobody have no control and have to trust that the AD and University did a thorough job vetting. That does not mean I cannot also object morally. A lot of us kept getting called names for having that opinion and given strawman "wELL wOuLD yOu sToP RoOtInG FoR IU" questions. I can object to a hire and still root for my alma mater, both things can be true. 

I am not a choir boy. I know what the inside of Hamilton County Jail looks like, and not as a visitor. But not for violence. I would be fine with Few, and he has a DUI. Certain issues are more complicated than simply "accept the hire."  There are certain lines, that for me cannot be crossed, and DV is one of them. There may not be fire so to speak, but there was a TON of smoke.

Anyways, sorry if that is clear as mud. And that will be the last time I discuss Chris Beard beyond his coaching status. 

Cheers.

[Hoosierfanyuh 3,509]

While i figured the answer would be march that’s a long time for this restless board haha

[coonhounds 9,914]

Shouldn’t go beyond Brad and Dusty.

Let's not go past brad!

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[Scotty R 2,803]

1 minute ago, cleeter said:

NBA waiver deadline is March 1st. After that, I don’t believe darn near anything can be done. Celtics are in or facing the second apron, so not like they can do much regardless though. Soooo maybe around then.


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Being the president of the Celtics his responsibilities go beyond player personal decisions 

[DoctorP 1,585]

36 minutes ago, JerryYeagley23 said:

Respectfully, $92m over 10 years. 

 

[Scotty R 2,803]

2 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

I will bite, as I am staunchly in the No pile for Beard. There are many reasons for this, from being a victim advocate, to having a close understanding of DV and how complicated it is to adjudicate. Not rehashing Beard or his actions beyond that. 

To accept the hire? That is difficult. I would accept it from the standpoint I as a nobody have no control and have to trust that the AD and University did a thorough job vetting. That does not mean I cannot also object morally. A lot of us kept getting called names for having that opinion and given strawman "wELL wOuLD yOu sToP RoOtInG FoR IU" questions. I can object to a hire and still root for my alma mater, both things can be true. 

I am not a choir boy. I know what the inside of Hamilton County Jail looks like, and not as a visitor. But not for violence. I would be fine with Few, and he has a DUI. Certain issues are more complicated than simply "accept the hire."  There are certain lines, that for me cannot be crossed, and DV is one of them. There may not be fire so to speak, but there was a TON of smoke.

Anyways, sorry if that is clear as mud. And that will be the last time I discuss Chris Beard beyond his coaching status. 

Cheers.

Pretty much where I am at as well

[cleeter 2,601]

Being the president of the Celtics his responsibilities go beyond player personal decisions 

Well…damn. Thought I was onto something ha


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[PartyintheVillas 440]

12 minutes ago, BleedCubbieBlue said:

My bad. I am legitimately trying to understand what it would take for people to accept him at IU.

The Old Testament part of me says “screw that guy, you don’t ever lay hands on a woman.” The New Testament part of me thinks that he can’t be beyond redemption. I just want to understand what that redemption looks like.

If Beard came out and said he fu€ked up and was truly apologetic, and went to high schools to talk about how he fu€ked up and tried to turn this whole thing into a cautionary tale, would that be enough?

If he was sincere and not just doing it for a job, and he spent time in women's shelters volunteering, then yes I'm starting to believe he cares about more than himself winning basketball games.

[Ryno6284 3,418]

9 minutes ago, Demo said:

I’m not straight up opposed because I believe that given how buttoned up this school tends to be on things if they made a move with him it would be with due diligence down to the bone. But this is why he’s not probably top 5 for me despite being an elite coach: 1) He beat a woman. He did that. I don’t care if she refused to testify and they dropped the charges. The police report’s clear. He did it, 2) The alcohol thing is a concern. When a guy literally drinks himself blind at a Christmas fundraising event for freaking boosters, it’s not nothing. 3) The guy deflected UT questions by calling himself “the most honest guy you’ve ever met. If I say I’m not going, I’m not going.” Then he went. 4) Not saying that stuff is prohibitive on its face, but it’s not nothin’ and that stuff happened with much less scrutiny and heat than this job. Human frailty is more likely to arise under heightened scrutiny. 5) Hovadipo made the point elsewhere, and it’s a good one: If you’re Dolson and making as big a hire as you’ll ever make, are you really tieing yourself and your career to a grenade? I might be willing to overlook or talk myself most of that stuff if I thought he was just miles better than anyone else available, but I’m not sure that’s true. 

If I'm tying myself to the grenade, do I have control of the pin?