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[jmsgws 2,181]

1 hour ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Of course I’m mad at IU. Other programs consistently cheat their butts off and reap the rewards of it. We do things the “right” way, miss the tournament more often than we make it, and regularly get clowned by the media. IU would rather consider a guy who has made 2 tournaments in 17 seasons than the guy who has his 1 seed in the sweet 16 and has interest in the job. It’s a joke. IU makes it loud and clear that a good basketball program isn’t its top priority, which is frustrating as hell to me. All I want is for IU to be a great program again, but the administration refuses to let it happen.

I am so happy that IU would rather lose and do things the right way, than cheat and win.  If the only way IU can have a good basketball team is to hire a coach that is going to cheat and live and in the Grey area; I hope they disband basketball all together,  The University is much bigger than any sports program.  Do it right or don't do it at all.  

[8bucks 7,184]

I don’t see how anyone is really out at this point. Guys that could have been hired but have not are still very much in play but may be a 2nd, 3rd or 4th option.  

[HoosierFan1994 4,995]

6 minutes ago, 12345Brad said:

Assuming Stevens and Beard are out, I would hope it’s Muss followed by Beilein as a bridge/band-aid.  Even 5-7 years of Beilein - you know it’s a good 5-7 years.  Maybe, just maybe Moser - but just seems too risky given the fragile state of the program now. Need as close to a guarantee as possible (I realize there’s always a risk). 
 

I still don’t think the $10mm was raised just to get Stevens. I think Dolson realized the program was in neutral and the offense was not attracting recruits nationally - and ultimately the tipping point was the free agency off-season - any new coach can accelerate any rebuild by August.  
 

Sure there may have been some mutual interest from Stevens and nobody expected Texas to lose first round - but Muss is solid and Beilien wouldn’t be a horrible last resort. 

Muss plays the transfer market and I think that’s the newest trend in college basketball. 
I’m not 100% against Moser, just 75%. This just screams Archie with a better personality. They play defense but their offense is built around one player I feel. Just not sure he’s the move. 

[Hoosier2016 63]

Can’t wait to watch iu score 40 points a game if we get moser...Jeez 

[IUfan_Charlie 3,867]

I really worry about what a Moser offense would look like in the big ten. I just don’t see it. 

[Josh 13,069]

Somebody will hire Moser away from Loyola after this year.  He's certainly outgrown Loyola

[IU Scott 2,375]

7 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Did you root for the 2016 IU conference champion and sweet 16 team?

What is your point because that team never got in trouble  or put on probation or vacate wins

[8bucks 7,184]

2 minutes ago, Josh said:

Somebody will hire Moser away from Loyola after this year.  He's certainly outgrown Loyola

Yeah. Incredible how they play D. All of them move their feet like Aaron Craft. 
 

Offensive flow is not bad but they don’t seem to have any threat from outside today. 

[HoosierFan1994 4,995]

4 minutes ago, Josh said:

Somebody will hire Moser away from Loyola after this year.  He's certainly outgrown Loyola

I think they play like 5 seniors. For sure. Heard Creighton (his alma Mater) May part ways with McDermott.

[HoosierFan1994 4,995]

Just now, 8bucks said:

Yeah. Incredible how they play D. All of them move their feet like Aaron Craft. 
 

Offensive flow is not bad but they don’t seem to have any threat from outside today. 

Norris is Aaron Craft I swear. 

[Hoosierfan2017 24,156]

8 minutes ago, jmsgws said:

I am so happy that IU would rather lose and do things the right way, than cheat and win.  If the only way IU can have a good basketball team is to hire a coach that is going to cheat and live and in the Grey area; I hope they disband basketball all together,  The University is much bigger than any sports program.  Do it right or don't do it at all.  

Your worldview completely ignores the realities of big-time college basketball in the 21st century. More power to ya if you’re fine with IU being a bad basketball program, but I’m not. We don’t let our coaches recruit in the gray area. But then we also don’t hire good coaches because good coaches recruit in the gray area. So, we hire inferior coaches, handicap their recruiting, and then expect them to compete for conference and national championships. It’s comical, really. The holier than thou attitude is what has gotten us 4 tournament appearances in the past 13 seasons. 

[Brooks 85]

I think at this point its safe to say we have no idea what Dolson has in mind. I read several boards and all the " insiders" have different info. Dolson is definitely being tight lipped on this one. Guess we may not find out any real info till he is ready for it to come out. I commend him on this. Now hopefully I can give him the same props with the decision he makes for our new coach. Ill give whoever he hires the chance. 

[HoosierFan1994 4,995]

8 minutes ago, 8bucks said:

I don’t see how anyone is really out at this point. Guys that could have been hired but have not are still very much in play but may be a 2nd, 3rd or 4th option.  

That’s possible too. I’d just be a little upset if our coach has been available all along and we waited two weeks. This is the year you need a guy in place by final four weekend. I’ll wait for Stevens but I find it hard to believe they wait until June. 

[Stuhoo 86,642]

Just now, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Your worldview completely ignores the realities of big-time college basketball in the 21st century. More power to ya if you’re fine with IU being a bad basketball program, but I’m not. We don’t let our coaches recruit in the gray area. But then we also don’t hire good coaches because good coaches recruit in the gray area. So, we hire inferior coaches, handicap their recruiting, and then expect them to compete for conference and national championships. It’s comical, really. The holier than thou attitude is what has gotten us 4 tournament appearances in the past 13 seasons. 

Winning and not blatantly cheating are not mutually exclusive.

[IU Scott 2,375]

1 minute ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Your worldview completely ignores the realities of big-time college basketball in the 21st century. More power to ya if you’re fine with IU being a bad basketball program, but I’m not. We don’t let our coaches recruit in the gray area. But then we also don’t hire good coaches because good coaches recruit in the gray area. So, we hire inferior coaches, handicap their recruiting, and then expect them to compete for conference and national championships. It’s comical, really. The holier than thou attitude is what has gotten us 4 tournament appearances in the past 13 seasons. 

I get it that you haven't seen what a great IU team looks like but there is no way bringing in known cheaters will ever work at IU.  Also I rather be UVA, Villanova and UW than Duke, KU or UK

[jmsgws 2,181]

2 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Your worldview completely ignores the realities of big-time college basketball in the 21st century. More power to ya if you’re fine with IU being a bad basketball program, but I’m not. We don’t let our coaches recruit in the gray area. But then we also don’t hire good coaches because good coaches recruit in the gray area. So, we hire inferior coaches, handicap their recruiting, and then expect them to compete for conference and national championships. It’s comical, really. The holier than thou attitude is what has gotten us 4 tournament appearances in the past 13 seasons. 

If that is the reality, then IU should get rid of Basketball.  

[Hoosierfan2017 24,156]

4 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

What is your point because that team never got in trouble  or put on probation or vacate wins

I hate to break it to you, but there’s a high probability that that teams wasn’t squeaky clean.  Do you think that the McDonalds All American from New York, who Crean happened to magically land when he was on the hot seat, came here cleanly? 
 

And before Crean landed Thomas Bryant, he had a man by the name of Kenny Johnson as his head recruiter. The same Kenny Johnson who got in trouble for his actions at Louisville. IU happened to land Noah Vonleh, another McDonalds All American from the east coast, when Kenny was our lead recruiter. 
 

IU doesn’t want their coaches to play in the gray area, but I would bet that Crean did more of it than you’d think.

[HoosierFan1994 4,995]

2 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

I get it that you haven't seen what a great IU team looks like but there is no way bringing in known cheaters will ever work at IU.  Also I rather be UVA, Villanova and UW than Duke, KU or UK

I was in middle school when Indiana fired Sampson so I was upset at first but I understand now. Most of those guys were losers. Kind of hard to root for a team like that even if they are so good. I get the grey area however. I just don’t think it’s a good idea to bring in a known cheater who has guys constantly in trouble. But it sounds like Indiana preciously wanted a completely clean program. That’s just not how it is now. 

[BGleas 8,681]

In 2021 if you're running a program that wins at a consistently high level, I just assume you're either cheating (if we can even call it that anymore since the NCAA doesn't care and there are no consequences) or heavily in the gray area. And yes, that includes Villanova, UVA, MSU, etc. 

[IU Scott 2,375]

I am so embarrassed by some of this so called IU fan base who would ever think for one moment IU should blatantly cheat just to win more games.