IUc2016 Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 Good point I thought no way in heck could Marquette compete financially with facilities and basketball stuff back when Garcia was down to IU and Marquette. Then every National scout pointed out how their boosters just throw money at the program and how other basketball programs would kill for some of the stuff they have. I dug a little myself and saw their facilities and they were impressive. It will be interesting if he gets down to those 2 and it’s his choice what he ultimately does And for the record, I think it is 100% possible for Marquette to be a better job for porter moser. I hate the blanket “better job” argument that national writers like to make. It’s very subjective to each coach. That’s what I am taking issue with here Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Uspshoosier, FWHoosier84, HankTheDeuce and 1 other 4
DWB Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 If I'm a coach, a good solid coach, and I had a chance to go to IU, I could not think of a better time. We've had a dumpster fire for 4 years. We've been in decline for 20 years (with a couple of good years thrown in for kicks) Fan base is foaming at the mouth to win again, and fan expectations are far lower now, than 10 yrs ago Hard to imagine it could get much worse. Transfer portal is a real opportunity to fix the roster (at least partially) quickly Great chance to have a better year in 21-22 than 20-21. and then build from there. Would you face a lot of scrutiny under the fan base microscope? Sure. But that will happen no matter what. If you start winning, you'll be a hero. Deserthoozier, Hardwood83 and T White 3
BtownStrength Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 If we hire Oats, I'm going to buy so much Maranatha Baptist swag, I may need a new story on my house.
Unexpectedflash Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, IUCane said: Think he takes Marquette. He went to Jesuit HS I believe, currently coaches at a Jesuit school, wouldn’t HAVE to move family, could dominate the conference, has great facilities, less pressure, and can get paid. Also spent time at SLU which is another Jesuit school. Wouldn’t blame him one bit for taking Marquette over us as it seems his religion is a huge part of his life.
TheDarkKnight69 Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 Head coach in waiting is a good idea in theory, but what if in 6 years after Beilein retires, someone proven and successful wants the job? Puts you in a weird situation bird4par 1
Hoosierfan2017 Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, DWB said: If I'm a coach, a good solid coach, and I had a chance to go to IU, I could not think of a better time. We've had a dumpster fire for 4 years. We've been in decline for 20 years (with a couple of good years thrown in for kicks) Fan base is foaming at the mouth to win again, and fan expectations are far lower now, than 10 yrs ago Hard to imagine it could get much worse. Transfer portal is a real opportunity to fix the roster (at least partially) quickly Great chance to have a better year in 21-22 than 20-21. and then build from there. Would you face a lot of scrutiny under the fan base microscope? Sure. But that will happen no matter what. If you start winning, you'll be a hero. Archie set the bar so low that any coach who gets us back to the sweet 16 is going to be a god in the state of Indiana. Unexpectedflash, HoosierKnight and JHoosier914 3
Popular Post Class of '66 Old Fart Posted March 25, 2021 Popular Post Posted March 25, 2021 I often tend to post cartoons or make jokes and probably too often for some of you. But what follows is no joke and something that really does concern me. As a board, we are terribly splintered. Not just in terms of who the next coach should be but also should it be an IU guy or not. When the next coach is announced, some of us are going to be extremely disappointed and some even angry. Emotions will run high and we will have a posting frenzy. It's perfectly OK to vent frustration over the selection but let's keep it civil and not let our board go into a full attack mode against the new coach or against each other. I'm still putting my chips on Dolson to make the right decision for the long term and not just win a popularity contest from btb. AZ Hoosier, IU Scott, Hoosierfanyuh and 26 others 17 10 2
Brass Cannon Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 Just now, TheDarkKnight69 said: Head coach in waiting is a good idea in theory, but what if in 6 years after Beilein retires, someone proven and successful wants the job? Puts you in a weird situation Better to be in a weird situation than to be rudderless. Without a coach in waiting people would use his age against him in recruiting.
Unexpectedflash Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 Just now, TheDarkKnight69 said: Head coach in waiting is a good idea in theory, but what if in 6 years after Beilein retires, someone proven and successful wants the job? Puts you in a weird situation How often does a head coach in waiting work out anyways? I’m struggling to think of any examples in recent times. Izzo I think but that was before my times. If we got Beilein I’d rather him stabilize the job for 6-7 years when we’re in a good position to hire someone better if we can’t get anyone now. bird4par, TheDarkKnight69 and Hippopotamo 3
Hoosierinbham Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said: I often tend to post cartoons or make jokes and probably too often for some of you. But what follows is no joke and something that really does concern me. As a board, we are terribly splintered. Not just in terms of who the next coach should be but also should it be an IU guy or not. When the next coach is announced, some of us are going to be extremely disappointed and some even angry. Emotions will run high and we will have a posting frenzy. It's perfectly OK to vent frustration over the selection but let's keep it civil and not let our board go into a full attack mode against the new coach or against each other. I'm still putting my chips on Dolson to make the right decision for the long term and not just win a popularity contest from btb. It's always interesting to see how people respond under stress. We all want our Hoosiers to win. Gotta be ready to roll no matter who it is! IU Scott 1
RaceToTheTop Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said: I often tend to post cartoons or make jokes and probably too often for some of you. But what follows is no joke and something that really does concern me. As a board, we are terribly splintered. Not just in terms of who the next coach should be but also should it be an IU guy or not. When the next coach is announced, some of us are going to be extremely disappointed and some even angry. Emotions will run high and we will have a posting frenzy. It's perfectly OK to vent frustration over the selection but let's keep it civil and not let our board go into a full attack mode against the new coach or against each other. I'm still putting my chips on Dolson to make the right decision for the long term and not just win a popularity contest from btb. Cheers. Whoever we choose, if I like the pick, great. If I don't, I'm rooting for being wrong. rcbowla, IU Scott and Moye > Boozer 3
RaceToTheTop Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said: Better to be in a weird situation than to be rudderless. Without a coach in waiting people would use his age against him in recruiting. Coach in waiting really only works if the guy is going to quickly take over. With Painter it was a one year wait. A guy in waiting can very easily find another head coaching job if the team is doing well. And if they aren't, he might not want the job. d_wilson787 and FWHoosier84 2
Brass Cannon Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Unexpectedflash said: How often does a head coach in waiting work out anyways? I’m struggling to think of any examples in recent times. Izzo I think but that was before my times. If we got Beilein I’d rather him stabilize the job for 6-7 years when we’re in a good position to hire someone better if we can’t get anyone now. The guy who won the Big Ten the previous season was a HC in waiting.
HoosierTrav Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, Hoosierfanyuh said: Im on the muss bus so go oral roberts I’ve changed my tune on the guys who are still playing or were in the tournament. I originally wanted Beard most but now I’m thinking that Musselman is perfect for this job. lillurk, Hoosierfanyuh, bird4par and 2 others 5
Brass Cannon Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 1 minute ago, brumdog45 said: Coach in waiting really only works if the guy is going to quickly take over. With Painter it was a one year wait. A guy in waiting can very easily find another head coaching job if the team is doing well. And if they aren't, he might not want the job. Then you hire another coach in waiting or designate a current assistant. It’s more about having continuity of system and recruiting. So you don’t have to rebuild
Hoosierfan2017 Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 1 minute ago, HoosierTrav said: I’ve changed my tune on the guys who are still playing or were in the tournament. I originally wanted Beard most but now I’m thinking that Musselman is perfect for this job. Musselman has the personality for it. The IU coach is under a constant spotlight no matter who they are. Musselman seems like a guy who would enjoy that kind of attention. FWHoosier84, d_wilson787 and HoosierTrav 3
Uspshoosier Posted March 25, 2021 Posted March 25, 2021 1 minute ago, brumdog45 said: Coach in waiting really only works if the guy is going to quickly take over. With Painter it was a one year wait. A guy in waiting can very easily find another head coaching job if the team is doing well. And if they aren't, he might not want the job. Hopkins was always Cuse coach in waiting. Bohiem kept coming back so he ended up taking the Washington job. Dutcher was Fishers coach in waiting at San Diego st and that one is an example of the coach in waiting working lillurk 1
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