General Coach Candidate News

[lillurk]

8 hours ago, Chris007 said:

Musselman has a 70% winning percentage in college. I’d take that any day.

Can’t overstate how impressive he’s been. 4 years at Nevada, the last 3 are among the best in school history. Then they hired Alford and they’re mediocre again.

Arkansas has a better history than Nevada but in year 2 he has them at a level only prime Nolan Richardson and Eddie Sutton ever got.

Edited March 22, 2021 by lillurk
Eddie Sutton. I erroneously had Lon Kruger

[sirhoosierlot]

I might catch hell for it but I like this Porter Moser dude. Movement on offense and no gimmick defense. Understand why people wouldn’t like the hire though. 

[LamarCheeks]

20 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I’m sorry, but that article is terrible and most of the boxes are arbitrary. 
 

“Oh sure, I'd love it if Brad Stevens would leave the Boston Celtics, based on his track record at Butler and his state of Indiana ties, but even he doesn't check all those boxes, mostly the last two. And all the other names that get mentioned this week -- John Beilein, Rick Pitino, Chris Beard, Scott Drew -- can't check a lot of these boxes either.”

If a guy with a 35% winning percentage in the NBA and zero college coaching experience checks all your boxes but Brad Stevens, Chris Beard, Scott Drew, and John Beilein don’t, your boxes are crap. This writer picked the candidate he wanted and then made up the criteria to try to justify it.

Not only that, but two of his boxes were RMK approval and the former players' approval. Knight and the former players wouldn't approve of Stevens? That's asinine. I mean -- he's not coming, but to say Smart checks boxes Stevens doesn't is just ridiculous. The only box Smart could check that Stevens can't would be as a former player. 

[Hoosierfan2017]

4 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Musselman has a 70% winning percentage in college. I’d take that any day.

Yeah, Musselman would be a great hire. He's won 75% of his games in college and won his conference three years in a row at Nevada. @str8baller no one is hating on Woodson the person, we're hating on the idea of him as our next head coach... because it would be a bad idea. 

[DWB]

1 minute ago, sirhoosierlot said:

I might catch hell for it but I like this Porter Moser dude. Movement on offense and no gimmick defense. Understand why people wouldn’t like the hire though. 

And I suspect he doesn't have a bunch of 5* recruits on his recruiting list. Probably doesn't have a bunch of 4's either. 

Sure knows how to motivate kids though.

[str8baller]

9 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Musselman has a 70% winning percentage in college. I’d take that any day.

Musselman was run out of the NBA. Not a deal killer but something to look into. And he has one 20 win season in a P5 conf. 
 

His record at Nevada is nice, but its MM success. Alford was .750 at New Mexico. Shaka .740 at VCU. So on and so forth.  
 

Not a bad candidate, but it’s essentially betting on a MM darling again. 

[DWB]

I just hope the new contract for the next coach has some incentives built into it, rather than a huge guaranteed salary, as it's been in the past.

Example:

$1-3 mil a year salary. +$250k for Big Ten championship, +$250k for Sweet 16, $500k for FF, and $1M for NCC

[lillurk]

2 minutes ago, str8baller said:

Musselman was run out of the NBA. Not a deal killer but something to look into. And he has one 20 win season in a P5 conf. 
 

His record at Nevada is nice, but its MM success. Alford was .750 at New Mexico. Shaka .740 at VCU. So on and so forth.  
 

Not a bad candidate, but it’s essentially betting on a MM darling again. 

It’s a lot different to hire a coach who gets programs quickly to or near their historic peak WITH good underlying advanced metrics than it is to hire a guy with one Elite 8 and middling metrics

[lillurk]

12 minutes ago, sirhoosierlot said:

I might catch hell for it but I like this Porter Moser dude. Movement on offense and no gimmick defense. Understand why people wouldn’t like the hire though. 

I feel this. They run good offense and they have better guys than you’d ever expect at ULC. Same was true when they went to the F4. I worry about the rest of his resume. 

[NCHoosier]

The Smart article was not posted as a position of support from me as a HC. Only to show that every person is looking for something different. All of our opinions are “arbitrary” as it relates to this search. There is no guarantee with hiring a new HC. The winners that came before this current search did not pan out and RMK went 11-13 in his last year before moving to Bloomington.

I personally don’t think we need a former IU player leading the team, but another coach on the bench would certainly be great (Lewis and Smart are at the top of my list).

None of us are SD, but we should trust that he is every bit of the fan that we all are and then some. He’s going to make the hire that he feels is best for the program and we all need to support that decision. I’m confident that whomever he hires will outperform Archie (low bar) and embrace the Bloomington bubble.



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[Chris007]

1 minute ago, lillurk said:

I feel this. They run good offense and they have better guys than you’d ever expect at ULC. Same was true when they went to the F4. I worry about the rest of his resume. 

Can he recruit at IU or against the big boys is my only concern. Love his style though 

[lillurk]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

Can he recruit at IU or against the big boys is my only concern. Love his style though 

Yeah good question. If you can pair high level recruiting with his eye for talent and scheme you can really get humming.

[DWB]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

Can he recruit at IU or against the big boys is my only concern. Love his style though 

Appears there's not a whole lot wrong with his recruiting right now. Taking a B1G #1 seed to the woodshed in the 1st half. Game's not over, but it's going to be closer than many of us thought I bet.

 

[NCHoosier]

Musselman was run out of the NBA. Not a deal killer but something to look into. And he has one 20 win season in a P5 conf. 
 
His record at Nevada is nice, but its MM success. Alford was .750 at New Mexico. Shaka .740 at VCU. So on and so forth.  
 
Not a bad candidate, but it’s essentially betting on a MM darling again. 

Hard to argue with the level of competition he has coached against in CBB prior to his Arkansas gig, but an NBA record is not indicative of the success a coach can have at the collegiate level.


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[MemphisHoosier]

3 minutes ago, str8baller said:

Musselman was run out of the NBA. Not a deal killer but something to look into. And he has one 20 win season in a P5 conf. 
 

His record at Nevada is nice, but its MM success. Alford was .750 at New Mexico. Shaka .740 at VCU. So on and so forth.  
 

Not a bad candidate, but it’s essentially betting on a MM darling again. 

In one of the podcasts this week, sorry there have been too many to credit correctly, I believe Ryan Phillips compared Muss to Jim Harbaugh's tenure at Stanford and with the Niners.  He mentioned that he produces immediate results, but has a grating personality that will run its course over time.  Again this was one perspective, but I thought I could see it holding meriting based on some of Muss's television antics e.g. 'squeeze Colgate', shirts off, etc.

[Stuhoo]

3 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Can he recruit at IU or against the big boys is my only concern. Love his style though 

He’s recruiting players that are good enough to be up nine at the half against the best team in the B1G ... in the tournament.

That’s kinda good, right?

 

[sirhoosierlot]

1 minute ago, lillurk said:

I feel this. They run good offense and they have better guys than you’d ever expect at ULC. Same was true when they went to the F4. I worry about the rest of his resume. 

yeah that's why i'm leery of him too, but i don't have a real baseline of his previous tenures. Looks like everywhere, except Illinois State his teams have improved every year. 

[Trish]

Scott is a smart man. If I'm getting Crean vibes from him then Scott is getting those too.

Wining is cool, yeah. But if we wanted to win and go dancing then we never should've fired Crean.

Just be mediocre. I think Mussleman would make us mediocre. Arkansas fans wanted his head on a spike last year and this year and they are okay with him. If they advance pass the Sweet 16, expect a contract extension from my knowledge. 

Arkansas does enjoy their basketball. They won't just let Mussleman walk away. 

 

[coonhounds]

He’s recruiting players that are good enough to be up nine at the half against the best team in the B1G ... in the tournament.
That’s kinda good, right?
 

I think what may be overlooked is he has his kids playing well in this game. I believe getting your kids up for the ncaa single elimination game is good but to be elite night in night out and competing in the big 10 you need more talented kids. Just my opinion

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[Stuhoo]

2 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

I think what may be overlooked is he has his kids playing well in this game. I believe getting your kids up for the ncaa single elimination game is good but to be elite night in night out and competing in the big 10 you need more talented kids. Just my opinion

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How about 36 hours ago when they beat a mid level ACC team. How about a couple years ago when they went to the Final Four?

It’s more than one game without question.