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[IUHAHN81 2,191]

I'm confident as hell Beilein would get us winning again but man, he's just not the situation I want. I just can't get excited about it. 

[go iu bb 6,199]

5 minutes ago, goonaha said:

Beilein buzz picking up on Peegs. Hopefully that chatter is a smokescreen. Would be very disappointing. 

Of the names being thrown around, he's pretty low on the list of those I want. So I agree that he would be disappointing.

He's very old so only a short term solution. System coach who has taken several years at each stop to have consistently good teams. He's not coaching now and that likely won't change between now and the end of the NCAAT when other coaches will be available, so no reason to rush hiring him. Then there's his comments at Cleveland which may affect recruiting.

There's at least 5 others I'd want before him.

[southsidehoosier 5,044]

1 minute ago, goonaha said:

Only Snow dismissed the press conference. Rabjohns didn't comment on it, and actually kind of let Snow get skewered by the masses for it lol. 

I didn’t know that. I thought Peegs dismissed it on Monday morning.

[Hoosierfan2017 21,513]

51 minutes ago, cappymo14 said:

Not a fan of this fellow, mostly because I find him to be a poor writer with a mediocre mastery of the English language, and a serious need for a proof reader but, I figure he has this right....

 

https://www.si.com/college/indiana/basketball/boston-celtics-brad-stevens-says-not-interesting-indiana-job?fbclid=IwAR0HfMVXYGlhxCw39FgxquVr9Q9Sraa8bn9RHylTauw5Qe9udgriPAxiheU

 

 

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How does this guy say the coach must check these boxes, include “established head coach experience,” and then say Keith Smart is the guy for the job? His only head coaching experience is four years in the NBA, and his winning percentage was 35.4% during those four seasons. If we were picking a guy to put in a time machine and come to Indiana as an 18 year old recruit he’d be a great option. But as a coach? Ehh... 

[LamarCheeks 19,106]

Bears fans (I am one) were swinging for the fences and hoping to somehow get Russell Wilson.

Instead ... Andy Dalton. 

I'm hoping that as IU fans, our swing for the fences (Brad Stevens) doesn't result in a three-pitch strikeout like this one! 
 

 

[LamarCheeks 19,106]

6 minutes ago, IUHAHN81 said:

I'm confident as hell Beilein would get us winning again but man, he's just not the situation I want. I just can't get excited about it. 

I run hot and cold on Beilein. Some days, I think he'd be a good get and others, I worry we'd just end up with what Minnesota got in Tubby Smith. 

[IUCrazy2 2,430]

13 minutes ago, goonaha said:

Beilein buzz picking up on Peegs. Hopefully that chatter is a smokescreen. Would be very disappointing. 

I have followed that site for over 20 years, they never have the scuttlebutt on things like this until the very end in my experience.  If they are saying Beilein, then he probably won't be it.

[IUHAHN81 2,191]

Scott has to know John Beilein isn't getting the majority of the fan base fired up right? I mean bringing in a 68 year old isn't exactly bringing the IU brand into the future. Does his age play a role ultimately? I'd hafta think so. 

[madmax 442]

I could see Beilein being really good... but I could also see it going very poorly. If it were to take him 3-4 years to rebuild us he would be 72 years old or so. Not many coaches continue into their mid 70's and so I think its reasonable to expect that he would bring in a top assistant(be it Fife, Cheaney, Smart, whoever) as the head coach in waiting. But what happens if Beilein isn't as successful as we would hope? Does the top assstiant still get the job? Or do we look elsewhere yet again?

I don't know, but if it were my money, I would much prefer someone like Beard, Drew, Musselman, or Oats who we could expect would stay for a long time if successful. Every time we change coaches its a gamble despite how much of a "sure thing" the hire is(as we have seen over the last 4 years). Hiring Beilein means hiring another coach within the next decade which is just more increased risk.

[Stuhoo 81,204]

 

If he were successful it would still, best case scenario, mean that we would have another coaching search five years from now.

I'm under the impression that Scott Dolson 'gets it', and Beilein does not seem like someone who would fit the bill.

 

[HoosierAloha 30,068]

Calm people, the process is Beilein for a handful of years then a transition to Stevens.  John is only getting things rolling before he turns things over to the chosen one!

[Stuhoo 81,204]

Just now, HoosierAloha said:

Calm people, the process is Beilein for a handful of years then a transition to Stevens.  John is only getting things rolling before he turns things over to the chosen one!

 

To quote Aloha...

**** no.

 

[LamarCheeks 19,106]

49 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

How does this guy say the coach must check these boxes, include “established head coach experience,” and then say Keith Smart is the guy for the job? His only head coaching experience is four years in the NBA, and his winning percentage was 35.4% during those four seasons. If we were picking a guy to put in a time machine and come to Indiana as an 18 year old recruit he’d be a great option. But as a coach? Ehh... 

The thing that flummoxed me was he said even Brad Stevens wouldn't check the last two boxes on his arbitrary list. The last two were RMK's approval and approval of former IU players. If IU were to hire Stevens (admittedly, a long shot), I would think both RMK and former IU players would be fully on board. 

[Ryno6284 2,690]

Did I just go through the Twilight Zone?  Was in a different thread and got to this one about 20 pages behind!  Did someone merge 2 threads?

[iubb 2,558]

Just now, Ryno6284 said:

Did I just go through the Twilight Zone?  Was in a different thread and got to this one about 20 pages behind!  Did someone merge 2 threads?

MAGIC

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1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

 

If he were successful it would still, best case scenario, mean that we would have another coaching search five years from now.

I'm under the impression that Scott Dolson 'gets it', and Beilein does not seem like someone who would fit the bill.

 

Exactly. Obviously there’s at least some mutual interest on both sides (to varying degrees depending which side you’re sitting on I’m sure). 

If Dolson gets it, how could he ever think that a hiring plan contingent upon another coaching transition is in the best interest for the program, players & fans.
 

That’s entirely too much succession risk. Doesn’t matter if he was hand groomed. 

[Ryno6284 2,690]

1 minute ago, iubb said:

MAGIC

Use some of that and get Mr. Stevens here please!

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14 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

Bears fans (I am one) were swinging for the fences and hoping to somehow get Russell Wilson.

Instead ... Andy Dalton. 

I'm hoping that as IU fans, our swing for the fences (Brad Stevens) doesn't result in a three-pitch strikeout like this one! 
 

 

Steeler fan here.....we're gonna start having some challenges in the foreseeable future as well with Big Ben retiring here in a few years.

[Uspshoosier 45,904]

For those that are cold on Beilein just keep in mind if he is your floor for a coach then that’s a pretty good floor.    I get that age is a big factor but not even 4 years ago he was getting talked about as one of the best coaches in the game at that time especially offensively.   Hamilton for FSU just signed an 4 extension and he is 72.  
 

IU needs a person that can change the culture and get it back on track to be a winning program.  While not ideal for some people on here I will just point out the following 

The last 2 years he coached in college he went 

1. 33-8 (13-5) and lost in the national title game 

2. 30-7 (15-5) and lost in the sweet 16

iu has had 1 30 win season in the last 27 years. (92-93).  
 

of course he isn’t the long term answer but he just might change culture enough in his short years to make it more attractive for the next guy and he is such an excellent coach in my opinion he could win big.  A great coach failing at something like he did in the NBA would make me think he would bust it at wherever he is at to prove how good of coach he is 

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