HoosierCoop Posted March 3, 2021 Posted March 3, 2021 I was going to suggest McDermott until the latest article of controversy came out. HoosierTrav 1
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted March 3, 2021 Posted March 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, Chris007 said: OK here are my notes from last night. I like to talk to people on game nights, they seem to have some cocktails and loosen up some. Let me say all of this is hearsay, as I said people drinking and talking so we'll see but it's from people I do trust. First off the athletic department is down 40 million this year, not sure if that number is correct or not but I do know we are down a lot of money. Some trustees and staff are getting cold feet being down 40 million and then buying out 10 million then paying another coach. All during COVID when you asked people to take pay cuts. But I think this is where both Archie and IU agree to part ways. But there is a study going on in the athletic dept trying to figure out if it would cost more to keep him than it would buy him out. Attendance, merchandise, concession, donations everything like that. Feelers have been put out and the interest is not that great. Beilein wants to spend time with family, Matta is he healthy? Current coaches haven't shown much interest. Swing for the fences, offer Brad 7 million a year. Well, the athletic department is down lots of money, buyout, then pay someone that much. Going to be hard to get trustees, President, and anyone else to agree to that. Then we come to Dane, from the IU family, can recruit, wouldn't cost an arm and leg, and might have your guy for the next 30 years. I think it might be time to start tracking flights. If we hire Fife... The program is done. WayneFleekHoosier and Stuhoo 1 1
bigrod Posted March 3, 2021 Posted March 3, 2021 Personally, I'd really like to get Beard. I realize he may want nothing to do with it, but at least reach out to him. I just don't think Fife is ready for the IU job. I liked the idea of bringing in someone like Beilein and Fife as an assistant to take over in a few years. That seems unlikely, but it would be a decent plan. Not a fan of Drew. I think we would just be asking to potentially set the program back to a place from which it may never recover. I do think Musselman could work. I'm afraid we may end up taking whoever is willing and hoping we struck gold. Sad days... thebigweave 1
VO5 Posted March 3, 2021 Posted March 3, 2021 It’s going to be Fife isn’t it. Perfect time to start finding other hobbies I guess. Never thought in my entire life this is what would happen to the program I love. IU basketball will never ever be what it once was. bigrod, Loaded Chicken Sandwich and Hoosierfan2017 2 1
Trish Posted March 3, 2021 Posted March 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, Chris007 said: OK here are my notes from last night. I like to talk to people on game nights, they seem to have some cocktails and loosen up some. Let me say all of this is hearsay, as I said people drinking and talking so we'll see but it's from people I do trust. First off the athletic department is down 40 million this year, not sure if that number is correct or not but I do know we are down a lot of money. Some trustees and staff are getting cold feet being down 40 million and then buying out 10 million then paying another coach. All during COVID when you asked people to take pay cuts. But I think this is where both Archie and IU agree to part ways. But there is a study going on in the athletic dept trying to figure out if it would cost more to keep him than it would buy him out. Attendance, merchandise, concession, donations everything like that. Feelers have been put out and the interest is not that great. Beilein wants to spend time with family, Matta is he healthy? Current coaches haven't shown much interest. Swing for the fences, offer Brad 7 million a year. Well, the athletic department is down lots of money, buyout, then pay someone that much. Going to be hard to get trustees, President, and anyone else to agree to that. Then we come to Dane, from the IU family, can recruit, wouldn't cost an arm and leg, and might have your guy for the next 30 years. I think it might be time to start tracking flights. Good stuff, Chris! Sending Buffalouis to your office for lunch. I honestly believe there won't be much interest in this job. Indiana is down BAD right now. We're not the same. We have dated facilities. Kid's don't know anything about Indiana Basketball (outside of Hoosiers) and probably wouldn't have a clue to who Bobby Knight is. Are we really going to pay the most in college basketball? Archie is barley Top-20 in pay right now. We're in a REALLY bad position right now and this next hire will make or break Indiana Basketball. I think Fife is our guy. thebigweave 1
Chris007 Posted March 3, 2021 Posted March 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Treesh said: Good stuff, Chris! Sending Buffalouis to your office for lunch. I honestly believe there won't be much interest in this job. Indiana is down BAD right now. We're not the same. We have dated facilities. Kid's don't know anything about Indiana Basketball (outside of Hoosiers) and probably wouldn't have a clue to who Bobby Knight is. Are we really going to pay the most in college basketball? Archie is barley Top-20 in pay right now. We're in a REALLY bad position right now and this next hire will make or break Indiana Basketball. I think Fife is our guy. 100% we are just not in a good spot. Can't keep Archie, but really don't have the money to get rid of him, but apathy is setting in so have to do something, so what can we do. In the podcast yesterday I took from it that Scott doesn't want apathy for the program, he's afraid we're losing fans. Dane is an IU guy, wants the job, and is cheap Trish, thebigweave, HoosierDYT and 1 other 4
Popular Post Trish Posted March 3, 2021 Popular Post Posted March 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chris007 said: 100% we are just not in a good spot. Can't keep Archie, but really don't have the money to get rid of him, but apathy is setting in so have to do something, so what can we do. In the podcast yesterday I took from it that Scott doesn't want apathy for the program, he's afraid we're losing fans. Dane is an IU guy, wants the job, and is cheap It makes total sense. Dane Fife is the right IU guy for the job. He took over a D1 program at the age of 25. I was coaching middle school basketball at age 25 and this guy --- Dane Fife, is recruiting and coaching at a D1! He increased his wins each year at IPFW. He had offers to join CTC's staff and John Belien's staff at Michigan. He's been a huge recruiting tool at MSU for the past ten years. He's played in a National Championship game. He's played under a HoF'er, Bob Knight. He's learning from a HoF'er in Tom Izzo. He knows the B1G inside and outside. If we're going to hire someone young, cheap, and has ties to Indiana... It needs to be Dane Fife! IUc2016, Chris007, lillurk and 7 others 9 1
kreigh8 Posted March 3, 2021 Posted March 3, 2021 Fife might not be the home run we all want, but Allen has proved, to me at least, building a culture can overcome whatever deficiencies there might be with coaching knowledge or in a program's infrastructure. If Allen can turn around a dormant, or nonexistent, IU football program with his LEO philosophy, I'm totally onboard with giving Fife a chance if no one else wants the job and Fife wants it. IU basketball is a different animal than IU football I'll admit, but honestly what is the culture that is Archie Miller's IU basketball? I'm not sure I have an answer to that one. Just my take though. Make Brad Stevens say no, which I fully expect he would, then go after Fife Trish, thebigweave, Ryno6284 and 1 other 4
lillurk Posted March 3, 2021 Posted March 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, Chris007 said: 100% we are just not in a good spot. Can't keep Archie, but really don't have the money to get rid of him, but apathy is setting in so have to do something, so what can we do. In the podcast yesterday I took from it that Scott doesn't want apathy for the program, he's afraid we're losing fans. Dane is an IU guy, wants the job, and is cheap Thanks for the updates. The kneejerk anti-Fife reaction is confusing to me. If he wants the job, he’s a good recruiter, he’s learned from a great coach...I get wanting a “proven” guy but that’s not realistic right now. As I’ve said, you hire a coach for his future. Fife’s might not be as obviously excellent as, oh, Stevens, but a high level of success is one possibility with Fife. Also...almost anything would be better than a lame duck year next year. Jeff_Boy_Ardee, taco corp, Chris007 and 2 others 5
8bucks Posted March 3, 2021 Posted March 3, 2021 8 minutes ago, Chris007 said: 100% we are just not in a good spot. Can't keep Archie, but really don't have the money to get rid of him, but apathy is setting in so have to do something, so what can we do. In the podcast yesterday I took from it that Scott doesn't want apathy for the program, he's afraid we're losing fans. Dane is an IU guy, wants the job, and is cheap Not that i want him but is it safe to say then that Alford is not in the plans at all thebigweave 1
Chris007 Posted March 3, 2021 Posted March 3, 2021 Just now, 8bucks said: Not that i want him but is it safe to say then that Alford is not in the plans at all I have not heard his name mentioned. I think with his career record, being fired from two P5 schools, not being a good human imo and being close with Dolson makes him not a candidate. thebigweave, Stuhoo and lillurk 2 1
OldBuddy67 Posted March 3, 2021 Posted March 3, 2021 13 minutes ago, Chris007 said: 100% we are just not in a good spot. Can't keep Archie, but really don't have the money to get rid of him, but apathy is setting in so have to do something, so what can we do. In the podcast yesterday I took from it that Scott doesn't want apathy for the program, he's afraid we're losing fans. Dane is an IU guy, wants the job, and is cheap Dane definitely wants the job? Has he been reached out to? Ryno6284 1
GaryP Posted March 3, 2021 Posted March 3, 2021 I have not heard his name mentioned. I think with his career record, being fired from two P5 schools, not being a good human imo and being close with Dolson makes him not a candidate. Whatever IU does,I hope it happens quickly before players decide to jump ship. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app Class of '66 Old Fart and Josh 2
Chris007 Posted March 3, 2021 Posted March 3, 2021 Just now, OldBuddy67 said: Dane definitely wants the job? Has he been reached out to? He said earlier this year on the Hoosier Hysterics podcast that 3 jobs he would take for sure would be IU, Michigan, Michigan State. I have no idea if he has been reached out to or not. We're going to be staying with him all next week in Indy so plenty of time to have talks with him. OldBuddy67, HoosierDYT, thebigweave and 3 others 6
8bucks Posted March 3, 2021 Posted March 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, Chris007 said: I have not heard his name mentioned. I think with his career record, being fired from two P5 schools, not being a good human imo and being close with Dolson makes him not a candidate. Plus every time we play at Iowa it will be ugly and I am sure the school does not want to get that attention.
Chris007 Posted March 3, 2021 Posted March 3, 2021 1 minute ago, GaryP said: Whatever IU does,I hope it happens quickly before players decide to jump ship. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app I'm not sure there are any players I'm worried about jumping ship. I want Franklin, Rob, Race to stay, Maybe Lander, Trey. Also a lot of these players would have to have a school that wants them. Some it might be a smaller school. lillurk 1
Trish Posted March 3, 2021 Posted March 3, 2021 Another reason why Dane Fife is the right IU guy for the job? - RECRUITING CONNECTIONS! We're talking about an assistant coach at big time program that knows damn near every assistant coach in the Power-5 and more. Why is this good? Well if Dane is hired, he can recruit some top assistant coaches to Indiana. We could potentially have a staff with great assistant coaches who are very skilled in recruiting. We need the talent!
GaryP Posted March 3, 2021 Posted March 3, 2021 I'm not sure there are any players I'm worried about jumping ship. I want Franklin, Rob, Race to stay, Maybe Lander, Trey. Also a lot of these players would have to have a school that wants them. Some it might be a smaller school.I think a smaller school could be what a kid or two might need. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app Chris007 1
8bucks Posted March 3, 2021 Posted March 3, 2021 8 minutes ago, Chris007 said: He said earlier this year on the Hoosier Hysterics podcast that 3 jobs he would take for sure would be IU, Michigan, Michigan State. I have no idea if he has been reached out to or not. We're going to be staying with him all next week in Indy so plenty of time to have talks with him. Anyone have a link to this podcast? I found one of him on in 2019 so that may be it
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted March 3, 2021 Posted March 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Treesh said: Another reason why Dane Fife is the right IU guy for the job? - RECRUITING CONNECTIONS! We're talking about an assistant coach at big time program that knows damn near every assistant coach in the Power-5 and more. Why is this good? Well if Dane is hired, he can recruit some top assistant coaches to Indiana. We could potentially have a staff with great assistant coaches who are very skilled in recruiting. We need the talent! Maybe even cover up some sexual assaults. Never know what you'll get right? Box of chocolates anyone?
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