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This should go without saying obviously, but there will be no press conference tomorrow. I’ll be able to take the lid off a bit later in the week. But will say this, anybody providing details right no

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So I couldn’t get much from him unfortunately. But, to me that’s a good thing. There’s been pretty much zero chatter, nor leaks for a month about coaches. He said it doesn’t matter that the season is

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20 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Just stop with that crap.

I have been skeptical of McCollum’s D1 inexperience too, but I also realize that every Hall of Fame coach started out inexperienced and no two coaches are alike. McCollum is clearly no guarantee, but for better or worse he’s not Archie.

My worry of McCollum.  In his entire basketball career, playing and coaching, Drake is the biggest school/program he has been around in his lifetime.  It's not like he played or was an assistant for a high major and got to see what it's like running a program of that magnitude.  That's my major concern.  

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My worry of McCollum.  In his entire basketball career, playing and coaching, Drake is the biggest school/program he has been around in his lifetime.  It's not like he played or was an assistant for a high major and got to see what it's like running a program of that magnitude.  That's my major concern.  

Mine as well. He wins there's no doubt. But we've gone the up and comer route and they've all proven unable to handle being the head coach at Indiana. It's a risk and we have to stop that ****. Hire a proven winner who's been at big boy programs for the majority of their careers.

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1 minute ago, mdiu28 said:

Mine as well. He wins there's no doubt. But we've gone the up and comer route and they've all proven unable to handle being the head coach at Indiana. It's a risk and we have to stop that ****. Hire a proven winner who's been at big boy programs for the majority of their careers.

That sounds great in theory but how many coaches are out there that fit that criteria and are willing to leave. Just because Archie didn’t work out doesn’t mean you shouldn’t take another swing at an up and comer

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I think IU needs a brilliant tactician. Someone with a solid system and philosophy

They don't have to be a Calipari bull **** artist to get recruits in today's game with NIL and revenue share. And honestly whoever is the coach we need to hire a GM to help with the portal.

I would say anyone who takes the job and puts in the hard work immediately has an edge instate recruiting. The other aspect is personality and engagement with fans that's expected at a place like IU. I think as long as they can do that they don't have to be a big name or win the press conference. 

Which why if we strike out on the top names, and Beard isn't touchable,a McCollum hire might make a lot of sense. Yes it's a big risk but it can have a ton of upside. 

 

 

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27 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Just stop with that crap.

I have been skeptical of McCollum’s D1 inexperience too, but I also realize that every Hall of Fame coach started out inexperienced and no two coaches are alike. McCollum is clearly no guarantee, but for better or worse he’s not Archie.

Exactly. Where do people get the Archie had amazing resume? He won conference outright once and tied for first another time. He won less than 70 percent of his games at Dayton. McCollum has won 82 percent of his games over 15 years. Won his conference 11 times and won national title 4 times. Yea it was D2 but if it so easy how come everyone doesn’t do it. The guy knows how to win ball games plain and simple. And he’s capable of adjusting. 

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1 minute ago, Unexpectedflash said:

That sounds great in theory but how many coaches are out there that fit that criteria and are willing to leave. Just because Archie didn’t work out doesn’t mean you shouldn’t take another swing at an up and comer

Chris Beard (I know, let's not make this an argument), Chris Collins (go ahead and tell me he's mediocre. Was at Duke forever and guess what? No one wins at Northwestern), Will Wade, Buzz Williams, Mick Cronin, Greg McDermott. Give me any one of those guys over McCollum and I'm not crazy about any of those guys. 

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8 minutes ago, IUBtown said:

My worry of McCollum.  In his entire basketball career, playing and coaching, Drake is the biggest school/program he has been around in his lifetime.  It's not like he played or was an assistant for a high major and got to see what it's like running a program of that magnitude.  That's my major concern.  

This is true, but all he’s done is win 90% of his games with the move up. 
 

If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck…

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I understand the recent history—it’s hard even for a blue blood to hire a sitting P5 coach. (Let’s not forget that Texas did it by hiring Beard.)


The optimist’s take is NIL and revenue sharing have changed the rules. 
 

The pessimist’s take is that they haven’t changed the rules that much—and also that Dolson has a fetish for experience and older coaches.
 

This is what worries me the most: if he’s always been set on a “veteran” head coach and misses on the good ones, he might just hire a Brownell because it matches his “criteria” or something. And that is also what makes Goodman’s tweet so concerning. The more good established coaches say no, the higher the odds Dolson will stubbornly hire a mediocre established coach. 

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Chris Beard (I know, let's not make this an argument), Chris Collins (go ahead and tell me he's mediocre. Was at Duke forever and guess what? No one wins at Northwestern), Will Wade, Buzz Williams, Mick Cronin, Greg McDermott. Give me any one of those guys over McCollum and I'm not crazy about any of those guys. 

The only one of those likely to leave are Will wade and beard and sure I’d take them over McCollum but there’s obviously other factors involved. Saying you’d rather have Collins who has 37% conference win percentage over McCollum seems silly but that’s just one guys opinion

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I’m not even the biggest McCollum fan. Right now he has zero committed recruits. I know people bring up he’s winning with D2 players but those D2 players have been in his system for a long time. We’ve yet to see him have to recruit and replace players at this level. Despite that id still take him over Collin or brownell. Those two have shown they’re mediocre at this level 

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2 minutes ago, IUHAHN81 said:

We all know BS is my 1st choice but im not gonna lie, I like what he says there A LOT! To me that's what IU was under Bob. Tough, good character kids. Anyway, I really like his mindset in that clip. 

If it ain’t Steven’s then sign me up for McCollum. 

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3 minutes ago, Shoes_N_Shorts said:

This is true, but all he’s done is win 90% of his games with the move up. 
 

If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck…

(not a Dana Altman reference)

I dunno he's made one move up, after 14years in D2.  Drake to Indiana is a lot bigger than NE Missouri st to Drake. 

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