NCAA MBB Transfer Portal

[Henryville Hoosier]

[Stuhoo]

9 minutes ago, Henryville Hoosier said:

Ohhhhhh buddy.

[RaceToTheTop]

From the same Twitter account.  It’s not a huge one — 8300 followers — but still.

 

 

[Stuhoo]

29 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

The portal gets you mentally strong 22 year olds, who will regularly kick the crap out of 18/19 year olds.

Such as Chris Ledlum.

15 minutes ago, Henryville Hoosier said:

 

[Tasmanian Devil]

3 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

From the same Twitter account.  It’s not a huge one — 8300 followers — but still.

 

 

Does he hav anything to say regarding Dalton Knecht?? :) ;)

[OliviaPope40]

My dad and I were talking about this last night but me our troubles started long before Sampson when the university thought holding Knight to a zero tolerance policy was going to work which it didn't had Knight not done what he did with Neil Reid he would've gotten to pick the next coach instead of letting the university decide it for him and the program would've been different than where we are now. I just don't know how different things would've been either had Sampson did what he did forget the argument that what he did is now legal that to me is beside the point and Dakich likely doesn't get a chance to coach. We also had the whole bumper sticker issue too which we also reported.

[JSHoosier]

1 minute ago, OliviaPope40 said:

My dad and I were talking about this last night but me our troubles started long before Sampson when the university thought holding Knight to a zero tolerance policy was going to work which it didn't had Knight not done what he did with Neil Reid he would've gotten to pick the next coach instead of letting the university decide it for him and the program would've been different than where we are now. I just don't know how different things would've been either had Sampson did what he did forget the argument that what he did is now legal that to me is beside the point and Dakich likely doesn't get a chance to coach. We also had the whole bumper sticker issue too which we also reported.

If RMK picked the next coach we may have ended up with Pat Knight coaching....

[MikeRoberts]

46 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

The portal won’t get you studs like TJD.  Those guys go pro when they want to leave, whether after 1-4 years.  

I hear you but Oscar to UK was kinda on that level

[OliviaPope40]

[go iu bb]

40 minutes ago, OliviaPope40 said:

My dad and I were talking about this last night but me our troubles started long before Sampson when the university thought holding Knight to a zero tolerance policy was going to work which it didn't had Knight not done what he did with Neil Reid he would've gotten to pick the next coach instead of letting the university decide it for him and the program would've been different than where we are now. I just don't know how different things would've been either had Sampson did what he did forget the argument that what he did is now legal that to me is beside the point and Dakich likely doesn't get a chance to coach. We also had the whole bumper sticker issue too which we also reported.

The zero tolerance policy worked exactly as the the administration wanted it to. They wanted Knight gone but were too cowardly to outright fire him so they made that policy so they could claim that it was with cause.

[lillurk]

1 minute ago, Schreckbagger said:

Ward?

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Ware, gotta be an autocorrect issue

[RaceToTheTop]

1 minute ago, Schreckbagger said:

Ward?

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Typo.  Ware.

[Honkyman]

1 hour ago, cthomas said:

The upside is experience, maturity, performance record, and greatly reduced time expenditure.

People complained about the one-and-done system. The transfer portal is very similar. You might land players who stay for more than one year. But the highly rated ones like Ware are looking for a school that can help them get to the NBA in one year.

[lillurk]

3 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

I highly suggest everyone listen to Eric’s Twitter spaces from last night. A great window into the thought process of the staff on recruiting.

Also mentioned we don’t really lead for the ‘24s. The way things went with Bates has caused some pause in the staffs recruitment of freshman in his opinion vs the pro/con of getting transfer guys. It’s interesting. No one really knows the best strategy right now but our staff appears to be leaning transfer portal.


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This all makes sense — haven’t listened but thanks for summarizing. Just a couple thoughts:

1. Bates is a strange poster child for this, though I’m sure there are other examples in the minds of the staff. Even someone like Sensabaugh — pretty quick recruitment, they were pretty early, and he was good enough to be one and done…but so bad on defense that he didn’t contribute much to winning.  Back to Bates: they didn’t invest a ton of time, and it’s not like they had years of scouting and relationship. I’m sure they did due diligence, but a late riser who played on a national prep team…it’s not insane to me that he’d have the first two years he had, especially given the changes in his personal life

2. There’s some irony in leaning towards transfers because of the variety of frustrations of recruiting high schoolers, and then going for Ware, who exemplifies some of those things well. To be clear, I think he’ll succeed at IU.

3. Probably preaching to the choir but I think going forward, it’ll be rare for a high major program to go ALL IN on either frosh or transfers — there will always be TJD types, JHS types, Hulls, Cupps, Galloway, Haralson, Sisley types, and so on. There are years, like after coaching changes, where you’re heavy on transfers. There will be years that are the opposite.

[lillurk]

Do you know who would’ve benefited from the current state of the transfer portal while he was coaching at IU?

Tom Crean.

[Brass Cannon]

5 minutes ago, lillurk said:

Do you know who would’ve benefited from the current state of the transfer portal while he was coaching at IU?

Tom Crean.

I doubt it. He would have everybody good transfer out each year. Then have to replace the whole team 

[go iu bb]

2 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

I doubt it. He would have everybody good transfer out each year. Then have to replace the whole team 

Like when he was at Georgia.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

On 3/20/2023 at 7:17 PM, RaceToTheTop said:

Keshon Gilbert, UNLV.  Sophomore last year, averaged 11.4 points, 3.8 rebounds, and 3.2 assists.  Shot 44/38/78.  

Commits to Iowa State.

[Brass Cannon]

1 minute ago, go iu bb said:

Like when he was at Georgia.

Yep.  Honestly though as bad as he had it after IU I think Archie will have it worse.  On the off chance he does develop a player. A coach with an actual personality is just going to poach them 

[lillurk]

13 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

I doubt it. He would have everybody good transfer out each year. Then have to replace the whole team 

 

10 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

Like when he was at Georgia.

Ok, “all other things being equal” he would’ve benefitted from it.