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[Josh]

49 minutes ago, Dave from Dayton said:

Prove it. All these rumors.

Send me some pictures of the hot chicks.

I clicked on them but it turns out they want money to view their pictures!  Weird.

[Josh]

34 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

So true.

Ware might not start at IU. Ledlum would start and lead the team.

This is hard for me to believe.  Not because I think Ware is incredible as a player, but because there are certainly coaches out there that would promise him a starting spot.  

If Woody convinced him to commit while telling him he's a backup then Woody is the closer of closers.

[GloryDays]

38 minutes ago, btownqb said:

Nothing. I'm getting ready to smoke some meatballs for spaghetti tonight for the family. What you're doing seems like a very normal Saturday for me lol 

Not to get scolded for being off topic I have a leg of lamb in now.

That's it mods.

[Stuhoo]

8 minutes ago, Josh said:

This is hard for me to believe.  Not because I think Ware is incredible as a player, but because there are certainly coaches out there that would promise him a starting spot.  

If Woody convinced him to commit while telling him he's a backup then Woody is the closer of closers.

I am sure that no starting slot promises have been made to anyone. The only guaranteed starter for next year is a healthy Xavier Johnson.

Woody: “Again, son, I can see you having a major, major role in our total team effort. Because you are special. But you have to earn it. And you’re gonna have to take a ton of sh!t from Coach Woodson.”

Or: “Son; what do you think your potential is as a Hoosier? Starting and scoring big? Well alright then, but again, you’re gonna have to earn it.”

[Dave from Dayton]

11 minutes ago, Josh said:

This is hard for me to believe.  Not because I think Ware is incredible as a player, but because there are certainly coaches out there that would promise him a starting spot.  

If Woody convinced him to commit while telling him he's a backup then Woody is the closer of closers.

We all can envision the discussion.  Woody: You've got the tools.  We've got the strength and conditioning coach.  Look at what TJD did in his growth.  He was kind of quiet.  At the end he was flaming and leading.  Ware:  I don't know.  Maybe...   Woody:  It's up to you Kel'el...do you want it enough?  I can help you but you have to do it yourself.  You have to work at it.  Ware:  What about girls?  Woody:  Well, Josh says they are hot.  And IU will get you an NIL so you can share those pictures with Josh and get some tats and a head band.  Ware:  I'm all in!

[GloryDays]

37 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Sometimes you are just who you are. But team fit, usage, style of play are all factors in figuring out what you can become plus the dreaded eye test. IMO, it’s obvious Bates can hit shots, just not at IU. Will that follow him forever? Maybe. But he played at a level in HS and AAU to be considered a borderline 5 star. The reality is he’s probably somewhere between where he was ranked and what Indiana fans think of him. The same way the NBA tries to draft on potential, these transfer rankings factor in that as well.

Take Kel Ware for example. Stats arent good. But you watch the film and see what he could become. It’s always a bit of a gamble but it’s the whole Ceiling vs Floor debate and the Moneyball debate. Do you take the proven guy with a limited ceiling or the potential that’s unproven. I believe some of these rankings try to factor those aspects into it. But yes, you are right, they are kind of a crapshoot with some semblance of common sense merit.

Lol. Long story, long.


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I always thought Tamar's shot was flat.When he missed it nearly always hit the back of the rim.With the shooters on this staff you would have thought they could have worked some air under it but it never happened.Hate it didn't work out for him.Wares shot already looks better.

[IUFAN1976]

12 hours ago, go iu bb said:

EMU is literally Bates' home town university. Kennesaw State is in Georgia and Ware is from Arkansas.

Georgia is closer to Arkansas than Indiana is, I know, only 2 or 3 hours but that is an extra 4-6 hours his parents don’t have to drive to watch him play

[Trish]

13 hours ago, Chris007 said:

You know you’re my ride or die when it comes to coaching changes. :-)

Coaching searches are the best, no one can tell me otherwise. Considering we haven’t made an Elite 8 in 22 years, there hasn’t been much fun lately lol

[Josh]

15 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

I am sure that no starting slot promises have been made to anyone. The only guaranteed starter for next year is a healthy Xavier Johnson.

Woody: “Again, son, I can see you having a major, major role in our total team effort. Because you are special. But you have to earn it. And you’re gonna have to take a ton of sh!t from Coach Woodson.”

Or: “Son; what do you think your potential is as a Hoosier? Starting and scoring big? Well alright then, but again, you’re gonna have to earn it.”

I'm sure that's what he's saying, but I'm just as sure there are coaches telling him he could come in and be "the guy".  Major props to Woody imo

[MikeRoberts]

What would be the reason to not announce the commitment of it truly happened and he canceled his other visits?

 

it seems unlikely,

[RaceToTheTop]

35 minutes ago, btownqb said:

Do you think Tamar could avg anywhere CLOSE to 15p 5a 3r in a power 6 conf? 

I'd be willing to bet Tamars quality of shot, on average, dwarfed Primos. 

For a team that won one conference game?  
 

also think you are putting a lot of stock into calling the ratings a joke based on Bates’ rating.

[CSP]

4 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

For a team that won one conference game?  
 

also think you are putting a lot of stock into calling the ratings a joke based on Bates’ rating.

That was one example, as mentioned. I also mentioned Ware was poorly ranked. And Ledlum, and Sparks. And ... Reeves, he's too high. 

Bates only? Nahhhh 

You didnt answer the question, though.  

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

What would be the reason to not announce the commitment of it truly happened and he canceled his other visits?
 
it seems unlikely,

Maybe waiting on the Ledlum visit to end and they can announce together?

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[RaceToTheTop]

6 minutes ago, btownqb said:

That was one example, as mentioned. I also mentioned Ware was poorly ranked. And Ledlum, and Sparks. And ... Reeves, he's too high. 

Bates only? Nahhhh 

You didnt answer the question, though.  

If Bates would average 16 points at Georgetown?  I don’t know, probably not.  But he certainly would have gotten a lot of shots there.  But averaging 16 points at a team as bad as Gtown really isn’t that impressive to me, especially when he was a low efficiency player.

you can look at on3’s ratings.  They agree with you that reeves’ ratings is too high by 247.  Ledlum is 38, so about the same spot.  Bates is 72..,.Spears is 78.

[lillurk]

30 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

What would be the reason to not announce the commitment of it truly happened and he canceled his other visits?

 

it seems unlikely,

 

10 minutes ago, woodenshoemanHoosierfan said:

Maybe waiting on the Ledlum visit to end and they can announce together?

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Also you’ll get wayyyyy more media traction on a regular week day than a holiday weekend. The program AND players want to be in the news.

[Dhop]

3 hours ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Personally, I can't put a lot of faith into a Twitter account with 189 followers.  Hope it's true.  Want it to be true.  But until there's confirmation from what I consider to be reliable sources it's just noise.

Sure he only has 189 followers, but he had 208 views!

[BottomLine]

7 hours ago, JSHoosier said:

The NCAA didn't; IU self reported and self sanctioned, the NCAA laughed said okay then laughed at our stupidity after getting off the phone.

All the crap the NCAA let's slide, they couldn't care less about phone calls, it's even legal now.

I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.  I want to win, but if we have to cheat to win, I'd rather not win.

[AZ Hoosier]

That's what everyone said when Samson started making phone calls that were not permitted.  They were only phone calls, right?   Everyone else does it.  The NCAA will never catch us.  Level the playing field, right.  What is a little cheating when it comes to winning championships.  No I do not jest.  IU has always tried to run a clean program and do things the right way.  The NIL and transfer portal are new and there are always cheaters out there.  Some won't be caught.  Some will.  Want to take the chance and run a dirty program?  Not me.  I have some pride in my school.

To be completely transparent here, Sampson screwed the pooch... but the NCAA did NOT "catch us"... we self-reported and fell on our sword... and Clappy was the (apparent) answer to all of our woes.

This is a totally different situation with different (read "quality") people.

[JSHoosier]

3 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

To be completely transparent here, Sampson screwed the pooch... but the NCAA did NOT "catch us"... we self-reported and fell on our sword... and Clappy was the (apparent) answer to all of our woes.

Thesis a totally different situation with different (read "quality") people.

Exactly.  We turned ourselves in, the NCAA just laughed at our stupidity.

And may have had to verify that there was in fact a rule on too many phone calls, then laughed again because we turned ourselves in for that.

[AZ Hoosier]

1 hour ago, Woodson1980 said:

Not to get scolded for being off topic I have a leg of lamb in now.

That's it mods.

Just one? Does it cause you to limp? :D

Put my brisket on about midnight last night.