NCAA MBB Transfer Portal

[LamarCheeks]

7 hours ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Stop speculating on Doughty.   Not in the cards.

But he got an offer from Ball State -- he could very well be in the Cards. 

[str8baller]

18 minutes ago, hoosierbgh said:

Reneau wasn't that far behind Race, a 5th year senior, by the end of the year in being able to guard 4s and other perimeter players this past season as a freshman. It is reasonable that he will improve in this area next season. 

How often do we play Miami or a Murray type player exactly? IMO, we're recruiting Ledlum/Battle in part for those situations. It will be nice to have more speed available to play at the 4 if/when we need it but we're not likely to need it all that often. Most of the time we will need size, both to get through the B1G and in case of injury. 

Reneau is serviceable at the 5 but he is a 4. I doubt he was recruited to IU to be pigeonholed into the 5 exclusively and it might be slightly important for Woody to stick to his word where Reneau is concerned. 

 

I don’t really think most people think of players in the traditional 1-5 positions, and it seems most coaches don’t either anymore (although I’m sure some do). The reason for that is largely because of what you’re kind of telling me here on 4 vs 5. Practically there’s no difference between the two besides name and perceived size.  Same with 2 vs 3. 
 

There’s really only perimeter players and post players, with the caveat that you need a primary ballhandler as one of your perimeters.   
 

So the question is whether you are going to play with 2 post players or 1. If Reneau is under the impression that he is a “4” or in essence a post player (because that is what he is) who is always playing with another post player (a “5”), then fine. But IU fans can put away their dreams for the next three years of playing 4out/1in with a bunch of athletic, switchable wings. Because that isn’t happening unless Reneau is going to be the single post (or if he leaves).  
 

It also doesn’t make sense for Woody to drop hints about wanting to play another style, either. I honestly don’t care one way or another. I wasn’t as bothered by playing through TJD nearly as much as some.  
 

But I am sort of pushing the discussion here regarding the perception many people think we’ll play next year—admittedly fueled by some of Woodys comments—versus how we seem to be recruiting the portal. I think it’s interesting given our targets. 

[CSP]

36 minutes ago, Rico said:

This is true, but I think we got a good look at some of his deficiencies.

His deficiencies were as good as Race's strengths by the end. 

[hoosierbgh]

1 minute ago, str8baller said:

I don’t really think most people think of players in the traditional 1-5 positions, and it seems most coaches don’t either anymore (although I’m sure some do). The reason for that is largely because of what you’re kind of telling me here on 4 vs 5. Practically there’s no difference between the two besides name and perceived size.  Same with 2 vs 3. 
 

There’s really only perimeter players and post players, with the caveat that you need a primary ballhandler as one of your perimeters.   
 

So the question is whether you are going to play with 2 post players or 1. If Reneau is under the impression that he is a “4” or in essence a post player (because that is what he is) who is always playing with another post player (a “5”), then fine. But IU fans can put away their dreams for the next three years of playing 4out/1in with a bunch of athletic, switchable wings. Because that isn’t happening unless Reneau is going to be the single post (or if he leaves).  
 

It also doesn’t make sense for Woody to drop hints about wanting to play another style, either. I honestly don’t care one way or another. I wasn’t as bothered by playing through TJD nearly as much as some.  
 

But I am sort of pushing the discussion here regarding the perception many people think we’ll play next year—admittedly fueled by some of Woodys comments—versus how we seem to be recruiting the portal. I think it’s interesting given our targets. 

I think you touched upon an important distinction here. I don't recall ever hearing Woody promote playing 4 out 1 in. Modern basketball, definitely. Position less basketball, sure. The 4 out 1 in is, IMO, a product of the fans more than Woody. The only comments I have seen from Woody about playing a different style, were about not being post focused on offense. 

I think what we will see from Woody will vary some by personnel but will typically consist of 1-3 on the perimeter, a 5 in the post but not the focus of the offense normally, and a 4 as a hybrid that spends time on the perimeter and in the post depending on the situation/play and their strengths/skill set. 

 

[J34]

48 minutes ago, hoosierbgh said:

Reneau wasn't that far behind Race, a 5th year senior, by the end of the year in being able to guard 4s and other perimeter players this past season as a freshman. It is reasonable that he will improve in this area next season. 

How often do we play Miami or a Murray type player exactly? IMO, we're recruiting Ledlum/Battle in part for those situations. It will be nice to have more speed available to play at the 4 if/when we need it but we're not likely to need it all that often. Most of the time we will need size, both to get through the B1G and in case of injury. 

Reneau is serviceable at the 5 but he is a 4. I doubt he was recruited to IU to be pigeonholed into the 5 exclusively and it might be slightly important for Woody to stick to his word where Reneau is concerned. 

 

Woody might try to turn Reneau into a version of a Julius Randle

[CSP]

8 minutes ago, J34 said:

Woody might try to turn Reneau into a version of a Julius Randle

Ha! I think you're right, but that might actually be more of Clif Marshalls job! 

Just my thoughts, I think Malik is way skilled... gotta work on his body. 

[RaceToTheTop]

Andre Curbelo in the portal again.

[Hoosierfan1901]

Just now, RaceToTheTop said:

Andre Curbelo in the portal again.

3rd times a charm, am I right?

[Uspshoosier]

22 minutes ago, Hardwood83 said:

So about that, I thought a player only got 1 immediate transfer? Does a coaching change make a difference? 

No it doesn’t make a difference he will have to get a waiver or sit out a year.  

[monskisprodigy]

53 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Andre Curbelo in the portal again.

I remember his freshman year thinking he was going to torment us for years to come. 

The kid is skilled, no doubt. 

[Golfman25]

4 hours ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Yes he did.

Does that confirm the info?  

[RaceToTheTop]

52 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

No it doesn’t make a difference he will have to get a waiver or sit out a year.  

Unless he earned his degree in three years, I believe, then he qualifies as a grad transfer.  

[Uspshoosier]

1 minute ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Unless he earned his degree in three years, I believe, then he qualifies as a grad transfer.  

Yeah I just assumed during his Illinois days that bad concussion he had that he wasn’t concentrating enough on school to put himself in position to graduate in 3 years.  

[CSP]

49 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Yeah I just assumed during his Illinois days that bad concussion he had that he wasn’t concentrating enough on school to put himself in position to graduate in 3 years.  

Probably but.. kids now are also bringing more credits with them to college than ever before with Dual credits.  

I also thought a fair amount of times guys would take a class or two over the summer? 

[RaceToTheTop]

3 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Yeah I just assumed during his Illinois days that bad concussion he had that he wasn’t concentrating enough on school to put himself in position to graduate in 3 years.  

Yeah, but not sure the guys who take the tests for players suffer from their concussions.  :)

[Hoosierfanyuh]

Soooo with the dead period we probably won’t hear any new news til after the weekend?

[JSHoosier]

21 minutes ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

Soooo with the dead period we probably won’t hear any new news til after the weekend?

After Tuesday, the dead period ends April 4.  

[Hoosierfan1901]

Going to get spicy soon (I go back and forth between the IU boards btw)

[dwtaylor1055]

15 minutes ago, Hoosierfan1901 said:

Going to get spicy soon (I go back and forth between the IU boards btw)

Who is adding some spice to IU?

[Hoosierfan1901]

2 minutes ago, dwtaylor1055 said:

Who is adding some spice to IU?

Ivan Renko Jr, but it sounds like something is churning up pretty quick