JSHoosier Posted December 25, 2019 Posted December 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Hovadipo said: Anthony Thompson is on the committee, so not exactly true. Missed that, my mistake. At least their is some voice for the money makers. My confidence in this process just went from none to negligible. Quote
southernindianahoosier2 Posted December 25, 2019 Author Posted December 25, 2019 Sure sounds like IU is going to the next level huh... Be careful what you wish for when their boss thinks they are doing a great job.... Hell here is his bio. What screams Athletic Director? Sounds more like a marketing director or project manager. Scott Dolson has served as Deputy Director of Athletics since 2009, after spending seven years as the Director of the Varsity Club. He oversees all internal and external operations within the department including marketing, media relations, ticketing, game management, broadcast services, strategic partnerships and fundraising. Dolson also supervises facilities and business operations, academics, compliance and is the sport administrator for Men’s Basketball. Under Dolson’s stewardship, Indiana Athletics renegotiated a new 10-year multimedia rights agreement with Learfield Sports, and dramatically increased student and general attendance at both Football and Men’s Basketball games. New football attendance records were set in 2012 and due to his leadership, Indiana has seen an almost 9% increase in public season tickets sold since the 2014 season. In men’s basketball, IU has sold more student season tickets (15,500) than any other program in the country in 2013-14 and has enjoyed five consecutive season of top ten attendance in the country. Since 2008, Dolson has also ushered in an era of expansion with the construction of new state-of-the-art facilities. Most recently – the renovation of Simon Skjodt Assembly Hall in 2016, the construction of the Excellence Academy South Endzone of Memorial Stadium in 2018 and the addition of Wilkinson Hall, the new multi-purpose indoor arena that will serve as the home for the volleyball and wrestling teams, in 2018. Prior facility upgrades include the transformation of Memorial Stadium into a horseshoe layout; a 25,000-square foot strength and conditioning center (Jay and Nancy Wilkinson Performance Center); a 25,800-square foot academic center (D. Ames Shuel Academic Center); the Henke Hall of Champions, a banquet and entertaining space celebrating achievements in IU Athletics; a new basketball practice facility with museum space to celebrate the tradition of basketball (Cook Hall and Pfau-Shine Legacy Court); and new baseball (Bart Kaufman Field) and softball (Andy Mohr Field) stadiums highlighted with indoor hitting cages, locker rooms, suites and clubhouses. In addition to his role as Deputy Director of Athletics, Dolson has maintained his leadership as the fourth director of the Varsity Club managing the athletic department’s overall fundraising program for scholarships, annual giving, endowments and athletic facilities. Dolson leads the capital campaign efforts for the department. Currently, IU Athletics is aggressively fundraising as part of the university’s For All: The Indiana University Bicentennial Campaign to raise $2.5 billion. The current bicentennial campaign has an aggressive fundraising goal of $170 million to benefit capital projects and student-athlete scholarships. The campaign concludes December 31, 2019 and building projects in the current effort include Simon Skjodt Assembly Hall, Excellence Academy in the South Endzone of Memorial Stadium, Indoor Arena, IU Golf Course redesign, Armstrong Stadium and IU Football renovations. Dolson also led the department’s first comprehensive campaign. The five-year, “For the Glory of Old IU” campaign, which was completed in 2011, raised $93 million against an $80 million development goal. He also helped secure the two largest gifts in the history of IU Athletics, a $40 million gift from Cindy Simon Skjodt and a $15 million gift from Bill and Gayle Cook. Dolson was also instrumental in securing two $10 million gifts from Larry and Lucie Glaubinger in support of the Glaubinger Athletic Endowment Fund. Under his leadership, the IU Varsity Club set a new annual giving record in 2016-2017, raising $12.6 million for student-athlete scholarships. The Michigan City, Indiana, native graduated from Indiana with a bachelor’s degree in Management from the School of Public & Environmental Affairs. While doing his undergraduate work, Dolson was a student manager for the Indiana Basketball program for four seasons, serving as the program’s head manager in 1988. Following graduation in 1988, he worked for Tim Knight Enterprises before joining the joining the Varsity Club staff in December of 1989. Dolson and his wife, Heidi, who works as a Special Events Manager at the IU Alumni Association, have five children: Luke, Sam and Zach Wisen, and Kristen and Nick Dolson. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Honestly, what has he done that every other athletic department hasn’t done in the last 10 years?Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted December 25, 2019 Posted December 25, 2019 Anthony Thompson is on the committee, so not exactly true. Doesn’t really change anything. How much voice will he have? Does he even know what we need? And why AT? Allen should have been the one and only guy on that committee with a voice for football and there isn’t an excuse he’s not on there. And you don’t have to have Archie on there, but holy crap the amount of ex players you have to pick from and you pick zero? That’s a 100% and complete failure of the university. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Hovadipo Posted December 25, 2019 Posted December 25, 2019 9 hours ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said: Doesn’t really change anything. How much voice will he have? Does he even know what we need? And why AT? Allen should have been the one and only guy on that committee with a voice for football and there isn’t an excuse he’s not on there. And you don’t have to have Archie on there, but holy crap the amount of ex players you have to pick from and you pick zero? That’s a 100% and complete failure of the university. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app I don’t disagree about basketball, but AT is football’s direct line to the admin so I’m not sure how you can question him knowing what football needs. It’s his entire job. Class of '66 Old Fart, johnsoniu, mamasa and 3 others 6 Quote
LamarCheeks Posted December 25, 2019 Posted December 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Hovadipo said: I don’t disagree about basketball, but AT is football’s direct line to the admin so I’m not sure how you can question him knowing what football needs. It’s his entire job. Plus, he's the best to ever put on an IU football uniform. I would hope that would carry at least a little bit of weight ... cthomas and HoosierHoops1 2 Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted December 25, 2019 Posted December 25, 2019 I don’t disagree about basketball, but AT is football’s direct line to the admin so I’m not sure how you can question him knowing what football needs. It’s his entire job. And Tom Allen is the man over the entire program that’s gotten it to where it is. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Hovadipo Posted December 25, 2019 Posted December 25, 2019 3 hours ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said: And Tom Allen is the man over the entire program that’s gotten it to where it is. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app ...who talks to AT every week if not every day about different aspects of the state of the program. You can argue this as much as you want, you won’t get far. mamasa and thebigweave 2 Quote
AKHoosier Posted December 25, 2019 Posted December 25, 2019 It just seems like the university cares more about making everyone happy rather than committing to winning in the two big revenue sports. That's why they're giving everyone a seat at the table. Quote
MikeRoberts Posted December 25, 2019 Posted December 25, 2019 It just seems like the university cares more about making everyone happy rather than committing to winning in the two big revenue sports. That's why they're giving everyone a seat at the table.I don’t think it’s a matter of making everyone happy, they are firmly focused on compliance and they don’t have much to worry about with the non-football/non-basketball sports.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Old Friend Posted December 25, 2019 Posted December 25, 2019 6 hours ago, AKHoosier said: It just seems like the university cares more about making everyone happy rather than committing to winning in the two big revenue sports. That's why they're giving everyone a seat at the table. This ^^^ I have said this many times : Indiana University went a different direction when they fired Bob Knight. Before then when people like Ralph Floyd and John Ryan stepped down. To the academes of the world, Indiana University shall be defined by their schools and not by their sports teams. Myles Brand was an academe. Michael McRobbie is an academe. Mitch Daniels is a business man first. A lawyer second. An academic proponent yes, but he also understands and subscribes to the absolute truth that sports and sports programs are the world's best window into their universities. Michael McRobbie does not. Myles Brand did not. I know as a 100% fact that Rick Pitino pro-actively called Indiana twice regarding the basketball job, requesting to be interviewed both times. Once in 2000 when Knight was fired and once in 2006 when Mike Davis stepped down. Both times, he was told no thank you, and the reason given was Indiana didn't want to hire someone else bigger than the program and didn't want basketball to be the face of Indiana University. That's fact and as solid a source on my end as there is. But...here's the good news. Cindy Simon-Skjodt is on the committee. Her name is on the basketball arena. Anyone think she doesn't want a top shelf AD? Anthony Thompson is as invested as any former player in football and his legacy at Indiana only improves with program success. Anyone think he doesn't want a top shelf AD? Teri Moren has it rolling with her program. Men's basketball may not be represented (and I won't speculate; but agree with everyone upset that it's not), but basketball is. Anyone think she doesn't want a top shelf AD? Todd Yeagley is on the committee. Anyone think he doesn't want a top shelf AD? Kurt Zorn and Mattie White scare me, and the committee is chaired by Carrie Docherty, who's the associate dean of the school for public health - an academe - scares me to death. But good athletic voices will be heard. It does seem ridiculous that the top 2 revenue sports aren't represented, but I do have a little faith they'll get it right. My man is Chris Reynolds. https://bradleybraves.com/staff-directory/chris-reynolds/203 Walking Boot of Doom, hoosierfan6157, coonhounds and 3 others 6 Quote
MikeRoberts Posted December 25, 2019 Posted December 25, 2019 6 hours ago, Old Friend said: This ^^^ I have said this many times : Indiana University went a different direction when they fired Bob Knight. Before then when people like Ralph Floyd and John Ryan stepped down. To the academes of the world, Indiana University shall be defined by their schools and not by their sports teams. Myles Brand was an academe. Michael McRobbie is an academe. Mitch Daniels is a business man first. A lawyer second. An academic proponent yes, but he also understands and subscribes to the absolute truth that sports and sports programs are the world's best window into their universities. Michael McRobbie does not. Myles Brand did not. I know as a 100% fact that Rick Pitino pro-actively called Indiana twice regarding the basketball job, requesting to be interviewed both times. Once in 2000 when Knight was fired and once in 2006 when Mike Davis stepped down. Both times, he was told no thank you, and the reason given was Indiana didn't want to hire someone else bigger than the program and didn't want basketball to be the face of Indiana University. That's fact and as solid a source on my end as there is. But...here's the good news. Cindy Simon-Skjodt is on the committee. Her name is on the basketball arena. Anyone think she doesn't want a top shelf AD? Anthony Thompson is as invested as any former player in football and his legacy at Indiana only improves with program success. Anyone think he doesn't want a top shelf AD? Teri Moren has it rolling with her program. Men's basketball may not be represented (and I won't speculate; but agree with everyone upset that it's not), but basketball is. Anyone think she doesn't want a top shelf AD? Todd Yeagley is on the committee. Anyone think he doesn't want a top shelf AD? Kurt Zorn and Mattie White scare me, and the committee is chaired by Carrie Docherty, who's the associate dean of the school for public health - an academe - scares me to death. But good athletic voices will be heard. It does seem ridiculous that the top 2 revenue sports aren't represented, but I do have a little faith they'll get it right. My man is Chris Reynolds. https://bradleybraves.com/staff-directory/chris-reynolds/203 My man is Chris Reynolds too because I know he would never do anything to hurt the basketball program. So, I agree with what you typed but I do know as a fact that many of those people you listed want Dolson. So what in your opinion/experience does that mean for Football and Basketball because those non money making coaches are pulling for him Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Old Friend Posted December 25, 2019 Posted December 25, 2019 29 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said: My man is Chris Reynolds too because I know he would never do anything to hurt the basketball program. So, I agree with what you typed but I do know as a fact that many of those people you listed want Dolson. So what in your opinion/experience does that mean for Football and Basketball because those non money making coaches are pulling for him Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app That part I didn't know. I would imagine the revenue sports were left off for a reason. Maybe Glass' "one team" BS is going to carry over? It would be just like Indiana to do that. That said, I know Scott. He is a good man and an IU guy. He was a student manager when IU won the title in 1987, so I assume he gets it as much as anyone. He has also been an admin in the men's basketball program, so I think he understands that program and it's magnitude. Whether or not he is qualified to do the necessary contract negotiations is another question. I know him to be a good fund raiser, a good relationships guy, and someone alums could trust has their university's best interests at heart. I happen to think Reynolds is all of the things Dolson is and more qualified, but I would guess the non-revenue coaches see him (Dolson) as one of them. An ace in the hole for me is Cindy Simon-Skjodt. $45 million buys you some credential; and with her name on the building, I'd think she would want a former player. I don't know that to be true, but it would make sense to me. southsidehoosier, thebigweave and MikeRoberts 3 Quote
JSHoosier Posted December 26, 2019 Posted December 26, 2019 I'd love to see Reynolds get it but I just don't see that happening. MikeRoberts 1 Quote
MikeRoberts Posted December 27, 2019 Posted December 27, 2019 That part I didn't know. I would imagine the revenue sports were left off for a reason. Maybe Glass' "one team" BS is going to carry over? It would be just like Indiana to do that. That said, I know Scott. He is a good man and an IU guy. He was a student manager when IU won the title in 1987, so I assume he gets it as much as anyone. He has also been an admin in the men's basketball program, so I think he understands that program and it's magnitude. Whether or not he is qualified to do the necessary contract negotiations is another question. I know him to be a good fund raiser, a good relationships guy, and someone alums could trust has their university's best interests at heart. I happen to think Reynolds is all of the things Dolson is and more qualified, but I would guess the non-revenue coaches see him (Dolson) as one of them. An ace in the hole for me is Cindy Simon-Skjodt. $45 million buys you some credential; and with her name on the building, I'd think she would want a former player. I don't know that to be true, but it would make sense to me.Something else I heard from this coach/committee person in a different conversation that you reminded me of when reading your comments about Pitino:You likely know this but I didn’t, Knight, not only was “bigger than the athletic department/the school” from the outside perspective but also in his own mind too.He was verbally abusive to others in the athletic department and lived by his own rules which were essentially none. The AD would call an all coaches meeting and he would be the only one missing.So while I hate the fact that the school and administrators went sooooo far in the opposite direction and in doing so kind of destroyed the basketball program, I do see how they felt they had dealt with this before and didn’t want to repeat it again with the likes of PitinoSent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app HoosierAloha, mdn82 and 8bucks 3 Quote
coonhounds Posted December 27, 2019 Posted December 27, 2019 Something else I heard from this coach/committee person in a different conversation that you reminded me of when reading your comments about Pitino:You likely know this but I didn’t, Knight, not only was “bigger than the athletic department/the school” from the outside perspective but also in his own mind too.He was verbally abusive to others in the athletic department and lived by his own rules which were essentially none. The AD would call an all coaches meeting and he would be the only one missing.So while I hate the fact that the school and administrators went sooooo far in the opposite direction and in doing so kind of destroyed the basketball program, I do see how they felt they had dealt with this before and didn’t want to repeat it again with the likes of PitinoSent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appThe general didn't take orders from anyone at iu? Crazy talk lol. Just kidding Sent from my SM-G960U using BtownBanners mobile app MikeRoberts and HoosierAloha 2 Quote
Popular Post Old Friend Posted December 27, 2019 Popular Post Posted December 27, 2019 2 hours ago, MikeRoberts said: Something else I heard from this coach/committee person in a different conversation that you reminded me of when reading your comments about Pitino: You likely know this but I didn’t, Knight, not only was “bigger than the athletic department/the school” from the outside perspective but also in his own mind too. He was verbally abusive to others in the athletic department and lived by his own rules which were essentially none. The AD would call an all coaches meeting and he would be the only one missing. So while I hate the fact that the school and administrators went sooooo far in the opposite direction and in doing so kind of destroyed the basketball program, I do see how they felt they had dealt with this before and didn’t want to repeat it again with the likes of Pitino Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Yep. All of that's true. Knight's favorite song has always been "My Way," by Frank Sinatra. He could do it his way while he was winning, and he had friends "inside." Dr. Ryan and Knight were close, and Ralph Floyd was about as ornery as Knight was. The downfall for Knight came when coaches like Doc Counsilman and Jerry Yeagley began to discuss and plan their retirements. The old guard was stepping down or gone, replaced by Tom Ehrlich (who actually was good for Knight for a while), Myles Brand, Clarence Doninger, etc. Knight's world changed quickly, and he was no longer able to do what he always had. Never one to adopt the herding limits of others, he played by his own rules and I think always believed he was right. The reasons why IU is where it is are numerous and this is most definitely one of them. thebigweave, MikeRoberts, 8bucks and 5 others 8 Quote
southernindianahoosier2 Posted December 30, 2019 Author Posted December 30, 2019 This basketball season will be Fred’s parting gift! Good riddance.His legacy may be 8 missed tournaments in 12 years. He is retiring thinking gems a hero. He’s a villain in my eyes. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Iugradman 1 Quote
Iugradman Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 Ok, so I will vent in here instead of the game thread. Allen is a terrible in game coach. Fred Glass knows nothing about sports and was in no position to make this hire without conducting a thorough search. And don’t get me started on Archie Miller. Quote
MoyeNeeded Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Iugradman said: Ok, so I will vent in here instead of the game thread. Allen is a terrible in game coach. Fred Glass knows nothing about sports and was in no position to make this hire without conducting a thorough search. And don’t get me started on Archie Miller. So when will you be retiring? thebigweave and mamasa 2 Quote
southernindianahoosier2 Posted January 3, 2020 Author Posted January 3, 2020 Ok, so I will vent in here instead of the game thread. Allen is a terrible in game coach. Fred Glass knows nothing about sports and was in no position to make this hire without conducting a thorough search. And don’t get me started on Archie Miller.While I agree with you on Fred Glass, I thought Allen did an okay job putting the team in a position to win. We make the PaT or field goal and it’s a different ball game. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
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