(2020) PF/C - Dawson Garcia to Minnesota

[KzooHoosier82]

Just now, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

So is Sam Story all that reliable?  I see his name periodically mentioned on btb and I'm a lurker on another board that seems to think he walks on water when it comes to IU recruiting.  He tweeted this an hour ago.

Sam Story @Samueltstory

#IUBB - UNA film review done today. - Garcia gang to finally sit & talk to figure some stuff out on weekend.  DG is NOT going to MINNY or MEM.  Well sourced. - IU rotation = better athletes + more options vs. last year - Way more identity + belief. -  My summer predictions = IU

He’s incredibly unreliable, getting far more absolutely wrong than right (in 3+ years I haven’t seen him get anything right but someone who pays more attention might beg to differ). Both him and the other HSN “insider” make bold yet vague comments and usually back out of them. Sam also has a history of deleting his posts so people can’t quote him when he’s dead wrong. 

Personally I find them, and their mob following, incredibly annoying and is most of the reason I don’t post over there anymore. You’ll never learn anything from them that isn’t printed in an interview or quoted from Rabjohns and the rest of their “intel” almost always proves false and/or irrelevant. 

[GloryDays]

14 minutes ago, KzooHoosier82 said:

He’s incredibly unreliable, getting far more absolutely wrong than right (in 3+ years I haven’t seen him get anything right but someone who pays more attention might beg to differ). Both him and the other HSN “insider” make bold yet vague comments and usually back out of them. Sam also has a history of deleting his posts so people can’t quote him when he’s dead wrong. 

Personally I find them, and their mob following, incredibly annoying and is most of the reason I don’t post over there anymore. You’ll never learn anything from them that isn’t printed in an interview or quoted from Rabjohns and the rest of their “intel” almost always proves false and/or irrelevant. 

What a buzz kill!☹️

[Walking Boot of Doom]

4 minutes ago, Woodson1980 said:

What a buzz kill!☹️

Let me cheer you up by reminding you that Dawson Garcia is a lock and will commit to the Marching Archies on November 20th. 

[GloryDays]

Hopefully he and his parents are watching and realise what's being built here and are smart enough to know that without a complete gift from Purdue Marquette loses last night's game badly.

 WoJo's coaching was nonexistent at worse and atrocious at best. 

 Where does the scoring come from next season without Howard?

 Just don't see it if the kid wants to play for a competitive team.

 

[GloryDays]

1 minute ago, Walking Boot of Doom said:

Let me cheer you up by reminding you that Dawson Garcia is a lock and will commit to the Marching Archies on November 20th. 

I like the way you think!

[LamarCheeks]

I hope someone tells him that if he enjoyed beating the PUs last night, he can have a couple more cracks at them each year he's in Bloomington. 

Fun times. 

[RaceToTheTop]

1 hour ago, Fkfootball1 said:

 

 

 

I’ll put it to you this way. I have a lot of family that are HUGE boosters to IU. And I really don’t have or hear a ton of “insider stuff.” IU is pretty locked up tight when it comes to info. So for recruiting, the recruit himself or his family must leak something. IU isn’t just going to disclose recruiting information. Not with an AD like Fred Glass, “Attorney at Law.” Sam is a good Hoosiers fan, but he chucks stuff at the wall to see what will stick. Easy to do so.


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As opposed to our three point shooting, which is to chunk stuff up and see what stinks.

[Bigred3588]

4 hours ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

So is Sam Story all that reliable?  I see his name periodically mentioned on btb and I'm a lurker on another board that seems to think he walks on water when it comes to IU recruiting.  He tweeted this an hour ago.

Sam Story @Samueltstory

#IUBB - UNA film review done today. - Garcia gang to finally sit & talk to figure some stuff out on weekend.  DG is NOT going to MINNY or MEM.  Well sourced. - IU rotation = better athletes + more options vs. last year - Way more identity + belief. -  My summer predictions = IU

FWIW, I’ve been a member on multiple boards over the last decade+ and there have only been two “insiders” that I’ve ever put stock into. One is on this board (Chris007) and the other was, I believe, on the Scout site years ago. I think his handle was Birdman and as far as I know he hasn’t posted under that name anywhere in quite some time.

There could be others but I kind of stopped following recruiting for a time during Crean’s tenure. It was too difficult trying to follow all the players holding IU offers.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

FWIW, I’ve been a member on multiple boards over the last decade+ and there have only been two “insiders” that I’ve ever put stock into. One is on this board (Chris007) and the other was, I believe, on the Scout site years ago. I think his handle was Birdman and as far as I know he hasn’t posted under that name anywhere in quite some time.
There could be others but I kind of stopped following recruiting for a time during Crean’s tenure. It was too difficult trying to follow all the players holding IU offers.

Janitorinthegym was an insider for 2 seasons. I know some say a parent of the insider ran the account. Either way, I got some good stuff from the Janitor back in the day. I believe the source was a team manager. Not 100% sure though.


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[Alford Bailey]

1 hour ago, Bigred3588 said:

FWIW, I’ve been a member on multiple boards over the last decade+ and there have only been two “insiders” that I’ve ever put stock into. One is on this board (Chris007) and the other was, I believe, on the Scout site years ago. I think his handle was Birdman and as far as I know he hasn’t posted under that name anywhere in quite some time.

There could be others but I kind of stopped following recruiting for a time during Crean’s tenure. It was too difficult trying to follow all the players holding IU offers.

Agree on Chris007. Who was the guy who was supposedly a recruiting insider back in the Crean days? He didnt know much. Havent seen him on here in a while.

[Alford Bailey]

23 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Janitorinthegym was an insider for 2 seasons. I know some say a parent of the insider ran the account. Either way, I got some good stuff from the Janitor back in the day. I believe the source was a team manager. Not 100% sure though.


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He was kind of hit and miss unless you were getting stuff behind the scenes.

[mdn82]

Janitorinthegym was an insider for 2 seasons. I know some say a parent of the insider ran the account. Either way, I got some good stuff from the Janitor back in the day. I believe the source was a team manager. Not 100% sure though.


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Jason figured out who he was. When that happened he backed off. Some of his info and beyond basketball was legit. We had instances where the Athletic office reached out to Jason to pull things until it was announced in sports other than basketball. This was during the same time we were getting press passes. At the end he was not a source.


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[VO5]

Speaking of sources, where has Pap been? Don’t see him around much anymore 

[mdn82]

He was kind of hit and miss unless you were getting stuff behind the scenes.

He started to like being known as an insider. That’s when he became a miss. Very common amongst “insiders”. People flock to them and they feel important. I have seen that occur many times over the years.


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[Brass Cannon]

9 minutes ago, mdn82 said:

He started to like being known as an insider. That’s when he became a miss. Very common amongst “insiders”. People flock to them and they feel important. I have seen that occur many times over the years.


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Yep. They do the same thing the national ones do. They say something. Then walk it back. So they are right either way

[Bigred3588]

1 hour ago, Alford Bailey said:

Agree on Chris007. Who was the guy who was supposedly a recruiting insider back in the Crean days? He didnt know much. Havent seen him on here in a while.

I wasn’t really on this particular board until 2-3 years ago but that doesn’t surprise me. A previous poster was correct when they said that IU is tight-lipped on recruiting matters. I was a student from 06-11’ and knew one of the team managers pretty well. Players would come by his place on a  regular basis and recruiting was something nobody was really willing to discuss.

[KzooHoosier82]

1 hour ago, Fkfootball1 said:

The people that are insiders are friends with guys like Ned Pfau. He lives down here in Jeffersonville and he’s one of the richest guys in Southern Indiana. He pulls a lot of strings at IU. I was at Hubers 2 years ago, and Archie went and had a long conversation with him and took photos with him and his wife. These are the kind of people that have “information.”


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I know of Ned and heard of his connections to IU but even if Archie or staff gave him recruiting tid bits (which I highly doubt they do) he wouldn’t be telling his buddies especially given how easily it would be to know his “buddies” are turning around and posting said info on sites. Guys like Ned would shut that down in a second knowing it would otherwise result in him being shut out. 

Personally I think all of that “insider” stuff is nonsense by people who enjoy feeling important. It’s nauseating and I’d just assume wait until a kid announces rather than get all caught up in the preliminary crap. Sometimes we as adults need to get a grip and not take our hobbies so seriously. The “insider” stuff I see over here makes sense and seems to be presented as an educated opinion where as over on HSN it’s to be treated as gospel. Any notion of challenging it or holding those “insiders” who spread BS accountable will be met with mob justice. 

I made one comment here of my opinion of Sam Story (one that many people agree with) and someone brought it over there causing a **** storm. It’s pretty pathetic imo. I’m glad this site tends to root itself reality and isn’t the soap opera that is hsn. 

[coonhounds]

I know of Ned and heard of his connections to IU but even if Archie or staff gave him recruiting tid bits (which I highly doubt they do) he wouldn’t be telling his buddies especially given how easily it would be to know his “buddies” are turning around and posting said info on sites. Guys like Ned would shut that down in a second knowing it would otherwise result in him being shut out. 
Personally I think all of that “insider” stuff is nonsense by people who enjoy feeling important. It’s nauseating and I’d just assume wait until a kid announces rather than get all caught up in the preliminary crap. Sometimes we as adults need to get a grip and not take our hobbies so seriously. The “insider” stuff I see over here makes sense and seems to be presented as an educated opinion where as over on HSN it’s to be treated as gospel. Any notion of challenging it or holding those “insiders” who spread BS accountable will be met with mob justice. 
I made one comment here of my opinion of Sam Story (one that many people agree with) and someone brought it over there causing a **** storm. It’s pretty pathetic imo. I’m glad this site tends to root itself reality and isn’t the soap opera that is hsn. 

This site is far and away better posters almost seems like family. Hsn is more entertaining to read sometimes because of the clown show but wouldn't post much over there

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[mdn82]

I know of Ned and heard of his connections to IU but even if Archie or staff gave him recruiting tid bits (which I highly doubt they do) he wouldn’t be telling his buddies especially given how easily it would be to know his “buddies” are turning around and posting said info on sites. Guys like Ned would shut that down in a second knowing it would otherwise result in him being shut out. 
Personally I think all of that “insider” stuff is nonsense by people who enjoy feeling important. It’s nauseating and I’d just assume wait until a kid announces rather than get all caught up in the preliminary crap. Sometimes we as adults need to get a grip and not take our hobbies so seriously. The “insider” stuff I see over here makes sense and seems to be presented as an educated opinion where as over on HSN it’s to be treated as gospel. Any notion of challenging it or holding those “insiders” who spread BS accountable will be met with mob justice. 
I made one comment here of my opinion of Sam Story (one that many people agree with) and someone brought it over there causing a **** storm. It’s pretty pathetic imo. I’m glad this site tends to root itself reality and isn’t the soap opera that is hsn. 

That sadly doesn’t surprise me. My best suggestion is to be appreciative of what people bring and be skeptical at the same time. Over time the insiders will stand out based on how they are posting information.


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[Alford Bailey]

48 minutes ago, KzooHoosier82 said:

I know of Ned and heard of his connections to IU but even if Archie or staff gave him recruiting tid bits (which I highly doubt they do) he wouldn’t be telling his buddies especially given how easily it would be to know his “buddies” are turning around and posting said info on sites. Guys like Ned would shut that down in a second knowing it would otherwise result in him being shut out. 

Personally I think all of that “insider” stuff is nonsense by people who enjoy feeling important. It’s nauseating and I’d just assume wait until a kid announces rather than get all caught up in the preliminary crap. Sometimes we as adults need to get a grip and not take our hobbies so seriously. The “insider” stuff I see over here makes sense and seems to be presented as an educated opinion where as over on HSN it’s to be treated as gospel. Any notion of challenging it or holding those “insiders” who spread BS accountable will be met with mob justice. 

I made one comment here of my opinion of Sam Story (one that many people agree with) and someone brought it over there causing a **** storm. It’s pretty pathetic imo. I’m glad this site tends to root itself reality and isn’t the soap opera that is hsn. 

After the whole Billy Donovan debacle I quit listening to anyone over there (HSN).