(2019) SG Lester Quinones to Memphis

[Honkyman]

I guess Yogisballin didn't read my post. In response to the suggestion that IU concentrate on players in the 150 range rather than the top 100 high school players, I wrote that players in that range don't always turn out as well as those ranked higher. I mentioned Victory Olidapo and Rob Phinesee as players who showed promise right away and Damezi Anderson as one who had not "at least yet." It is a fact that Damezi Anderson has not yet played up to the level of others. Nobody said anything about writing him off.  So there is no need for your overdramatized mischaracterization "sad if you ask me." It might help if you read before you comment.

[mamasa]

I am thinking we need a basketball-only facetime facility.  and a separate one for football.  The ability to not share with other teams is vital to our recruiting efforts.

Make sure those facilities don’t have drop ceilings!


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[ray]

20 hours ago, Old Friend said:

I hope Archie never uses Facetime, if that's something a recruit uses to make a decision.  "A recruit" will never be important enough to convince me to believe anything on social media is the difference maker.    To me?  A recruit that needs this (and I already believe this about Quinones) is an attention seeker who's more interested in himself than anything.   Indication of being pampered and entitled.  I know social media is used and has its place.   But if Facetime communication is THE deciding factor and a player needs to be "shown love" that much?  Go to Memphis.

If you want to exclude all teenagers interested in technology and social media from attending Indiana University, then prepare to not have a full roster.  This comment seems ludicrous to me...or naive, at the very least.  It is also extremely critical of a person's personality, based solely on speculation that he is an attention seeker (never mind the fact nearly all other teenagers are as socially active or more so than this kid).

I know you hate the kid, or at least strongly despise him, but dang.

19 hours ago, ctown2grhoosier said:

It just makes no sense. We're probably only going to have 11 scholarship players next year. Possibly 10 depending on Hunter's health. Let's just say hunter can't go. That leaves us Rob, Green, Durham, Franklin and Anderson to cover the 1-3 spots. We still have no shooting threats at all. Unless these guys make tremendous strides we're probably going to be one of the worst 3pt shooting teams in the country again. I honestly think year 3 could be his worst year yet. Lets say we finish 17-15 next year with no postseason. Does Archie make it to year 4? Does he deserve a 4th year? Things are not moving in a positive direction right now IMO. It seems like recruiting has hit a huge wall. A lot of people are losing faith in Archie.

With the absence of certain players and the returning of Green and Durham, both of whom were fairly consistent shooters, I believe Indiana's percentage will increase rather dramatically.  I'm not sure what your definition of a shooting threat is, but my opinion is a shooting threat is exactly what Green is.  Phinisee shot well prior to his concussion and his body should be more prepared for the amount of minutes he was required to play last year.

Now, if Demezi cannot find his shot (which he happened to lose last year) and attempts a hundred more threes than anyone on the team like Romeo did last year, or if Trayce decides to shoot a third of his shots from 3 when we need him working inside and on the glass, then the numbers may not change much.

And this is all assuming no additions or subtractions take place.

[HoosierFan1994]

10 hours ago, yogisballin said:

I’m not ready to write Damezi off yet. Really can’t believe some of you are. Sad if you ask me


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I think every college player deserves two years. He could play a lot this upcoming year. Really wish Jake would have stuck around one more year. 

[yogisballin]

4 hours ago, Honkyman said:

I guess Yogisballin didn't read my post. In response to the suggestion that IU concentrate on players in the 150 range rather than the top 100 high school players, I wrote that players in that range don't always turn out as well as those ranked higher. I mentioned Victory Olidapo and Rob Phinesee as players who showed promise right away and Damezi Anderson as one who had not "at least yet." It is a fact that Damezi Anderson has not yet played up to the level of others. Nobody said anything about writing him off.  So there is no need for your overdramatized mischaracterization "sad if you ask me." It might help if you read before you comment.

I NEVER said that YOU are writing him off, did I? I agree, there is no need for overdramatized mischaracterization. Maybe, just maybe it would help you if read before you commented. 

[Old Friend]

3 hours ago, ray said:

If you want to exclude all teenagers interested in technology and social media from attending Indiana University, then prepare to not have a full roster.  This comment seems ludicrous to me...or naive, at the very least.  It is also extremely critical of a person's personality, based solely on speculation that he is an attention seeker (never mind the fact nearly all other teenagers are as socially active or more so than this kid).

I know you hate the kid, or at least strongly despise him, but dang.

 

Okay, ray.  Calm down.

Let's apply meaning and context to what I said.  I don't hate the kid or anyone else.  I think this one in particular is an attention seeking, "me first" kid for many reasons.   And what I meant (and basically what I said) was if the amount of Facetime he gets with a coach is a large or THE deciding factor in what school he chooses, this is one more example of why I believe what I do.   Go to Memphis.   I have no interest in kids who choose Indiana because of how much attention (see : "love") he feels from Archie Miller.    You either want to play basketball at Indiana University or you do not.  And I know you understand that.   Right?  Take a breath.

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I think every college player deserves two years. He could play a lot this upcoming year. Really wish Jake would have stuck around one more year. 

As long as his dad didn't

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[Honkyman]

Yogiballsin--Funny guy. You quote me while lambasting fans for giving up on Damezi Anderson. When I call you on it, you deny it. OK. Whatever you say.

[RaceToTheTop]

6 hours ago, mamasa said:

Make sure those facilities don’t have drop ceilings!


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Not to mention that we are lagging behind since we don't even have facetime player lounges.

[ray]

2 hours ago, Old Friend said:

Okay, ray.  Calm down.

Let's apply meaning and context to what I said.  I don't hate the kid or anyone else.  I think this one in particular is an attention seeking, "me first" kid for many reasons.   And what I meant (and basically what I said) was if the amount of Facetime he gets with a coach is a large or THE deciding factor in what school he chooses, this is one more example of why I believe what I do.   Go to Memphis.   I have no interest in kids who choose Indiana because of how much attention (see : "love") he feels from Archie Miller.    You either want to play basketball at Indiana University or you do not.  And I know you understand that.   Right?  Take a breath.

First of all, I will admit my fault and offer you the apology you deserve for placing words such as hate and despise into your mouth.  I do owe you an apology for this, and I am sorry. 

However, it does appear to me you like to harp on this player in particular (you do with Green as well, but you've based your judgment on him with far more evidence) more so than any other, and I think your reasoning is a bit premature and somewhat naive.  Like I said, and you said it yourself about your own children, nearly all teenagers are on social media platforms looking for some sort of attention.  I don't like it either, but I refuse to judge a teenager for it (I think it's just the reality of this and future generations).

And, to be clear, I am calm.  My words may come off as harsh at times, but I would like to assure you I rarely have animosity towards anyone and that includes you.  So, please don't feel as though I was attacking you.  The reason I mentioned your post seemed "ludicrous" to me is that I doubt Facetime is what is selling this player, or any other players for that matter.  What is far more likely selling this player, and most others, is the amount of attention he receives from the coaching staff.  I highly doubt the method of delivery matters.  To say someone "either wants to play for Indiana or he doesn't" may be true for a kid who grew up watching Indiana, but for the majority of recruits (especially considering the success of Indiana in these youngsters' lifetimes) they know very little about Indiana and have no prior loyalty.  I would guess it VERY MUCH IS about the attention they receive from the coaching staff.  And, in this particular case, the attention from one coach just happens to be coming by way of Facetime...and, perhaps the amount of time Penny has given Lester is paying off (or, as we have seen conjectured again and again on this forum, perhaps there are other methods of payments too?).

Anyway, I do apologize for placing words into your mouth.  I hate it when others do that to me, so please accept my sincere apology.

[yogisballin]

Yogiballsin--Funny guy. You quote me while lambasting fans for giving up on Damezi Anderson. When I call you on it, you deny it. OK. Whatever you say.

I’ll admit, probably shouldn’t have quoted you. That made it look like I was calling you out and that was not the case


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[darB s'tI]

You guys should arm wrestle and solve this once and for all!

[HoosierDYT]

Memphis just offered a 6’5” 185 lb. shooting guard in the class of 2020, Zach Harvey. I think Quinones is going to Memphis, and I know Harvey being in 2020 makes this pretty much irrelevant, but there are / were many signs that seem as if Quinones could choose IU. Yanno?


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[Brass Cannon]

1 hour ago, HoosierDYT said:

Memphis just offered a 6’5” 185 lb. shooting guard in the class of 2020, Zach Harvey. I think Quinones is going to Memphis, and I know Harvey being in 2020 makes this pretty much irrelevant, but there are / were many signs that seem as if Quinones could choose IU. Yanno?


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If he had been on campus we would have heard

[rcbowla]

Memphis just offered a 6’5” 185 lb. shooting guard in the class of 2020, Zach Harvey. I think Quinones is going to Memphis, and I know Harvey being in 2020 makes this pretty much irrelevant, but there are / were many signs that seem as if Quinones could choose IU. Yanno?

 

 

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Doesn't matter. All kids think they're better than their ranking. A problem with this generation. Although I sucked pretty much around the board I knew that. Today kids are told they're great. Guess what? 10% of kids today are great at one thing. In my age 10 % of kids were great at one thing except they seemed to know what that meant. Today they all (185 per year) think they are lottery picks. End one and done to end the unrealistic nature of HS kids! Don't care who we get or don't but the one's we do get I want them to expect to be here for 3 years at minimum. We won't have the NBA superstar to root for after but I don't care if we have banner 6 to brag about despite that!!

 

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[HinnyHoosier]

If he had been on campus we would have heard

Maybe I’m missing something because I'm awake later than I should be, but why would he have been on campus recently?


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[HoosierDYT]

Maybe I’m missing something because I'm awake later than I should be, but why would he have been on campus recently?


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I was confused with that response as well


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[RatpigHoosier]

Maybe I’m missing something because I'm awake later than I should be, but why would he have been on campus recently?


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He was on a plane with Billy Donovan. Knowing that Archie is going to get canned after this next season because he can’t recruit or teach offense, Donovan is planning on taking over the program. LQ is going to redshirt next season as a Hoosier under Archie then have four solid seasons playing for Donovan. Book it!


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[LamarCheeks]

Sadly for us, I expect to learn later today that next season, Lester will be ... 
 

 

[RaceToTheTop]

11 hours ago, rcs29 said:

Doesn't matter. All kids think they're better than their ranking. A problem with this generation. Although I sucked pretty much around the board I knew that. Today kids are told they're great. Guess what? 10% of kids today are great at one thing. In my age 10 % of kids were great at one thing except they seemed to know what that meant. Today they all (185 per year) think they are lottery picks. End one and done to end the unrealistic nature of HS kids! Don't care who we get or don't but the one's we do get I want them to expect to be here for 3 years at minimum. We won't have the NBA superstar to root for after but I don't care if we have banner 6 to brag about despite that!!

 

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Agree.  Quinones is ranked 60th in this class.  60 guys per class are not NBA level talent unless you count the cup of tea guys.  It's fine to have NBA aspirations based on working to get there. It's not fine to assume that getting there is based on a coach leaving you in to take more shots regardless of whether you are hitting.