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They say he's not involved with coaching, but if the Lakers win a game next week 58-54, you'll know why.

Looking at this year's bubble teams is why I'm so against expanding the tournament field. In fact, I'd like to see it go back to 64. There just aren't that many teams deserving to play in a championship tournament.

You got a link where he said they thought they were going to be a top 10 team other then players saying we feel we are a top 10 team and can compete with anyone in the country which I hear every non top 10 team players say after a win.

If they go beyond 68 teams they might as well just make it like high school state tournaments: every single team makes it and tries to work their way out of districts.

That to me is just a player saying they can compete with anyone in the country. Hear it all the time. That to me is like when a top recruit goes to Vanderbilt and says one of the reason he went there was he felt they could win a national title.

St John's didn't score a field goal for the final 17:28 against UConn lol

Ohio st on a 8 min drought and giving up a 18-0 run

Nice finish. Shay was dominant early on, then sorta disappeared, then showed up at the end. Nice contribution from Maya as well. She's not playing like a freshman any longer.

We hold on and even create a little distance there at the end. 79-69. Played like crap, but showed some moxie there at the end.

Kiaku just went coast-to-coast for a layup and got fouled. Pretty much blew past all 9 other players. Made the FT for an old-fashioned three-point play. Feel like we should've gotten more out of her this year. There can't be many B1G players with more speed than her.

Don't make Danny Hurley angry, you wouldn't like him when he's angry

Great post. Your post highlights why in part, so many of us are screaming to see more of Sisley. He's a mistake-prone freshman, but he's our only glimpse of the future on a team that isn't going anywhere.

So I will ring in here, I think it was fed up after Woodson and at a certain point, you could tell this team just isn't built to do the "it" we want it to. They are about at their ceiling right now which is to squeak into the tournament and probably be one and done. They are still in a position to do that but honestly you kind of look around at the programs in our area and after just seeing a national title run in football and sitting around watching 19-12, 8 minute scoring drought, can't defend very well basketball just isn't that exciting. We have been "rebuilding" for 10 years and frankly the program is just stale. The crowd was stale. The play was stale. There is just no juice, like it doesn't even really excite or bother me too much while watching the games anymore. I was all in on the football team during the CFP run and when I contrast it to this it is the difference between being invested and watching out of habit and nothing better to do. And when the bulk of the team is going to be gone next year, you aren't even watching for the future. The argument we have heard the past 10 years is that the fan base has held the program back with our negativity and we all just need to shut up and go away for awhile until they get things cooking again. They are getting their wish. Twitter was about as docile after a disaster like last night as I have ever seen out of the fanbase and that wasn't because of understanding, it is apathy.

Been that way for awhile. As far back as 87 power teams were getting in with under .500 records in conference. Ohio st a couple years ago go in with 8-12 conference record. IU that same year lost 12 of 13 games and finished 8-12 in conference as was 2nd team out of the tourney. I would make rather see the Indiana St team that got screwed 2 years ago then a mid power teams

Yep, I feel last year in particular was pretty transparent with sub .500 SEC teams making it (“look at the volume good losses”) and ramming a brand having a clear down year like UNC into the first four.

If they expand, it should be to include more small conference teams; especially regular season champions that get upset in the conference tournament. We absolutely don't need more 8th place major conference teams. IU has been the epitome of the bubble for years and while we as fans want to be in the tournament, none of those teams have truly DESERVED a bid.

Watch his journey episode and you will love him more

If you listen to what Carr says in his interview, he said (without saying) that this roster is not “it”. He does call it unbalanced and correctable but you dance with the one who brung ya. Despite not being world-beaters, I am proud of every member on the roster. We don’t have any head cases. We don’t have headline makers. No one is failing classes or throwing potted plants at walls. They’re all giving effort. That’s important to me. On the other hand, so is winning. So step one may be done but there’s miles to go. Maybe CDD is a fantastic coach but a poor talent evaluator. I’d take that over the inverse any day. Also Carr is a big proponent of building through the draft AKA high school. That’s a key to every successful program—all sports including IUFB.

While I admire Wilkerson, we are nowhere near a top 25 team let alone a top 10 team. We can’t rebound, we can’t create, we are not athletic, we’re small, we have multiple scholarship players that are essentially fillers and provide nothing…. Top 10 programs might have one of these problems, not all of them, like we do. We’re a seriously flawed team.

Good road win for this version of IU Ladies. E.N. excellent board game.

I think the point Pagoda was making is that Dolson's hands were tied until his Cignetti capital gave him the authority to dump Woody and start over with a Dolson-approved staff.

Never quit. Damn well deserved this win. Thanks @LamarCheeks for your updates.

It's not a distraction. You asked why people think Scott could fix IUBB. The reason some people do is he fixed IUFB. IUFB, like IUBB, is a significant college sport. I'm not sure if Scott will fix IUBB, I've got my concerns, we'll see. He's been in charge of it for about a year.

At least one of our bball teams is showing some gut checking fight at the end of a game.

Might as well make it 30 and tack on the 5 years at the end where Knight gave up on recruiting. People thought the program was dying then and we made the tourney every year and almost never had a losing record in conference. But UK was killing it and us, and Kansas, Duke, and UNC had clearly passed us by. It’s laughable to even put us in that conversation. There are programs like Arizona, UCLA, and Michigan who feel like they’re in major droughts who have had 10x the success we’ve had.

Shot clock violation. At this point in the season -- absolutely inexcusable.

10 years? More like 25 years. There’s legit been only 3 seasons (02-03, 07-08, ‘12-13) in this timeframe where we had a legit team that could make a run to the Final Four (of course ‘02 being the only one). Our program had 2 hall of fame coaches this century and fired both….one of which who is still coaching and has his team in the top 10 every year. It’s a wonder why we’ve sucked for so long.

Not really. Kory Barnett took the HC job at Oral Roberts, Tom Ostrom had previously coached here with Archie and had been fired, and Chester Frazier was never going to coach at Indiana. The only miss from the West Virginia team that IU could have used was Hansberry, but that guy was attached to Frazier at the hip who came with him from Illinois.

At the risk of getting tangentially off-topic, even with a 'meh' basketball team I will be just fine and a very happy Hoosier fan. It's because due to the combination of decades of less than successful basketball and a now historically incredible football team, my focus has changed. Much like basketball used to be the headliner for my IU sports focus and football was something I watched and hoped for a good moment or a good giggle? Now my IU sports focus has been reversed, only with a dramatic difference: Before the past two years, I was focused on a moderately/not successful and extremely frustrating basketball team, and I tolerated an unimaginably bad football team. Now? I am focused on an extraordinarily, unimaginably successful football team, and I tolerate a meh basketball team. That's a fantastic upgrade for my Indiana University fandom.

I'll take the other side of that prediction. I think he'll be remembered for the IUFB transformation and 16-0 National Championship season. It's probably the best story in college sports history. IUBB stunk long before Scott took over, so what's happening isn't new. I guess if he ends up needing to hire two more MBB coaches and he flubs those hires, and IUFB falls off... maybe the MBB struggles start to be more top of mind when it comes to him. That would be grim. We'll know in 10 years or so...

The coach that whines and cries the whole game - 81 The coach with no career technicals - 70 Bonus picks below: Egregious missed calls by the officials - 7 Indiana scoring drought - 6:42 F-bombs emminating from my couch - 142 NCAA chances after game - .00001% Free french fries won - 0

This is a good group of fellow Hoosiers. Young and missing their only impact big, but so, so easy to root for. If they all stay at IU, Caffey, Beaumont. Zania, and Maya + the high end additions on the way are going to be a national contender. Mark this post and mark my words.

Him just playing at IU is lifetime memory. You could tell he and his family felt that way for the opportunity. Would playing in the tourney be icing on the cake for him? Yeah he deserves a tourney run

Yeah I watched that video interview on field of 68 after dark. Seemed to me like a kid that had a hot game that said he felt if everything was going he felt his team could hang with anyone in the country and be top 10. Nothing burger for me but as you said only my opinion

Cj Gunn seems to be doing decent at DePaul.

27-13 quarter pretty well took care of it! What an absolutely CRAZY game!

Tied at 26 with about 5 minutes left in the first half. We were down 10 at one point, so there's that, but still ... this is some really, really ugly basketball.

Simple answer is not good. He knows it and everyone knows it. I can’t get over the fact of how his offseason went and what he built. It wasn’t good enough then and it’s not good enough now. Internally these guys thought they were a top 10 team. And that’s where my concern lies. I knew. You had to know. Not knowing is a window into the cluelessness that’s guiding the multimillion dollar program. The choices were questionable as they were occurring. When you build to just make the tourney vs build to compete to win conferences, when you fall short the consequences are more dire. It’s a start over from scratch situation. Other schools are way ahead of us, and this season didn’t help to catapult us from a recruiting perspective. And the coaching and the stuff we run?? It’s ok. It comes and goes. Some good stuff in there but some other questionable things that aren’t all personel related.

Agreed. Could not understand at all why he didn't see the floor during the Purdue blowout. The question was asked at the press conference, and the answer just didn't make any sense. Some rumblings on twitter that they hope he's not leaving. I hope that's not the case. He will be a B1G contributor in the upcoming years...

I know Lunardi sux but for full disclosure, even after last night, here's what he says about IUBB currently: News around the bubble: New Mexico survives its loss at Nevada thanks to USC's lopsided loss at UCLA. Indiana survives its loss to Northwestern, for now, because we still need 68 teams in the field.

I am of the opinion that that DeVries isn't the arrogant @$$ that the last guy was. So, there's that.

They feel similar, but I think the reasons for the declines are a little different, and Nebraska has harder to overcome issues: CFB recruiting went from regional to national and roster/scholly limits were introduced. They're in the middle of nowhere and it's hard for players and families to get to Lincoln. Also, rules changes meant they couldn't have 150 player rosters anymore, which they used to use to find/develop talent. Other schools replicated their strength and conditioning (and steroids) program, which for a while was a serious competitive advantage Conference changes didn't help, they're not as big of a deal in the B1G They struggled with a lot of bad coach hires IU issues: We suck at hiring coaches. Probably mostly because it has historically been a very political process that's included a formal committee, the President, the Chairman of Board, big donors, and even sometimes the athletic director. We've missed on plenty of good coaches I don't even want to list them all. Though I have to admit this latest hire was Scott's call with almost no political meddling, and it's not going great so far. In the '00's and '10's we didn't play the under the table money game well. We didn't pay guys like UK, KU, Duke, etc. We didn't have agent relationships. I thought the NIL era would fix this, but it hasn't. Frankly, at this point I can't explain why IUBB is so bad. And perhaps whatever it is that is constantly holding back IUBB, it's actually harder to overcome than I thought. We just need a good coach and seven good players. Why is this so hard?

I’m telling ya DDV is not getting 4 years just because if the writing is on the wall. It’s a different world now. He needs to make major strides next year. Compared to football basketball is an easy fix.

This was my reaction to the hire. Great hire but why...it's obvious that they are trying to be proactive because maybe they see a deficiency in DeVries' talent evaluation, roster construction/management, ability to juggle NIL/GM/talent eval/recruiting. I'm not sold on DeVries. I actually think this hire is something they put in place for a reason. Possibly the 'GM' gets to help hire the next coach should this experiment with DeVries not work. The L last night certainly did nothing to reassure me we won't be starting over in a few years.

I very strongly suspect that this came together two weeks ago because after 2/3 of this season, Dolson has recognized that the roster construction strategies by Devries are not working. And so he took a proactive step to do something about it.

Carr in his media availability this morning says the job came together in just the last 10-12 days, he never thought he’d leave the Pacers. He’s emotional talking about leaving them…had really worked his way up there. You don’t make this move without complete confidence in the coach and administrations vision to build a winning program.

Because Scott fixed IU football. You know, the program he inherited with the most losses in D1 and three total postseason wins. I get you want to be all mad at Scott, but you can't ignore the 16-0 CFB National Title and the 2x AP National Coach of the Year he hired and retained that did it. He's been in charge of IUBB for a little over a year -- it basically started when he fired Woody midseason. CDD is off to a bad start. I could be wrong, but I think it's more than likely he isn't the guy. It sucks. And having doubts about Scott being able to hire the right bball coach is fair after the start we've seen from CDD. But acting like there is no way Scott can figure out IUBB after he literally just figured out IUFB doesn't make sense. Fixing IUFB was way harder, and he more than fixed it.

I thought the GM was always the plan and have been disappointed that one wasn’t hired months ago. Happy there finally is one hired and now he has a job. I do like how the Pacers are built with long athletic players that can compete. We shall see how it translates.

Can we use next year’s NIL money to pay a buyout? Then it’s money well spent

This has been much more tolerable to me than the Woodson and Archie years. I can actually see shooters again. Team is terribly flawed and he will get this offseason to right the ship. Let’s hope that he does. I don’t think he should be fired now and think he gets 3 years. Would feel a lot better if we win 3 more games but I don’t know if we win again.