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IU vs Rutgers game thread

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I don’t think Crean would have done better w this roster. I feel for RoJo. Didn’t want his career to end like that. Hartman’s injuries really hurt his ability to play. Never could get Morgan going today. Seemed like he’s worn out. Team rode him all year.

Durham played well today. Otherwise, I don’t have much.
Freddie plays hard and gives effort.
Mcbob does the same. Just didn’t have the talent to compete when the shots aren’t falling.

Rebuilds are tough. Having patience is tougher. Iu needs to add two more to next years team. One from New Albany. The other, a grad transfer big. How much did The Michigan transfer help that year. There’s no guarantee how long Deron is out. And no guarantee he doesn’t move on.
Still think there could be a couple that choose to move on.

Rough year. Some good. Some bad. Lots to fix in order get better.


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Yep lots of people doubting archie. I told everyone crean stunk early on and why i thought so. I am telling you archie will succeed here just sit back and have some patience.

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"But...but....

What about instantaneous success? Other big schools do it with their first year coaches.

I sure hope CAM gets us three 5*s next year. If not he is a horrible coach and we'll never win another game EVER!

FIRE EVERYONE! FIRE THEM NOW! LIGHT YOUR TORCHES....WE MARCH ON BLOOMINGTON!!!"



I shouldn't have to put this, but I will: Sarcasm.


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I don’t think Crean would have done better w this roster. I feel for RoJo. Didn’t want his career to end like that. Hartman’s injuries really hurt his ability to play. Never could get Morgan going today. Seemed like he’s worn out. Team rode him all year.

Durham played well today. Otherwise, I don’t have much.
Freddie plays hard and gives effort.
Mcbob does the same. Just didn’t have the talent to compete when the shots aren’t falling.

Rebuilds are tough. Having patience is tougher. Iu needs to add two more to next years team. One from New Albany. The other, a grad transfer big. How much did The Michigan transfer help that year. There’s no guarantee how long Deron is out. And no guarantee he doesn’t move on.
Still think there could be a couple that choose to move on.

Rough year. Some good. Some bad. Lots to fix in order get better.


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You're too rational for this place. Get out before they start chucking beer bottles at you.

But I agree.


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Yeah I’m sick of the BTT flops - just glad I didn’t shell out for another year of disappointment even tho this one was finally a home game for me!

I’ve been ready for this season to be over since before it began. I hated that Archie had to play IPFW his first game as coach, and I knew nothing good was going to come of this roster. This was a bit worse than I thought, but I’m pleasantly surprised by Al and Justin Smith. Morgan’s improvement was incredible. Green is showing some real development. I’m excited for year two with a pissed off Archie!


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This is a pretty good take. I am not impressed with Al like so many others. Green......Ugh. Not sure he will ever get it. Moore............

I will be happy to see heavy roster turnover if that is what Archie wants.

I like Smith, Morgan, maybe Davis, McBob (only in the right role).

My personal assessment of our returning talent is just so weak.

Phinisee will be great.....some day.
Decent building block class with a weak returning team doesn't translate to the type of success I'd like to see next year.

And that is why I'm bummed out.

While all the other Cheating programs continue to add legit talent.


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So many low’s over the last few years. My fandom for IU, and really the game in general, has hit rock bottom. Some guy said we have missed the NCAA tournament 8 of the past 15 years. Honestly, it’s perfectly conceivable that we don’t make it next year either. That’s a problem for me. I love the tournament. Lived for it. Here’s the thing though, I don’t give a s*** about anybody but IU. I don’t care about watching how other B1G teams fare, and I damn sure don’t care about picking teams in the office bracket challenge anymore. If we don’t make it, I don’t watch. From guys getting in trouble with alcohol and running over people with cars, to the serious roster flaws of this year, you have wounded me IU. It’s easy to lump everything on the former coach. Don’t. It goes so much deeper. I’m tired. This program is more tired. Wake up.


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In a game in which your season is on the line, I sure would have liked to see a lot more intensity from the players.  Rutgers guys had it and we looked like we were scrimmaging.  That is what disappointed me as much as anything.

At least we were outstanding from the stripe tonight.  Other than that, it was a pretty bad performance.

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This is a pretty good take. I am not impressed with Al like so many others. Green......Ugh. Not sure he will ever get it. Moore............

I will be happy to see heavy roster turnover if that is what Archie wants.

I like Smith, Morgan, maybe Davis, McBob (only in the right role).

My personal assessment of our returning talent is just so weak.

Phinisee will be great.....some day.
Decent building block class with a weak returning team doesn't translate to the type of success I'd like to see next year.

And that is why I'm bummed out.

While all the other Cheating programs continue to add legit talent.


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I think if you flip the last two sentences of your post, you identify the real reason you and so many are frustrated.


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4 minutes ago, cappymo14 said:

So many low’s over the last few years. My fandom for IU, and really the game in general, has hit rock bottom. Some guy said we have missed the NCAA tournament 8 of the past 15 years. Honestly, it’s perfectly conceivable that we don’t make it next year either. That’s a problem for me. I love the tournament. Lived for it. Here’s the thing though, I don’t give a s*** about anybody but IU. I don’t care about watching how other B1G teams fare, and I damn sure don’t care about picking teams in the office bracket challenge anymore. If we don’t make it, I don’t watch. From guys getting in trouble with alcohol and running over people with cars, to the serious roster flaws of this year, you have wounded me IU. It’s easy to lump everything on the former coach. Don’t. It goes so much deeper. I’m tired. This program is more tired. Wake up.


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Yeah, I don't really give a rat's patootie about the rest of the tournament(s) after we've flamed out.  Growing weary of waiting for that big breakthrough.  What makes it doubly depressing is that for me, it's no more sports til football season - almost six months of nothing but speculating and begging for a recruiting "win".

In retrospect, I sure am glad I saw the Bob Knight comments about Archie this morning - particularly the part about patience.

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I could honestly see a lot of empty seats in November if we don't get Romeo. We'll always have passionate fans, but I think many people are just getting tired of waiting for this program to return to prominence. Many of my friends from school don't watch anymore, and my brother gave up during the early Crean years and hasn't looked back. People can only tolerate so much failure.

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I could honestly see a lot of empty seats in November if we don't get Romeo. We'll always have passionate fans, but I think many people are just getting tired of waiting for this program to return to prominence. Many of my friends from school don't watch anymore, and my brother gave up during the early Crean years and hasn't looked back. People can only tolerate so much failure.
Each year I lose more passion. It just drains it out of you slowly.

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I hate the Big Ten.

Hopefully, we get a big IUFB win out of this. Maybe Michigan?!

We started off hot and thought they would fold. They didn't. Morgan picking up his second with about 5 minutes in the half was huge.

Tony Carr was watching that game smiling knowing he'll be able to go for 30 every game in this tourney.


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Well with the Big Ten tourney over a week earlier does IU have to hold any practices for the tiny of tiny chances of a post season bid. I would just hope Archie would decline at this point and starting tomorrow builds connections with future recruits. Also start Smith and Race on a off season workout program ASAP. McRoberts and Durham start shooting the ball 250s a day. 

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There should be some interesting end of the year meetings with the underclassmen. The next two or three months will tell us a lot about what to expect next year. I really think the right grad transfer could be just what this team needs. I don't, however, expect CAM to go for any quick fixes.

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Does anyone else not like the “2 fouls and sit no matter what” approach Archie takes in the first half of games? I’m not trying to pick the coach apart here. He has my full support but, wouldn’t having Juwan for a few more minutes in the 1st tonight have been able to keep Rutgers from blowing us up like that? He finished the game with 2 fouls if I’m not mistaken. Hindsight is 20/20 of course but I think he makes that mistake more than he helps save the third foul. If we had a better roster I’d say heck yeah, take him out till the 2nd but, with the deficiencies of this roster, don’t you need to either let it ride, or bring him back in when it gets out of hand? Anyway, it’s over now. Oh well.


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