College Football Thread

[TTT]

Maybe, not recently, but several times has the underdog spoiled the season (kept the better team from going to Rose Bowl) of the better team in the Michigan vs Ohio State rivalry.  

[go iu bb]

7 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

The whole 'IU has the 106th ranked schedule'......I have no idea where that is coming from.  Sagarin had it at 77 entering yesterday, so that is going to get bumped up quite a bit.  Entering yesterday, SMU was at 64, Miami 59, and Clemson 51.  Given each team's opponents in Saturday, IU's schedule is right there with all of those and they have looked more dominant than any of them (with maybe the exception of Miami)

The 106 was from ESPN's system.

[RaceToTheTop]

I found where the '106th SOS' came from.  It was ESPN's FPI.  And AFTER the Ohio State game, IU's SOS jumped to #51 on it.  (FPI SOS stinks, FWIW -- IU did NOT have the 106th toughest schedule entering and there is no way SOS should jump 55 spots in week 13).

Also, FWIW, ESPN FPI projects IU with a 97.7% chance to make the playoffs (so basically, just need to beat Purdue).  

Percentage chance to make CFP:
Oregon 99.8%

Ohio State 99.5%

Penn State 98.9%

Texas 97.9%

Indiana 97.7%

Georgia 90.6%

Notre Dame 90.1%

MIami 79.6%

Tennessee 76.3%

Boise St 68%

SMU 62.5%

Alabama 37.4%

Iowa State 27.5%

Arizona State 25.9%

BYU 25.5%

Tulane 24.8%

Clemson 23.8%

South Carolina 23.1%

UNLV 15.9%
 

Army 12.6%

Colorado 6.7%

Texas A&M 6.3%

Ole Miss 6.2%

Everyone else is below 2%

[RaceToTheTop]

5 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

The 106 was from ESPN's system.

Yeah, found it.  And it's now 51 after the Ohio State game.  It's a sham ranking system.  Sagarin's is better.

[AZ Hoosier]

Bama didn't just lose, they got  blown out 24-3 to (then) 5-5 OK.
All things being equal, 3-24 looks worse than 15-38 even though the latter lost by 2 more points. Only being able to score 3 points is no bueno.

And the Bama loss was hung on them by a 5-5 team whereas IU lost to a 10-1 team ranked #2 nationally.

[AZ Hoosier]

The whole 'IU has the 106th ranked schedule'......I have no idea where that is coming from.  Sagarin had it at 77 entering yesterday, so that is going to get bumped up quite a bit.  Entering yesterday, SMU was at 64, Miami 59, and Clemson 51.  Given each team's opponents in Saturday, IU's schedule is right there with all of those and they have looked more dominant than any of them (with maybe the exception of Miami)

It’s pretty much anything the talking heads can do to disparage IU football. We get no respect, but we have a chance to prove ourselves vs a hapless Toiletmaker team… and 11-1 is a great record regardless of the SOS. The schedule is what it is, and IU has done very well against what we were given. Look at the margins of victory over some of these bowl-eligible teams.

[Hovadipo]

30 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Yeah, found it.  And it's now 51 after the Ohio State game.  It's a sham ranking system.  Sagarin's is better.

It has our SOS higher than Oregon’s now though, so maybe we should weaponize it. 

[DChoosier]

A guy with Sports Illustrated updated his playoff projections and has IU at ND with the winner playing SMU. Would take that in a nanosecond.

[Hovadipo]

14 minutes ago, DChoosier said:

A guy with Sports Illustrated updated his playoff projections and has IU at ND with the winner playing SMU. Would take that in a nanosecond.

Austin Mock from The Athletic has IU @ ND too. Playing into Oregon though. 

[Uspshoosier]

Whoever made this is awesome. lol 

[OliviaPope40]

21 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Whoever made this is awesome. lol 

Did Paul Finebaum release this for them?

[spe317]

FYI Kevin Wilson out at Tulsa. They were not great on the field but sources mentioned the “culture” that wasn’t easily fixed in addition to on-field results leading to the decision. Sound familiar?

[RaceToTheTop]

19 minutes ago, spe317 said:

FYI Kevin Wilson out at Tulsa. They were not great on the field but sources mentioned the “culture” that wasn’t easily fixed in addition to on-field results leading to the decision. Sound familiar?

I can't see him getting another D1 head job.  Two times not only did he fail to win enough but he also produced toxic cultures.  He needs to stick to being an OC.

[IUHoosierJoe]

1 hour ago, spe317 said:

FYI Kevin Wilson out at Tulsa. They were not great on the field but sources mentioned the “culture” that wasn’t easily fixed in addition to on-field results leading to the decision. Sound familiar?

You'd think (hope) he would have learned something.  Guess not.

[RaceToTheTop]

AP Rankings out.  IU at 10 behind Tennessee and SMU.  Boise State at 11, Clemson at 12.

Nightmare scenario would be Clemson beating South Carolina and the committee thinking that SMU, MIami, and Clemson all deserve to be in over IU.

[RaceToTheTop]

41 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

AP Rankings out.  IU at 10 behind Tennessee and SMU.  Boise State at 11, Clemson at 12.

Nightmare scenario would be Clemson beating South Carolina and the committee thinking that SMU, MIami, and Clemson all deserve to be in over IU.

FWIW, on NCAA.com they were projecting that Tennessee would be ranked 8th, IU 9th, Boise State 10th, SMU 11th and Clemson would be at 14.  I can not explain how in the hell SMU moved up to 9.

[rayl456]

Probably already posted, so apologies, but Tulsa fired Kevin Wilson today.  Not that anyone really cares…just fyi.   :)

[Alford Bailey]

5 hours ago, RaceToTheTop said:

I found where the '106th SOS' came from.  It was ESPN's FPI.  And AFTER the Ohio State game, IU's SOS jumped to #51 on it.  (FPI SOS stinks, FWIW -- IU did NOT have the 106th toughest schedule entering and there is no way SOS should jump 55 spots in week 13).

Also, FWIW, ESPN FPI projects IU with a 97.7% chance to make the playoffs (so basically, just need to beat Purdue).  

Percentage chance to make CFP:
Oregon 99.8%

Ohio State 99.5%

Penn State 98.9%

Texas 97.9%

Indiana 97.7%

Georgia 90.6%

Notre Dame 90.1%

MIami 79.6%

Tennessee 76.3%

Boise St 68%

SMU 62.5%

Alabama 37.4%

Iowa State 27.5%

Arizona State 25.9%

BYU 25.5%

Tulane 24.8%

Clemson 23.8%

South Carolina 23.1%

UNLV 15.9%
 

Army 12.6%

Colorado 6.7%

Texas A&M 6.3%

Ole Miss 6.2%

Everyone else is below 2%

Still giving Alabama a 37% chance lol!

[RaceToTheTop]

33 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

Still giving Alabama a 37% chance lol!

With the latest rankings, I have to say that IU's 98% is inflated given that the voters have SMU and Tennessee both above IU and moved Clemson all the way up to 12.  That doesn't necessarily mean that the CFP will have them in that order, 

My gut says is Indiana is going to be the 10 or 11 seed in the CFP release on Tuesday -- depending on what they do with SMU.  And you will need to keep in mind that the 12 seed will likely be Boise State, so that means the 11 seed is the last at large.  My fear is that Clemson beats South Carolina, Miami beats Syracuse, and SMU beats California and the committee decides that Miami and SMU (who play in the title game) would not be penalized for playing each other and they decide Clemson should leap frog Indiana because of their win over South Carolina.  IMO, that wouldn't be a just decision -- the ACC is weak and the three didn't play each other in the regular season, meaning the best in conference team any of them would have played is unranked Syracuse or Louisville.  But in my opinion, you can't put all three in because at best two of them would have two losses (including the title game loser) and none of their losses were to competition as good as Ohio State (and Clemson was dominated as badly as IU was against Georgia).

Lines of games with CFP significance this week (from Vegas Insider):
Tennessee 10.5 favorite at Vanderbilt

Ohio State 10 point favorite over Michigan

Clemson 4.5 favorite over South Carolina

Alabama 15 point favorite over Auburn

SMU 9 point favorite over California

Miami 10 point favorite at Syracuse

Texas 4 point favorite at Texas A&M

Oregon 18.5 favorite over Washington

Penn State 23.5 favorite over Maryland

Georgia 20.5 favorite over Georgia Tech

Indiana 28 point favorite over Purdue

Ole Miss 30 point favorite over Mississippi State

[hoopsta007]

So in everyone’s opinion, after the lack of class by OSU and their ilk (typical, I know), is it counterproductive to root for Michigan and then Oregon? Not sure that Penn St and IU can jump OSU so would that in turn hurt our chances?