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6 hours ago, RoadRage said:

I think Illinois was a big game, and I think the Hoosiers have rightfully earned some respect for it, but it was basically a toss up game, I think people were shocked by how easily we beat them, but not so much that we won. I agree though, that was a huge win for IU football!

I never understood why Illinois was rated as high as they were. Nothing supported their ranking. Personally, I was always more worried about Iowa. That said, Illinois is a better team than IU made them look.

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23 minutes ago, HoosierReb01 said:

I never understood why Illinois was rated as high as they were. Nothing supported their ranking. Personally, I was always more worried about Iowa. That said, Illinois is a better team than IU made them look.

Well the media made it a big game and projected them to be a top 10 team, IU proved to be the much better team, but it was still a big win because we could have been affected by the hype and instead we came out and dominated! Can our Hoosiers handle the spotlight next Saturday, with GameDay and all the national attention....it is going to be a real test on the road, they are capable of competing and even winning this game!

Posted
37 minutes ago, HoosierReb01 said:

I never understood why Illinois was rated as high as they were. Nothing supported their ranking. P

Returning starters from last year's squad was the word.

Posted
19 hours ago, Lebowski said:

PSU is probably done. Unless they run the table they are basically out of cfp contention.  Even if they run they table they might still be out.  That loss is worse then the Bama loss to OU last year.  Bad loss to a bad team. 

If they run the table they’ll have wins over IU and OSU and will have a great shot at being in. Having a win over an equal 2 loss IU team would probably put them in over IU.  Losing a close one on the road in conference will be what is remembered, not the giant spread. 
 

Bama didn’t make it last year due to having 3 losses. Some people still wanted them in. I think any B1G/SEC teams with only 2 losses will be in contention this year. 

Posted
29 minutes ago, str8baller said:

If they run the table they’ll have wins over IU and OSU and will have a great shot at being in. Having a win over an equal 2 loss IU team would probably put them in over IU.  Losing a close one on the road in conference will be what is remembered, not the giant spread. 
 

Bama didn’t make it last year due to having 3 losses. Some people still wanted them in. I think any B1G/SEC teams with only 2 losses will be in contention this year. 

Yes - if PSU runs the table they're in the CFP. 

But to run the table they'll need to beat IU, OSU on the road, a pretty solid Nebraska team at home, and Iowa on the road. 

If they run the table at this point? They will have damn well earned a CFP berth. Far more likely that they take two more losses.

Posted
31 minutes ago, str8baller said:

If they run the table they’ll have wins over IU and OSU and will have a great shot at being in. Having a win over an equal 2 loss IU team would probably put them in over IU.  Losing a close one on the road in conference will be what is remembered, not the giant spread. 
 

Bama didn’t make it last year due to having 3 losses. Some people still wanted them in. I think any B1G/SEC teams with only 2 losses will be in contention this year. 

PSU beating OSU on the road is about as likely as Natalie Portman and I meeting and falling in love 

Posted
1 minute ago, Brass Cannon said:

PSU beating OSU on the road is about as likely as Natalie Portman and I meeting and falling in love 

I'm thinking that if IU and PSU played next week in State College the spread would be three points or so. And PSU would probably be a three-five point underdog at Iowa.

Posted
1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

I'm thinking that if IU and PSU played next week in State College the spread would be three points or so. And PSU would probably be a three-five point underdog at Iowa.

I honestly think Iowa beats them then Penn State will hold onto some hope that a 9-3 record with a road win at OSU gets them into the CFP.  Then after that loss they completely crash.  Hopefully we swoop in to take advantage 

Posted
2 hours ago, str8baller said:

If they run the table they’ll have wins over IU and OSU and will have a great shot at being in. Having a win over an equal 2 loss IU team would probably put them in over IU.  Losing a close one on the road in conference will be what is remembered, not the giant spread. 
 

Bama didn’t make it last year due to having 3 losses. Some people still wanted them in. I think any B1G/SEC teams with only 2 losses will be in contention this year. 

I don't think it's as cut and dry this year. There will most likely be a lot more 10-2 teams this year compared to last year. With this scenario above it would also possibly mean that IUFB, O$U, UM, SC and Illini all finish 10-2 as well. The UCLA loss puts PSU out of the question in this case. Basically if there are multiple B1G schools that finish 10-2, PSU drops out. Even if they're the only 10-2 school in the B1G. They won't be able to leap frog another 2 loss school in another conference. O$U last year was the exception. PSU this year is last year's O$U because they won't be playing in Indianapolis for the conference championship. They're pretty much done. It was a bad bad loss. 

But let's not put the cart before the horse, there's so much more football to be played. 

Posted
20 hours ago, Lebowski said:

he UCLA loss puts PSU out of the question in this case. Basically if there are multiple B1G schools that finish 10-2, PSU drops out.

This is what I’m disagreeing with. The committee will look to big wins and metrics before bad losses. ND last year is a good example. Their loss to N Illinois was worse than PSUs at UCLA. As others have pointed out, in the extremely unlikely event PSU runs the table they’d have a 10-2 record that is better than almost anyone’s. A close loss to a conf bad team on the road won’t keep you out so much as not having good wins, imo. ND could be on the other side of the ledger at 10-2 with the two “best” losses but not a single good win and I don’t think anyone thinks they’ll get in.
 

Currently it looks like there is a good chance there will be more 10-2ish type teams than spots available. That is one big reason we need Illinois to keep rolling. They should help our cause quite a bit. 

Posted
9 hours ago, str8baller said:

This is what I’m disagreeing with. The committee will look to big wins and metrics before bad losses. ND last year is a good example. Their loss to N Illinois was worse than PSUs at UCLA. As others have pointed out, in the extremely unlikely event PSU runs the table they’d have a 10-2 record that is better than almost anyone’s. A close loss to a conf bad team on the road won’t keep you out so much as not having good wins, imo. ND could be on the other side of the ledger at 10-2 with the two “best” losses but not a single good win and I don’t think anyone thinks they’ll get in.
 

Currently it looks like there is a good chance there will be more 10-2ish type teams than spots available. That is one big reason we need Illinois to keep rolling. They should help our cause quite a bit. 

The committee released a statement this year stating that they're going to use 'enhanced metrics' to help evaluate schedule strength this year (I'm calling it "The IUFB Rule"). For example, using the FPI (which I don't like but it's just an example) PSU's SOR and SOS is 79 as of today. All the 5 other schools I mentioned have better schedule strength than this metric. 

And the ESPN Kirk Herbsuck narrative from the start of IUFB's loss to ND in the CFP last year has been about losses should mean more doesn't apply to losing to a UCLA type team, unless of course they win more games like they did last weekend. Based on the selection committee adjustments made this year, PSU is pretty much out of it, regardless.

Let me put it this way, if they get in, it's due to the brand and not the metrics. That UCLA loss most likely sealed their fate. 

Posted
2 hours ago, Hovadipo said:

If PSU runs the table, with a win at The Death Star, and is left out of the CFP this whole thing is more of a farce than anyone could imagine.

If that happens I’ll make sure to invite you guys to the wedding. But no stupid Star Wars questions I’m sure it annoys her 

Posted
2 hours ago, Hovadipo said:

If PSU runs the table, with a win at The Death Star, and is left out of the CFP this whole thing is more of a farce than anyone could imagine.

So who do they leap frog based on what the CFP committee said back in August. 

O$U - 2 losses at Illinois and at Michigan
UM - 2 losses at OU and at SC
SC - 2 losses at Illinois and at Oregon
Illinois - 2 losses at IUFB and at Washington/Maryland
IU - 1 loss at PSU

I think UCLA would have to win 8 games for PSU to get in at 10-2.

Posted
6 minutes ago, Lebowski said:

So who do they leap frog based on what the CFP committee said back in August. 

O$U - 2 losses at Illinois and at Michigan
UM - 2 losses at OU and at SC
SC - 2 losses at Illinois and at Oregon
Illinois - 2 losses at IUFB and at Washington/Maryland
IU - 1 loss at PSU

I think UCLA would have to win 8 games for PSU to get in at 10-2.

Really great back and forth on this topic, good points on both sides. Not sure about who would get leap frogged based on the merits/criteria the CFP committee shared in August. But... I think the PSU brand would give them the nod over most schools vying for the last CFP slot.

Maybe I'm too jaded but I think once the decision makers weigh the financial projections of PSU vs a school like IU or Illinois, they're going to be the choice as long as the decision makers can half azz an argument for it. EX: 2023 leaving out undefeated FSU in favor of 1 loss Bama because of injury. Also, though not directly related, UNC getting the last seed for last years tournament when everyone expected WVU to be safely in the field.

Would be best for IUFB to take care of business and leave them no choice :-)

Posted

HOOOO BUDDY.

Now this report from a local Chapel Hill tv station's news site. At a certain point, it matters less whether allegations are true than the fact that people think it's the case and are willing to say it. Some excerpts?

"It's all starting at the top, and the boys are being affected," a parent of a current UNC player said under the condition of anonymity for fear of retaliation. "I don't fault the players; I fault the leadership that created this toxic environment. There's an individualistic mindset. The boys are young, and they are feeding into it."

"There's been no communication with coaches and parents, period," a parent of a current UNC player said. "None, zero, zilch. Not one email from a coach, one text, phone call, nothing."

Under Mack Brown, parents had relationships with coaches and their phone numbers. Coaches might call a parent if they felt something was going on with their son. Multiple sources have said that Belichick's son, Brian, the defensive back/safeties coach, is very personable. Belichick's son Steve, the defensive coordinator, they said, is the opposite.

"He has not talked or had a conversation with most of the guys on defense," a source said. "They don't even have his number."

https://www.wral.com/sports/belichick-coach-culture-chaos-oct-2025/

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