(2018) PG Darius Garland to Vandy

[Bailey7878]

He'll know he made the wrong choice when Vanderbilt loses at home in front of 7,000 fans and he goes home and sees IU taking down a highly ranked team on Sports Center.
 
 

Do they even draw 7000

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[ebridges24]

3 hours ago, cljones1979 said:

We have a very good PG coming next year that came from purdue's back yard. And you know what......he really wants to play FOR indiana and that means a lot to me.

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He's an Indiana kid, he really wanted to play at IU and he's been overlooked,  that's why he's my favorite recruit and I will cheer for him the hardest

[drewheck]

Jerome IMO will start from day one as well as RP possibly. I think all our freshmen including Race will see time next year.

I think rp is a role player his first year barring a devonte green transfer

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[LamarCheeks]

3 hours ago, Bigred3588 said:

From Gary and isn't a saint. I'm shocked...

Watch what you say about Gary. I'm from there and am a helluva good guy. 

[schoosier]

This recruitment reminds me of the Kyrie Irving recruitment minus getting ••••blocked by your own assistant coach.

[dbmhoosier]

1 hour ago, schoosier said:

This recruitment reminds me of the Kyrie Irving recruitment minus getting ••••blocked by your own assistant coach.

Yeah by all accounts Crean thought he had Kyrie locked up.  Archie probably knew for a while though that Garland wasn't coming. 

[hoosierpap]

10 hours ago, mdn82 said:

Pap went balls deep on this one.


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What did I do?

[HinnyHoosier]

Pap went balls deep on this one.


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What did I do?

Sounds like the morning after a bachelor party....


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[Stuhoo]

9 hours ago, drewheck said:

I think rp is a role player his first year barring a devonte green transfer

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Drew;

I am a big fan of your posting and you are certainly entitled to your opinion, but if there's one thing to learn with absolute certainty from the first few games of the Archie Miller era, it is that the kids who exhibit metal toughness and focus will play, and play a lot.

See: Durham, Al. (versus Curtis Jones and DeVonte Green).

That, and that Archie Miller recruits with a huge focus on kids that he thinks will be able to exhibit that toughness. Archie thinks that Rob Phinisee is an Archie Miller player.

If RP shows that focus and toughness, he will play.

Immediately.

A lot.

[IUrocker]

11 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

Drew;

I am a big fan of your posting and you are certainly entitled to your opinion, but if there's one thing to learn with absolute certainty from the first few games of the Archie Miller era, it is that the kids who exhibit metal toughness and focus will play, and play a lot.

See: Durham, Al. (versus Curtis Jones and DeVonte Green).

That, and that Archie Miller recruits with a huge focus on kids that he thinks will be able to exhibit that toughness. Archie thinks that Rob Phinisee is an Archie Miller player.

If RP shows that focus and toughness, he will play.

Immediately.

A lot.

..and boy, am I looking forward to a roster full of those tough, hard-nosed kids that fit Archie’s criteria. Archie hit the nail on the head when he commented after the Indiana State game that the team is “soft”. Although I appreciate everyone IU has on its roster and will always root them on, it’s definitely the truth. Crean recruited and coached teams that were “let’s just try to win games by outscoring the opponent”, while Archie’s mindset is “let’s prevent teams from scoring as much as we do”. The current roster just isn’t used to knowing how to do that, and Archie knows it. Crean’s philosophy backfired hardcore if the team wasn’t hitting their shots. That screenshot of the IU bench after the Howard game told a tale, which I hope is one way rather than the other. I’m hoping it was the players being down in the dumps that they know they can and should do better, rather than thinking “wow, I don’t want to have to play this way.”

[HinnyHoosier]

 
Drew;
I am a big fan of your posting and you are certainly entitled to your opinion, but if there's one thing to learn with absolute certainty from the first few games of the Archie Miller era, it is that the kids who exhibit metal toughness and focus will play, and play a lot.
See: Durham, Al. (versus Curtis Jones and DeVonte Green).
That, and that Archie Miller recruits with a huge focus on kids that he thinks will be able to exhibit that toughness. Archie thinks that Rob Phinisee is an Archie Miller player.
If RP shows that focus and toughness, he will play.
Immediately.
A lot.

I like this a lot, Stu.

Sometimes we get caught up in skill sets, athletic ability, God-given talent, etc and forget the intangibles.

Players' mentalities are going to be more heavily weighted and rewarded during CAM's era.


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[cthomas]

26 minutes ago, HinnyHoosier said:

 

I like this a lot, Stu.

Sometimes we get caught up in skill sets, athletic ability, God-given talent, etc and forget the intangibles.

Players' mentalities are going to be more heavily weighted and rewarded during CAM's era.


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As it should he! I feel like order is being restored in the IU basketball world.

[bigrod]

A question I have been dying to ask anyone who may know, even before Garland made his decision, but didn't want to really push the conversation in this direction.

It seems Vandy has all of the sudden become this basketball recruiting powerhouse. They are in on all these big time recruits. Many are speculating they have a chance to get all three that they are after.

How much do you think Bryce has learned about recruiting from his dad?

[8bucks]

A question I have been dying to ask anyone who may know, even before Garland made his decision, but didn't want to really push the conversation in this direction.
It seems Vandy has all of the sudden become this basketball recruiting powerhouse. They are in on all these big time recruits. Many are speculating they have a chance to get all three that they are after.
How much do you think Bryce has learned about recruiting from his dad?

The question is is he following his dads approach or his brothers? Homer seemed a great and honest guy and often found kids overseas. General consensus on his brother Scott is that he is shady.

Hopefully Bryce is able to recruit clean and coach well.


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[Stuhoo]

1 hour ago, HinnyHoosier said:

 

I like this a lot, Stu.

Sometimes we get caught up in skill sets, athletic ability, God-given talent, etc and forget the intangibles.

Players' mentalities are going to be more heavily weighted and rewarded during CAM's era.


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The big payoff is when you find kids with the toughness and mentality it takes to win who also have extraordinary ability and skill sets. 

 

[bigrod]

12 minutes ago, 8bucks said:

The question is is he following his dads approach or his brothers? Homer seemed a great and honest guy and often found kids overseas. General consensus on his brother Scott is that he is shady.

Hopefully Bryce is able to recruit clean and coach well.


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Yeah, sorry - I got his dad and brother mixed up. I was referring to Scott.

[Trish]

Good ole Bryce Drew. I wonder if he still keeps tabs of Hanner? 

 

College basketball is shady, hence the big FBI scandal. Maybe Bryce is shady, we'll probably never know. But him going to Vandy shouldn't be all to shocking considering it's basically in his backyard. Two other top recruits interested in Vandy really just tells me that Vandy has always been Garlands top choice. 

[HinnyHoosier]

 
The big payoff is when you find kids with the toughness and mentality it takes to win who also have extraordinary ability and skill sets. 
 

Yes! And I forgot another quality: Coachability. A kid that wants to learn. A kid that wants direction. And for crying out loud a kid that can handle a butt chewing from time to time.


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[cthomas]

2 minutes ago, HinnyHoosier said:

Yes! And I forgot another quality: Coachability. A kid that wants to learn. A kid that wants direction. And for crying out loud a kid that can handle a butt chewing from time to time.


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Amen!! I'm right there with you brother!

[johnsoniu]

5 minutes ago, Treesh said:

Good ole Bryce Drew. I wonder if he still keeps tabs of Hanner? 

 

College basketball is shady, hence the big FBI scandal. Maybe Bryce is shady, we'll probably never know. But him going to Vandy shouldn't be all to shocking considering it's basically in his backyard. Two other top recruits interested in Vandy really just tells me that Vandy has always been Garlands top choice. 

Bryce had nothing to do with Hanner, that was his brother Scott.

I've posted this before, but it seems like it is warranted again. I've known the Drew family for almost 50 years. Homer and Bryce are some of the most genuine people I've ever met. I have no earthly clue what happened to Scott. I would be shocked if Bryce chose to follow in his brothers shady footsteps, but as you say, college hoops is shady business and even the most honorable have fallen to temptation.