(2018) SG Romeo Langford - INDIANA HOOSIERS

[WayneFleekHoosier]

People see what they want to see. If I was someone that saw recruiting as dirty and everyone of the top kids get paid I would look at the finalist and say if a top 5 kid picks Vandy he must be getting paid. There are people that see IU and Vandy in his final 3 and will not accept the fact that this should even be a question that the best player from the state should automatically go to IU. Others like to see Romeo as a non Alpha personality and will follow an Alpha to where ever they will go to college. I choose to see a normal recruitment that has been a pleasure to follow. They have done everything they said they were going to do. Not just this year but they have followed the plan for the whole recruitment even when duke, Kentucky and Louisville were involved. Media and fans have made their own narrative of what is going on (media said a while ago that Duke was the clear front runner at the time and would be hard for any team to make up ground.......years later they don’t even make his first cut). I choose to see a situation where once Louisville took themselves out of the picture this recruitment became wide open and a chance for IU to sneak in contention since before IU wasn’t even mentioned as a team that was trying the hardest to recruit him at the time (old staff). When I see Vandy in his top 3 I choose to see one of the first teams that offered him a scholarship (before he played in Europe with Darius) and him continuing mentioned them as a school he would like to visit after his sophomore year. I choose to see Kansas as a threat in any recruitment at anytime (cheating or not you cannot count them out). I choose to see the longer this goes the better for IU it is because it gives Romeo a longer time to get to know the staff and kee building the relationship that has definitely been the shortest of any coach in this recruitment. However you see this recruitment going one thing is for sure there has been up and downs, entrainment, and some trying to keep it on topic with information. No matter where he goes I will choose to follow him and watch every game he plays next year although that’s no saying much because if I didn’t know who he was or follow his recruitment I would be watching them anyway. I’ve watched everyone of Vandy’s 16 losses so far this year. Buckle up we are coming to the home stretch of this recruitment


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So you don't see recruiting as dirty? Listen to coaches that don't cheat, when the FBI probe started. Listen to these reports that say pretty much every high major program that wins is a suspect. Listen to warnings of Hall of Fame coaches being involved. Look at what Louisville, Miami, Arizona just got caught doing. And yet, we are to think think that a high number of kids are going to pass up these giveaways (that they feel they deserve) to go to a school offering just a free education.

It completely defies logic.


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[mdn82]

I can speak for myself, but when he picks Vandy I will handle it perfectly fine. College basketball recruiting is a dirty as it gets and desperate schools do what they need to get players they want. I won't blame Romeo, I'll blame the system as I have for all the other 5 stars we have missed on.

 

The common thread on Indiana 5 stars? Zeller, Ferrell, Blackmon? They come from independently wealthy families.

 

For me it's not the interview that has me commenting,

It's the general tone of the whole recruitment and the tea leaves that are being dropped along the way.

 

Archie will figure things out, with the guys he can get, eventually. We are seeing some signs of that now. Question remains will IU win some gray recruiting battles along the way? Until we do, our recruiting will look similar to the way it did with Crean but with our 4 stars coming from Indiana instead of the DMV.

 

 

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But what did he say during that interview to elicit a reaction? I don’t get the tea leaves good or bad but you all reacted to that interview. Which was about as Switzerland as there can be. As for the last paragraph I don’t really know what to say. It really has nothing to do with the interview that brought the reaction. It was a biased reaction that had really no basis in reality. It’s fine if everyone feels that way, but do we have to go to extremes every time an article comes out based on our personal bias that have nothing to do with recruit? This is getting excessively crazy. IMO

 

 

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[JSHoosier]

Free samples today:

[Uspshoosier]

So you don't see recruiting as dirty? Listen to coaches that don't cheat, when the FBI probe started. Listen to these reports that say pretty much every high major program that wins is a suspect. Listen to warnings of Hall of Fame coaches being involved. Look at what Louisville, Miami, Arizona just got caught doing. And yet, we are to think think that a high number of kids are going to pass up these giveaways (that they feel they deserve) to go to a school offering just a free education.

It completely defies logic.


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Sure Its probably dirty as hell. I can only speak for myself I just don’t get bent out of shape over it or lose any sleep over it. Whatever happens happens. If the fbi investigation comes and goes and nothing is done then I will continue to watch and love college basketball like I have always done, if the fbi investigation come and goes and it findings rock the college basketball world I will continue to watch and love college basketball and root for Indiana St as a 3 seed in the NCAA tournament


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[mdn82]

So you don't see recruiting as dirty? Listen to coaches that don't cheat, when the FBI probe started. Listen to these reports that say pretty much every high major program that wins is a suspect. Listen to warnings of Hall of Fame coaches being involved. Look at what Louisville, Miami, Arizona just got caught doing. And yet, we are to think think that a high number of kids are going to pass up these giveaways (that they feel they deserve) to go to a school offering just a free education.

It completely defies logic.


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I personally don’t see it as that. No. I look at this as they got a hometown kid who is out recruiting hard. Just because we don’t agree on that doesn’t mean we can’t discuss it. But what did the article have in it to bring this up? Was Romeo asked about being paid? Was he asked if Drew was dirty? No. He gave standard answers to standard questions and it turns into 5 or so people saying “we lost him. I knew we would.” That is crazy man. Every article. Every tweet it turns into that. It’s insane. Even if Romeo did accept cash to play at Vandy, does every tweet or article mean we should regurgitate the same things over again? That isn’t as much at you because you don’t do that. More general speaking. Goes for both sides.


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[WayneFleekHoosier]

But what did he say during that interview to elicit a reaction? I don’t get the tea leaves good or bad but you all reacted to that interview. Which was about as Switzerland as there can be. As for the last paragraph I don’t really know what to say. It really has nothing to do with the interview that brought the reaction. It was a biased reaction that had really basis in reality. It’s fine if everyone feels that way, but do we have to go to extremes every time an article comes out based on our personal bias that have nothing to do with recruit? This is getting excessively crazy. IMO


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My post was not in response to the interview. I didn't even listen to it at first. My posts since Garland picked Vandy have been consistent and not really reactionary. I liked him coming to the NW game. That was a perk but it also fits my theory.

I'm just kind of fed up with recruiting in general and how crooked it is. I have been long before this FBI thing as you all know. The Romeo recruitment to me is just another recruitment in the saga of high profile kids and what comes from it.


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[Brass Cannon]

So there's talk he's going to come for another game. Obviously OSU? Where did this talk come from

[IUHAHN81]

1 minute ago, Brass Cannon said:

So there's talk he's going to come for another game. Obviously OSU? Where did this talk come from

IndyStar article.  Tim Langford said it's possible.  Nothing concrete tho.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

I personally don’t see it as that. No. I look at this as they got a hometown kid who is out recruiting hard. Just because we don’t agree on that doesn’t mean we can’t discuss it. But what did the article have in it to bring this up? Was Romeo asked about being paid? Was he asked if Drew was dirty? No. He gave standard answers to standard questions and it turns into 5 or so people saying “we lost him. I knew we would.” That is crazy man. Every article. Every tweet it turns into that. It’s insane. Even if Romeo did accept cash to play at Vandy, does every tweet or article mean we should regurgitate the same things over again? That isn’t as much at you because you don’t do that. More general speaking. Goes for both sides.


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I agree in general. I'm not so reactionary. I view the big picture.

However if we ignore the landscape that college basketball recruiting is dirty it's hard to have a conversation that involves all options. I'm not specifically saying Romeo's is dirty (or whatever u want to call it-coaches and players don't view it as dirty-they view it as the accepted norm), but there is enough circumstantial evidence that one must factor it into their analysis.


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[akinnaird24]

Cheers to Vandy getting smoked today!

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Sure Its probably dirty as hell. I can only speak for myself I just don’t get bent out of shape over it or lose any sleep over it. Whatever happens happens. If the fbi investigation comes and goes and nothing is done then I will continue to watch and love college basketball like I have always done, if the fbi investigation come and goes and it findings rock the college basketball world I will continue to watch and love college basketball and root for Indiana St as a 3 seed in the NCAA tournament


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Agree. I'll keep watching either way as well, but to ignore the obvious when discussing high profile recruiting doesn't make much sense. People want to ignore it, but it's the presiding factor in the sport right now. And honestly always has been for those that know how recruiting works.


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[dbmhoosier]

10 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

So there's talk he's going to come for another game. Obviously OSU? Where did this talk come from

Doesn't Romeo have a game that night?

[Uspshoosier]

Agree. I'll keep watching either way as well, but to ignore the obvious when discussing high profile recruiting doesn't make much sense. People want to ignore it, but it's the presiding factor in the sport right now. And honestly always has been for those that know how recruiting works.


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Yeah I think where we disagree is I don’t view every single high profile recruit as a dirty recruitment. I know it happens and it has been going on since the Knight days. Stuff he said in an interview back then holds up today when it comes to recruiting. I don’t ignore it I personally don’t think it’s going on with every top 10 recruit


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[WayneFleekHoosier]

Yeah I think where we disagree is I don’t view every single high profile recruit as a dirty recruitment. I know it happens and it has been going on since the Knight days. Stuff he said in an interview back then holds up today when it comes to recruiting. I don’t ignore it I personally don’t think it’s going on with every top 10 recruit


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Shoe companies and agents and handlers are the new boosters. It's SO much more prevalent now than it has ever been. Every person/company wants an "in" with the next LeBron, Durant, etc...... AAU scene and rating services have elevated this behavior as well.

Look at the amount of Money Adidas is current paying Derrick Rose and his AAU team.

It's so much more pervasive than we care to know at the 5 star and especially top 10 level.




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[Bailey7878]

I can speak for myself, but when he picks Vandy I will handle it perfectly fine. College basketball recruiting is a dirty as it gets and desperate schools do what they need to get players they want. I won't blame Romeo, I'll blame the system as I have for all the other 5 stars we have missed on.

The common thread on Indiana 5 stars? Zeller, Ferrell, Blackmon? They come from independently wealthy families.

For me it's not the interview that has me commenting,
It's the general tone of the whole recruitment and the tea leaves that are being dropped along the way.

Archie will figure things out, with the guys he can get, eventually. We are seeing some signs of that now. Question remains will IU win some gray recruiting battles along the way? Until we do, our recruiting will look similar to the way it did with Crean but with our 4 stars coming from Indiana instead of the DMV.


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Wow gave up huh.

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[HoosierHoops1]

2 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Yeah I think where we disagree is I don’t view every single high profile recruit as a dirty recruitment. I know it happens and it has been going on since the Knight days. Stuff he said in an interview back then holds up today when it comes to recruiting. I don’t ignore it I personally don’t think it’s going on with every top 10 recruit


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I think it was long before that. I've heard that Clyde Lovelette had already moved into his Indiana dorm room, when Kansas swooped in and took him to Lawrence. He won a National Title there, before our '53 title. 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Wow gave up huh.

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Actually, not completely. I don't fully know what Archie and staff are capable of and if we want to do what is necessary. This recruitment imo will tell us a lot about what to expect going forward. But it sure looks that way for now.


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[Bailey7878]

It's been Vandy all along.  Some got played...again.  Please no one act surprised when it's official like the Cleveland fans did when LeBron announced he was talking his talents to Miami or Illini fans when Cliff Alexander announced.  It's been very obvious all along what it would be.  He has been playing us though and I'm definitely rooting for Floyd Central.

Your a paid vandy troll. There is no other explanation for you so take your anchor and go back to the vandy board please.

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[Brass Cannon]

10 minutes ago, Iugradman said:

It pisses me off that Garland justified his decision in part because Vandy is close to home but is trying to convince Romeo to ignore the close proximity of New Albany to IU. 

It's pretty comparable I think to be fair

[KDB]

If the sayings that Romeo's parents like IU and want him there are true, maybe this possible trip to Indiana is them trying to show Romeo one more time where they think he should be. That is if he isn't already leaning to IU. 

On a side note, lets hope Vandy gets annihilated today.