College Bball Thread

[Chris007 44,757]

Not sure where to put this but former IU great Daryl Thomas passed away from a heart attack. What a great player from the 87 team.

[Class of '66 Old Fart 85,353]

10 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Not sure where to put this but former IU great Daryl Thomas passed away from a heart attack. What a great player from the 87 team.

Very sad news.  Really nice article about him from 2013 including this about his IU recruitment:   “Coach Knight was the only guy to come into my house and sit down with my parents and me,” Thomas said. “He told us that he could not guarantee me any playing time, which caught me a little off guard. But he said that if I came to Indiana, earned my four-year degree, grew as a man, and put in the necessary work on and off the court, I would not have to worry about money again. I loved his honesty.”

And an added piece of trivia, he got the assist for The Shot.

http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/2013/01/30/indiana-basketball-legend-settles-in-bolingbrook-finds-calling-coaching-youth/amodtub/

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9 hours ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Interesting piece from ESPN.com on being a burger boy doesn't automatically transcend to NBA stardom.  

During a 20-year stretch from 1993-2012, 42 percent of McDonald's All Americans played fewer than 25 career NBA games.

Less than half -- 43.1 percent -- played more than 175 games, the equivalent of two-plus seasons. Only 39 of 469 players -- 8.3 percent -- made more than one NBA All-Star Game.

http://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/22941694/mcdonald-all-american-selections-not-guaranteed-nba-success

It is interesting but not surprising.  Just look at the number of IU Burger Boys  that did not turn into multi-year NBA players.  Pat Graham, Greg Graham (I do not think he was in league multi-years), Bracy Wright, Luke Recker, Dane Fife, Neil Reed, Damon Bailey, Sherron Wilkerson, Daryl Thomas, etc.

That being said...Recruiting and/or judging talent is a "numbers game" and  43% of Burger Boys playing at least 175 NBA games and 8.3 percent being all stars is massively higher than the odds of a non-burger boy D1 player being in the NBA.

 

 

[Class of '66 Old Fart 85,353]

On the topic of women's basketball this makes 'Creaning' look totally amateurish.  In fairness to Coach Gillespie, she was just hired in April of '17 so 4 of the 5 were not her recruits.

NORMAL — Illinois State women's basketball coach Kristen Gillespie confirmed Wednesday that five Redbird players with remaining eligibility will not return to the team next season.

Zakiya Beckles, Morgan VanHyfte, Deja Turner, Amaria Allen and Ajai Simmons will not have their scholarships renewed, according to the first-year ISU coach.

Simmons was a freshman this past season, while Beckles, VanHyfte, Turner and Allen were sophomores.

VanHyfte sat out the entire season while recovering from knee surgery, while the other four combined for 11 points and 15 rebounds in limited playing time.

“We have great kids. They are all great character kids. We had some tough conversations,” Gillespie said. “They were not taken lightly in our thought process. Our staff took that week after the season and evaluated all aspects of our team. It was our staff’s decision.”

Simmons saw action in 13 games during ISU’s 14-16 season, Allen and Beckles took the floor in 10 and Turner six.

“We want all our kids to have a great experience on the court and in the classroom,” said Gillespie, who led ISU to its best season since 2012-13 in her first year as coach. “They are kids who want to play, and we thought it was in their best interest to play to find another school.

"Our staff is diligently working to find great fits both academically and athletically where they can get great degrees and really have a chance to be on the court and have an impact.”

With only Hannah Green in this year’s senior class and five freshmen in the incoming recruiting class, ISU had been two over the NCAA scholarship limit of 15 for next season.

The 2018-19 Redbirds (at this time) will comprise four seniors (Simone Goods, Viria Livingston, Katrina Beck and Millie Stevens), two juniors (Megan Talbot and Frannie Corrigan), one sophomore (Paige Saylor) and five freshmen (Kayel Newland, Ally Gietzel, Anya Brooks, Mary Crompton and Lexy Koudelka).

That means Gillespie now has three additional scholarships available for next season. The ISU coach does not yet know if she will fill one, two or all three of those openings.

“It all depends on who is available and any transfers,” Gillespie said. “I can’t say yes or no. It’s all about signing that good fit.”

[Class of '66 Old Fart 85,353]

Lukas Kisunas a 3-star 6'8" from Brewster Academy has de-committed from UConn.

[Class of '66 Old Fart 85,353]

Corey Sanders now a footnote in Ruters basketball history.

[Stuhoo 81,627]

31 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Corey Sanders now a footnote in Ruters basketball history.

 

Woof.

 

[Chris007 44,757]

Yahoo sports just broke this story

 

Yahoo Sports story: McDonald’s All-American Darius Bazley decommits at Syracuse, becomes first top high school prospect to choose turning professional in the NBA G League.

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Wow. Darius Bazley chooses the G-League over Syracuse.

https://sports.yahoo.com/projected-top-10-draft-pick-make-leap-high-school-g-league-193725979.html

 

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Pretty happy we didn’t get Bazley now. That would’ve been a tough pill to swallow

[Stuhoo 81,627]

5 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Yahoo sports just broke this story

 

Yahoo Sports story: McDonald’s All-American Darius Bazley decommits at Syracuse, becomes first top high school prospect to choose turning professional in the NBA G League.

 

Is that a product of Bazley's age? 

I would have thought the G-League has the same one-and-done policy as their NBA parent.

 

[Chris007 44,757]

1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

 

Is that a product of Bazley's age? 

I would have thought the G-League has the same one-and-done policy as their NBA parent.

 

No I'm pretty sure you can go straight into the G league just not to the NBA

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On 3/28/2018 at 9:54 AM, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Interesting piece from ESPN.com on being a burger boy doesn't automatically transcend to NBA stardom.  

During a 20-year stretch from 1993-2012, 42 percent of McDonald's All Americans played fewer than 25 career NBA games.

Less than half -- 43.1 percent -- played more than 175 games, the equivalent of two-plus seasons. Only 39 of 469 players -- 8.3 percent -- made more than one NBA All-Star Game.

http://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/22941694/mcdonald-all-american-selections-not-guaranteed-nba-success

Wow.  Just for giggles I looked at the rosters over the past decade or so (McD Allstars ).  Not only a small percentage that played in the NBA, but a heck of a lot of them didn't really distinguish themselves in college.

I've never enjoyed watching that game, so I don't have any expertise on the subject, but when was the last time IU had a McD player that was a starter in the game (Zeller?)?

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14 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Yahoo sports just broke this story

 

Yahoo Sports story: McDonald’s All-American Darius Bazley decommits at Syracuse, becomes first top high school prospect to choose turning professional in the NBA G League.

Took a quick look on the Syr message board (it's gotta suck for them).  Best comment was "none and done".

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That's Pittsburg job is awful. The good news is there an no expectations.

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The Mocs of Chattanooga had a sweet 16 run in 1997.

The Minutemen unofficially had a final four in 1996.

Neither team has won an NCAA tournament game since those runs. UMass is in the Atlantic 10 which is traditionally a better conference than the SoCon. The Mocs hold an NCAA appearance edge, 11-9 and have never had an appearance vacated by the NCAA.


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Duke assistant is a better job. 

Stallings made it awful, it was pretty good prior to him. It's like Stallings took the job just to ruin the program.

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14 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

No I'm pretty sure you can go straight into the G league just not to the NBA

I am not an NBA fan so I have no idea and am curious....

Aren't all the G League teams associated with an NBA team (similar to minor league baseball)? I know not all NBA teams have a G League team (at least I think I know that) but I thought all G League teams in existence had an NBA team affiliation?

And if my assumptions above are correct how can they jump directly to the G League? Is there a G League Draft? Who would get somebody like this' "rights"?

 

Thanks for any info anybody can share.

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6 minutes ago, Str8Hoosiers said:

I am not an NBA fan so I have no idea and am curious....

Aren't all the G League teams associated with an NBA team (similar to minor league baseball)? I know not all NBA teams have a G League team (at least I think I know that) but I thought all G League teams in existence had an NBA team affiliation?

And if my assumptions above are correct how can they jump directly to the G League? Is there a G League Draft? Who would get somebody like this' "rights"?

 

Thanks for any info anybody can share.

Players can, and have always, been able to go straight to the G-League from high school. There is not 19/one year removed from high school rule. Romeo Langford could do the same thing, Cody Zeller could have done it too. 

[Hoosierfan2017 21,763]

I think Bazley will come to regret this decision. 

[HoosierHoops1 5,024]

24 minutes ago, Str8Hoosiers said:

I am not an NBA fan so I have no idea and am curious....

Aren't all the G League teams associated with an NBA team (similar to minor league baseball)? I know not all NBA teams have a G League team (at least I think I know that) but I thought all G League teams in existence had an NBA team affiliation?

And if my assumptions above are correct how can they jump directly to the G League? Is there a G League Draft? Who would get somebody like this' "rights"?

 

Thanks for any info anybody can share.

According to the article, there will be a G-league draft in October. I would assume he would be listed as a 1-way player, meaning he can only play in the G-League and won't have any personal affiliation with an NBA team. Then he can enter the 2019 NBA draft same as if he had gone to the 'cuse