IUFB Recruiting and Transfer Portal Updates

[tyappleg]

2 hours ago, Demo said:

Using the always dubious scouting of the stat line, am I correct in assuming he’s a bit of a gunslinger? He threw more picks in 400 attempts last year than Mendoza threw in the last 2 years in 700. But he also threw 29 scores, So I assume he’s really trying to make plays? 

TCU didn't have an O-Line, Running game, or much of a defense this year.  He was basically a one man show on offense; which led to some mistakes on his end for sure.  He doesnt appear to be very mobile.  But if you can put him behind a decent offensive line and give him a run game, I could see him taking a leap with us. 

He has some cons for sure (turnover prone and lack of mobility), but he can also make some throws not many can make.  

It would be a slight step back from a Fernando Mendoza (but almost every QB would be), but would still be a very good pick up in my opinion. 

[rcbowla]

20 minutes ago, Lebowski said:

Can someone explain the transfer rules now? Isn't the window shorter now? Wondering if the CFP champion and runner-up will be able to get in the game of the portal? 

Think it's 1/2-1/10 or something like that. No spring portal. I imagine playoff P4 teams will actually be at an advantage given the lure of playing for a contender.

[Lebowski]

6 minutes ago, rcbowla said:

Think it's 1/2-1/10 or something like that. No spring portal. I imagine playoff P4 teams will actually be at an advantage given the lure of playing for a contender.

Thanks for the response here. Appreciate it. Can a player playing in the CFP during that time period declare "transfer" while still playing on the team? Or does that player have to stop playing? I don't understand the rules at all. I ask because I'm assuming there will be available transfers that are currently in the playoff, much like Pat Coogan from last year. 

Also, it really puts current playoff teams in a bind if you think about it. Especially if you start signing transfers. I can't imagine what that would say to some of the players on the roster, if that makes sense. 

[rcbowla]

Just now, Lebowski said:

Thanks for the response here. Appreciate it. Can a player playing in the CFP during that time period declare "transfer" while still playing on the team? Or does that player have to stop playing? I don't understand the rules at all. I ask because I'm assuming there will be available transfer that are currently in the playoff, much like Pat Coogan from last year. 

Yeah not sure on that either but I think they can enter and play but whether or not the coach would allow that I'm doubtful. It is interesting and I was thinking of it from the opposite direction. Really does put those kids/coaches in a bind. Good question and I await a smart response lol. 

[DChoosier]

The NCAA’s Administrative Committee has recommended a new 15-day window, from Jan. 2-16, during which college footballplayers can enter the transfer portal, the organization announced on Tuesday, Oct. 7.
 

Also…..

If a player is on a team playing in the championship (ie after the 16th) that player is given a 5 day window after the game to declare for the portal.

[Pagoda]

I’ve got no intel, but IU accounts are discussing him.  He was committed to IU at one point as many will remember.

 

[Lebowski]

5 minutes ago, DChoosier said:

The NCAA’s Administrative Committee has recommended a new 15-day window, from Jan. 2-16, during which college footballplayers can enter the transfer portal, the organization announced on Tuesday, Oct. 7.
 

Also…..

If a player is on a team playing in the championship (ie after the 16th) that player is given a 5-6 day window after the game to declare for the portal.

Thanks for the information. Appreciate it. 

[Lebowski]

19 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

I’ve got no intel, but IU accounts are discussing him.  He was committed to IU at one point as many will remember.

 

He committed to Tom Allen and later flipped to Garrett Riley. Both are currently at Clemson.

[DChoosier]

I understand Hoover not wanting to get hurt but still don’t like that he has stated he will enter the portal on Jan 2 but will not play their late December Bowl game against USC. 

The portal, not the playoffs, is the primary reason the bowl games are completely meaningless.  As an example Team X beats Team Y but who cares because Team X’s 5 best players sat out.  
 

Prior to the portal, and expanded playoffs, only the participant school’s fans really cared who won the Music City Bowl, as an example, but at least the fans knew their “real/complete team” beat the other “real/complete team”. The non-playoff bowls are pretty much a joke now.

[RoadRage]

3 hours ago, Demo said:

At this point, Cig has more collateral than maybe any coach, ever. He could bring in this dude to play QB and I’m just gonna say ok, brilliant move Cig.

You have to admit, the Black Knight didn't lack effort or confidence.......

[Artie86]

1 hour ago, DChoosier said:

I understand Hoover not wanting to get hurt but still don’t like that he has stated he will enter the portal on Jan 2 but will not play their late December Bowl game against USC. 

The portal, not the playoffs, is the primary reason the bowl games are completely meaningless.  As an example Team X beats Team Y but who cares because Team X’s 5 best players sat out.  
 

Prior to the portal, and expanded playoffs, only the participant school’s fans really cared who won the Music City Bowl, as an example, but at least the fans knew their “real/complete team” beat the other “real/complete team”. The non-playoff bowls are pretty much a joke now.

I was just coming to post a similar thing...... It's so frustrating that players "bail" on a team at the end of the season, especially if they qualify for a bowl. It really cheapens the team and the bowl. I mean, these bowls are shelling out a decent amount of money for these teams to come play in their bowl. In the end some of these team's key players "pass" on thier team's invite and then look and play nothing like they did during the season.  Every team goes into the season with hopes to make a bowl...... It just baffles me.

[tyappleg]

4 minutes ago, Artie86 said:

I was just coming to post a similar thing...... It's so frustrating that players "bail" on a team at the end of the season, especially if they qualify for a bowl. It really cheapens the the team and the bowl. I mean, these bowls are shelling out a decent amount of money for these teams to come play in their bowl. In the end some of these team's key players "pass" on thier team's invite and then look and play nothing like they did during the season.  Every team goes into the season with hopes to make a bowl...... It just baffles me.

There is a current QB on the IU team that just won the Heisman Trophy who also "bailed" on his team.   It's not 2004 anymore.  Getting injured in a bowl game can literally cost some of these guys 3 million dollars.  I dont really blame anybody in line for a huge payday for sitting out. 

[Artie86]

6 minutes ago, tyappleg said:

There is a current QB on the IU team that just won the Heisman Trophy who also "bailed" on his team.   It's not 2004 anymore.  Getting injured in a bowl game can literally cost some of these guys 3 million dollars.  I dont really blame anybody in line for a huge payday for sitting out. 

....good point! I guess the bowl representatives know what they're getting into. Maybe there are just too many "watered down" bowls, I don't know. 

[Stuhoo]

8 minutes ago, tyappleg said:

There is a current QB on the IU team that just won the Heisman Trophy who also "bailed" on his team.   It's not 2004 anymore.  Getting injured in a bowl game can literally cost some of these guys 3 million dollars.  I dont really blame anybody in line for a huge payday for sitting out. 

Better write that required bowl participation into that NIL contract if that's important to IU (and it should be).

[Lebowski]

23 minutes ago, Artie86 said:

I was just coming to post a similar thing...... It's so frustrating that players "bail" on a team at the end of the season, especially if they qualify for a bowl. It really cheapens the the team and the bowl. I mean, these bowls are shelling out a decent amount of money for these teams to come play in their bowl. In the end some of these team's key players "pass" on thier team's invite and then look and play nothing like they did during the season.  Every team goes into the season with hopes to make a bowl...... It just baffles me.

Every team goes into the season with hopes to win their conference and make it in the CFP. It's been that way for like, 10 years. Bowls are no longer cherished anymore. Not to mention, bowls are saturated and have been for a long time. Since the concept of the CFP a non CFP bowl game is basically the NIT. 

Players understand this, because the goal is to get to the CFP. 

But I do understand your point and for me personally, I'm looking forward to the day IUFB wins a bowl game. It's been a long long time. 

[RoadRage]

16 minutes ago, tyappleg said:

There is a current QB on the IU team that just won the Heisman Trophy who also "bailed" on his team.   It's not 2004 anymore.  Getting injured in a bowl game can literally cost some of these guys 3 million dollars.  I dont really blame anybody in line for a huge payday for sitting out. 

You're talking about Cal I hope!

[Pagoda]

4 hours ago, Demo said:

At this point, Cig has more collateral than maybe any coach, ever. He could bring in this dude to play QB and I’m just gonna say ok, brilliant move Cig.

I'd say he embodies the mantra: "Every play has a life and history of its own. Not affected by success, not affected by failure."

[AZ Hoosier]

1 hour ago, Artie86 said:

....good point! I guess the bowl representatives know what they're getting into. Maybe there are just too many "watered down" bowls, I don't know. 

And it all started with the professional sports' all-star/pro bowl games.

[Hovadipo]

https://jmusports.com/sports/football/roster/joseph-simmons/22634

In the portal. I know a few guys who would know if he's cut out for this level.

[rcbowla]

54 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

https://jmusports.com/sports/football/roster/joseph-simmons/22634

In the portal. I know a few guys who would know if he's cut out for this level.

And his dad played at IU. This kinda has IU written all over it