Transfer Portal w/IU Interest

[tyappleg]

5 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Cade Tyson is in the portal.  We aren’t adding this level of recruit anymore, but man, he’d be a great fit. I think the Staff wants Sisley to be what Cade Tyson is.  I guess we will see. 

Cade Tyson also can no longer play basketball in college as it currently stands. 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Just now, tyappleg said:

Cade Tyson also can no longer play basketball in college as it currently stands. 

Ah, one of those. I see. 

[RaceToTheTop]

13 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Cade Tyson is in the portal.  We aren’t adding this level of recruit anymore, but man, he’d be a great fit. I think the Staff wants Sisley to be what Cade Tyson is.  I guess we will see. 

If there was ever a testament to how bad of a coach Hubert Davis was, look what Tyson did the one year he was there.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

14 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

If there was ever a testament to how bad of a coach Hubert Davis was, look what Tyson did the one year he was there.

No doubt

[AH1971]

Not sure what he’s looking for in his 4th school in 4 years, but he would be a decent get for a 13-15 mpg big off the bench which has pretty much been his career role to date. Believe Woodson and staff may have pursued him at one point or another but could be misremembering. Think he was teammates with Mgbako somewhere along the way.

[ronzo4IU]

These last three players that get signed to fill out the roster I think is going to be crucial to the success of this team this year.
I don’t really look at them as end of the bench pieces.

I think our freshman class coming in will be that.

These next three players need to be very good rotational pieces as we all know the big10 season is a grind and if we go dumpster diving, we’re in trouble.

[str8baller]

8 hours ago, ronzo4IU said:

These last three players that get signed to fill out the roster I think is going to be crucial to the success of this team this year.
I don’t really look at them as end of the bench pieces.

I think our freshman class coming in will be that.

These next three players need to be very good rotational pieces as we all know the big10 season is a grind and if we go dumpster diving, we’re in trouble.

More than likely the top 3 signings in Burton, Sherrill, and Yugi/Lindsey will be more crucial to our success than the last 3. 

[ronzo4IU]

4 minutes ago, str8baller said:

More than likely the top 3 signings in Burton, Sherrill, and Yugi/Lindsey will be more crucial to our success than the last 3. 

Of course, my point was we still need quality depth in the last 3 signings.

Just hoping we can add playable players that production doesn't fall off a cliff when they sub in.

Edited 5 hours ago by ronzo4IU

[BGleas]

4 minutes ago, str8baller said:

More than likely the top 3 signings in Burton, Sherrill, and Yugi/Lindsey will be more crucial to our success than the last 3. 

You could also make an argument that the real success will be in the middle 3-4 or so guys. 

We probably know roughly what we're getting out of Burton, Sherrill and Yugi, but the difference between 5-8 in conference vs top 3-4 in conference is probably how well Mustaf, Harris and Lindsay or maybe Sisley perform. 

[Stuhoo]

We are looking for a Michael Durr, or if possible, a Sam Alexis comparable to fill out the backup big role. A solid citizen that can defend the post and isn't nervous out there. That's about it I would expect.

[Stuhoo]

1 minute ago, BGleas said:

You could also make an argument that the real success will be in the middle 3-4 or so guys. 

We probably know roughly what we're getting out of Burton, Sherrill and Yugi, but the difference between 5-8 in conference vs top 3-4 in conference is probably how well Mustaf, Harris and Lindsay or maybe Sisley perform. 

100%. And especially because Mustaf and Harris, and maybe Sisley are as talented as our best/proven top three.

Lindsay is more of a known quantity - doesn't seem to have a ton of variability, so our team's ceiling isn't as dependent on how he shakes out.

[ronzo4IU]

4 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

We are looking for a Michael Durr, or if possible, a Sam Alexis comparable to fill out the backup big role. A solid citizen that can defend the post and isn't nervous out there. That's about it I would expect.

I would love another Sam Alexis!

[68Hoosier]

6 minutes ago, ronzo4IU said:

I would love another Sam Alexis!

He would be a perfect option for this team.

[str8baller]

30 minutes ago, ronzo4IU said:

Of course, my point was we still need quality depth in the last 3 signings.

Just hoping we can add playable players that production doesn't fall off a cliff when they sub in.

A backup big is needed just for insurance purposes due to injury. But we could play Sisley at the 4 and probably Mustaf at the 4 in a 4-out situation each about 10-15 min while staggering the bigs and have a perfectly good rotation without adding any additional pieces.  
 

Honestly, absent signing someone like Alexis, we’ll probably be better off staggering bigs and not giving the backup big much run.  
 

The same is likely true of the backup PG slot. We’ll likely slide Lindsey or Alexander-Moody over for 8mpg of backup PG duties unless we find a real gem in the backup PG dept. 

[Artie86]

2 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

100%. And especially because Mustaf and Harris, and maybe Sisley are as talented as our best/proven top three.

Lindsay is more of a known quantity - doesn't seem to have a ton of variability, so our team's ceiling isn't as dependent on how he shakes out.

....I foresee Sisely coming out this year looking more fit with a noticable increase in muscle. jmo

[BA47591]

25 minutes ago, BGleas said:

You could also make an argument that the real success will be in the middle 3-4 or so guys. 

We probably know roughly what we're getting out of Burton, Sherrill and Yugi, but the difference between 5-8 in conference vs top 3-4 in conference is probably how well Mustaf, Harris and Lindsay or maybe Sisley perform. 

Absolutely 

I think there is hope that Harris is the scoring wing with renewed confidence. He's capable of shooting in the high 30's in high volume from deep.  It will allow Coach to continue to run alot of the stuff he's more comfortable with. Sisley is going to be a glue guy small ball 4 and should excel in that role. Mustaf as a versatile defender that can keep the defense honest seems like a good plan for him. Burton changes everything if healthy. There's a world where we're a top 4 team in the Big and another where we creep into the tournament 11-9. 

[CSP]

39 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

We are looking for a Michael Durr, or if possible, a Sam Alexis comparable to fill out the backup big role. A solid citizen that can defend the post and isn't nervous out there. That's about it I would expect.

We'd be damn lucky to get Sam Alexis for the minutes we have available. Michael Durr would be very solid, too. 

I don't think fans are how little we have left to "sell" someone on coming here. 

45 minutes ago, ronzo4IU said:

Of course, my point was we still need quality depth in the last 3 signings.

Just hoping we can add playable players that production doesn't fall off a cliff when they sub in.

In just a very respectful way, I don't agree with this at all. Karvala+Moody I full expect to be in the Top 10/11. And, if they aren't able to do that, I don't know that we scouted all that well. 

[CSP]

16 minutes ago, str8baller said:

A backup big is needed just for insurance purposes due to injury. But we could play Sisley at the 4 and probably Mustaf at the 4 in a 4-out situation each about 10-15 min while staggering the bigs and have a perfectly good rotation without adding any additional pieces.  
 

Honestly, absent signing someone like Alexis, we’ll probably be better off staggering bigs and not giving the backup big much run.  
 

The same is likely true of the backup PG slot. We’ll likely slide Lindsey or Alexander-Moody over for 8mpg of backup PG duties unless we find a real gem in the backup PG dept. 

I can for sure see a need for another 5 AND another 4, and as you mentioned for depth.. I don't think a guard will play much at all, if signed. 

[AH1971]

3 minutes ago, CSP said:

We'd be damn lucky to get Sam Alexis for the minutes we have available. Michael Durr would be very solid, too. 

I don't think fans are how little we have left to "sell" someone on coming here. 

In just a very respectful way, I don't agree with this at all. Karvala+Moody I full expect to be in the Top 10/11. And, if they aren't able to do that, I don't know that we scouted all that well. 

Plenty of frontcourt minutes to sell. Samet and Sherrell aren't playing all 40 minutes. I wouldn't pencil Sisley in for any guaranteed playing time just based on last years play. Sisley will obviously play, but you have potentially 14-18 mpg to sell for the 4 and 5 spot off the bench. 

[CSP]

31 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Plenty of frontcourt minutes to sell. Samet and Sherrell aren't playing all 40 minutes. I wouldn't pencil Sisley in for any guaranteed playing time just based on last years play. Sisley will obviously play, but you have potentially 14-18 mpg to sell for the 4 and 5 spot off the bench. 

That isn't plenty. You don't have to pencil Sisley in for anything, I'm going to for 12-18 a night. 

14-18mpg--- that's on average. When Samet, Sherrell both play 32-33 mins in the big games... that number drops drastically. 

Samet 29

Sherrell 27

Sisley 15

 

That leaves 9 mins..