Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[Dave from Dayton]

It's the age-old issue.  No coach has really had the players with the right skill set to employ in his scheme.

RMK, at the end, did not get his smart, team-oriented, ball players...until the Jeffries team which was too late.

Crean did not get the Dwayne pro or greyhound wing players.  But he did not realize that.

Archie didn't get his stellar guard that he needed.  That and long-limbed defensive oriented team players.

Woody has not gotten his outside-oriented ballers that can create and handle the ball. Where is that PG and SG and Sf?

It is tough to coach a team that doesn't fit.

 

[Chris007]

34 minutes ago, Schreckbagger said:

Try some Preparation H.....

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Do you bring anything to the thread?  Who do you think Woodson gets next?

[Trish]

So what’s the big deal with this Rice kid? He’s shooting 28% from 3, (okay that’s Mike Woodson style I’ll give you that), he averages 3 turnovers a game, but puts up 15PPG in the worst power conference. 
 

He’s listed at 6’3”, that’s ideal. Can he defend? I’m too lazy to pull up Synergy. Indiana needs bodies I guess. 

[bird4par]

38 minutes ago, Schreckbagger said:

Try some Preparation H.....

 

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A gummy helps, but it is still miserable. 

[IUc2016]

1 minute ago, Trish said:

So what’s the big deal with this Rice kid? He’s shooting 28% from 3, (okay that’s Mike Woodson style I’ll give you that), he averages 3 turnovers a game, but puts up 15PPG in the worst power conference. 
 

He’s listed at 6’3”, that’s ideal. Can he defend? I’m too lazy to pull up Synergy. Indiana needs bodies I guess. 

PAC 12 freshman of the year. 1st team all league. 
 

His advanced analytics have been shared multiple times. He’s good, probably very good

[IU - Kaulie]

3 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Do you bring anything to the thread?  Who do you think Woodson gets next?

Unfortunately, I think who he targets/prioritize and who he should target/prioritize are two very different things.

[Chris007]

11 minutes ago, IU - Kaulie said:

Unfortunately, I think who he targets/prioritize and who he should target/prioritize are two very different things.

I agree with that but Conwell has to be next. We need a shooter bad. But I wouldn’t be surprised if the Stanford kid is next. I don’t care what big man we get. I only like the Evansville kid 

[steubenhoosier]

17 minutes ago, Trish said:

So what’s the big deal with this Rice kid? He’s shooting 28% from 3, (okay that’s Mike Woodson style I’ll give you that), he averages 3 turnovers a game, but puts up 15PPG in the worst power conference. 
 

He’s listed at 6’3”, that’s ideal. Can he defend? I’m too lazy to pull up Synergy. Indiana needs bodies I guess. 

He did overcome cancer, so that might have something to do with those stats 

[IUCrazy2]

25 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Do you bring anything to the thread?  Who do you think Woodson gets next?

I think the big guy from Arizona.

[Chris007]

2 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said:

I think the big guy from Arizona.

I will get behind it if it happens but I’m hoping we get out bid by Kansas or UNC

[Uspshoosier]

8 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I agree with that but Conwell has to be next. We need a shooter bad. But I wouldn’t be surprised if the Stanford kid is next. I don’t care what big man we get. I only like the Evansville kid 

Conwell, Evansville kid, whichever big comes first and Hickman along with Rice and we can wrap this thread up in a nice bow.  Leave last one open for a late add 

[Chris007]

4 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Conwell, Evansville kid, whichever big comes first and Hickman along with Rice and we can wrap this thread up in a nice bow.  Leave last one open for a late add 

I would run naked through campus with excitement with that lineup. As I tell my wife don’t worry no one is going to see anything. 
 

No I’m all seriousness that’s a home run for the portal.

[RaceToTheTop]

3 hours ago, Chris007 said:

Also would add how will his numbers change when changing conferences. I don't follow the Pac-12 much but I tend to believe the defense is a little better in the BT

These are the posts I love because #1:  I don't know the answer and #2:  it allows me to try to geek the math and see if there is an answer.

Haven't put the numbers in (about to do so), but my gut says that the past season there was very little difference.  I also think if the difference was minor, you still can expect his numbers to improve next season because of the jump from being a freshman to a sophomore.

Now to run the numbers....

Ken Pom defensive ranks

Big Ten		Pac 12
Rutgers	5	Arizona	10
Michigan St	9	Washington St	26
Purdue	12	Utah	47
Maryland	14	Colorado	49
Nebraska	43	UCLA	50
Wisconsin	46	Arizona State	64
Northwestern	54	Oregon	70
Ohio St	63	USC	78
Illinois	80	Washington	100
Penn St	81	Stanford	128
Indiana	105	California	139
Minnesota	115	Oregon St	170
Iowa	157	AVERAGE	78
Michigan	182
AVERAGE	69

 

So on average, the Big Ten did rank higher in defensive efficiency that the Pac 12 -- but the difference was not that large (average of 69th in the Big Ten, average of 78 in Pac 12).  

Conversely, what might actually be a concern for numbers have a considerable drop should they come to IU would be transfers from the Missouri Valley Conference:

	MVC
Bradley	62
Drake	73
Missouri St	110
Indiana State	114
Northern Iowa	125
Belmont	130
UIC	135
Illinois St	142
S Illinois	145
Evansville	174
Murray St	188
Valparaiso	276
AVERAGE	140

 

Was interested to see that Indiana State ranked so low.....but having the 13th ranked offense made up for that.

[IU - Kaulie]

7 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I agree with that but Conwell has to be next. We need a shooter bad. But I wouldn’t be surprised if the Stanford kid is next. I don’t care what big man we get. I only like the Evansville kid 

I agree, Conwell is at the top of my wish list.  As much as I want to stock top tier talent, that’s hard to do in this NIL world.  Kids want to go somewhere where they can start and play big minutes and that’s completely reasonable.  So the staff has to prioritize who they go after.

 MM and MR have starting spots locked down and if the Rice rumors are true he has a spot locked down.  Gallo is going to play heavy minutes whether he starts are not.  Tucker is going to play.  The puzzle board starts shrinking.  Nothing Woodson has shown or said suggests he won’t get someone like Ballo/Williams.  As much as I would love to have Rice, Carlyle, Conwell, Hickman, and Humrichous it’s just not realistic.    But yes, Conwell should be first priority.

[RaceToTheTop]

3 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I would run naked through campus with excitement with that lineup. As I tell my wife don’t worry no one is going to see anything. 
 

No I’m all seriousness that’s a home run for the portal.

I think your nakedness is probably going to be safe....I can't see IU adding three guards of that caliber from the portal.  In terms of playing time, trying to work those three + Galloway and adding Tucker, it wouldn't seem to be that the minutes would be there, especially since we can assume MM will be playing mostly the 3.  

Rice is looking good, so to me it looks like the second added guard could be Hickman or Carlyle.  If we added both, I'll join your naked mile through campus but I think the fine folks of Bloomington can be marked safe from that trauma.

[Chris007]

5 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

These are the posts I love because #1:  I don't know the answer and #2:  it allows me to try to geek the math and see if there is an answer.

Haven't put the numbers in (about to do so), but my gut says that the past season there was very little difference.  I also think if the difference was minor, you still can expect his numbers to improve next season because of the jump from being a freshman to a sophomore.

Now to run the numbers....

Ken Pom defensive ranks

 

Big Ten		Pac 12
Rutgers	5	Arizona	10
Michigan St	9	Washington St	26
Purdue	12	Utah	47
Maryland	14	Colorado	49
Nebraska	43	UCLA	50
Wisconsin	46	Arizona State	64
Northwestern	54	Oregon	70
Ohio St	63	USC	78
Illinois	80	Washington	100
Penn St	81	Stanford	128
Indiana	105	California	139
Minnesota	115	Oregon St	170
Iowa	157	AVERAGE	78
Michigan	182
AVERAGE	69

 

So on average, the Big Ten did rank higher in defensive efficiency that the Pac 12 -- but the difference was not that large (average of 69th in the Big Ten, average of 78 in Pac 12).  

Conversely, what might actually be a concern for numbers have a considerable drop should they come to IU would be transfers from the Missouri Valley Conference:

 

	MVC
Bradley	62
Drake	73
Missouri St	110
Indiana State	114
Northern Iowa	125
Belmont	130
UIC	135
Illinois St	142
S Illinois	145
Evansville	174
Murray St	188
Valparaiso	276
AVERAGE	140

 

Was interested to see that Indiana State ranked so low.....but having the 13th ranked offense made up for that.

This so cool. My son loves math and is trying to specialize in sports analytics at IU 

[8bucks]

4 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

For reference. Ware had 63 offensive rebounds. Ballo had 128


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If you cant find shooters, get rebounders!

[Chris007]

4 minutes ago, IU - Kaulie said:

I agree, Conwell is at the top of my wish list.  As much as I want to stock top tier talent, that’s hard to do in this NIL world.  Kids want to go somewhere where they can start and play big minutes and that’s completely reasonable.  So the staff has to prioritize who they go after.

 MM and MR have starting spots locked down and if the Rice rumors are true he has a spot locked down.  Gallo is going to play heavy minutes whether he starts are not.  Tucker is going to play.  The puzzle board starts shrinking.  Nothing Woodson has shown or said suggests he won’t get someone like Ballo/Williams.  As much as I would love to have Rice, Carlyle, Conwell, Hickman, and Humrichous it’s just not realistic.    But yes, Conwell should be first priority.

You seem to always use common sense with your posts, which is odd around here. Agreed the puzzle is getting smaller. 

[str8baller]

1 hour ago, Uspshoosier said:

 

Reminds me of Romeo Langford with how he gets to the rim. Not an Uber athlete but kind of knifes through traffic. 

[IH8PU]

8 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

You seem to always use common sense with your posts, which is odd around here. Agreed the puzzle is getting smaller. 

Hopefully the puzzle with start to fill in the next 10 days .... luckily all this computer time is while it rains for days outside here in "the tropics" of Southern Indiana.