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3 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Not sure where sunshine being pumped is a thing that I'm reading.

Yes ... people really happy about the additions of Ballo, Tucker, Rice, Carlyle, and likely Goode. That's not sunshine pumping; that's acknowledging that those are good additions.

I guess for me the ultimate "sunshine pumping" is when someone says that given these additions, the expectations now are (and I quote) "No more than 3 Bigten losses."

Anyone that thinks that given these player additions we should be at a minimum 17-3 in a P5 conference is way overly-optimistic for me.

I think there's a difference between what should be expected and what is expected. The talent on this roster certainly merits high expectations on its own. However,  there are other factors that can and do lower the expectations for some. 

Posted
4 minutes ago, IUc2016 said:

We are all seeking results, but you can't win games in the offseason. So, what results are you expecting currently?

Most who are "optimistic" are simply enjoying the roster overhaul. Of course there are a few extreme pumpers and extreme dumpers on both ends of the spectrum.

I have seen a large majority excited about the additions, but guarded about what it means for next year (me included). Not sure what else you are looking for at this point.

Go back a page.  I was "attacked" for a "winning the offseason" banner comment.  A joke if you will. 

That's all I am commenting on -- tempering the optimism.  It's great we have new guys, new roster, etc. etc.  But my fear is the new boss is the same as the old boss.  I have been on here saying -- show me, first.  That's all.  Some of you all are insane.  

Posted
1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

I will say some of the people carrying the most water right now were some of the loudest critics back in January. The offseason has been a home run but still a long way to go. 

Yeah there will need to be some good leadership this offseason by the guys returning to help get the new guys up to speed. Atlantis early in the season will let us know where the team is at. 

Posted
6 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Not sure where sunshine being pumped is a thing that I'm reading.

Yes ... people really happy about the additions of Ballo, Tucker, Rice, Carlyle, and likely Goode. That's not sunshine pumping; that's acknowledging that those are good additions.

I guess for me the ultimate "sunshine pumping" is when someone says that given these additions, the expectations now are (and I quote) "No more than 3 Bigten losses."

Anyone that thinks that given these player additions we should be at a minimum 17-3 in a P5 conference is way overly-optimistic for me.

Then what was the fkg point of spending $6 mil.  Just to be mediocre?  

Those are my expectations every year -- I expect to be the best.  Not the dumpster fire we have been.  Mike Woodson himself said "compete for championships."  Well, we're waiting.  Reality is we'll be middle of the pack again, first weekend exit.  

Posted
1 minute ago, Golfman25 said:

Then what was the fkg point of spending $6 mil.  Just to be mediocre?  

Those are my expectations every year -- I expect to be the best.  Not the dumpster fire we have been.  Mike Woodson himself said "compete for championships."  Well, we're waiting.  Reality is we'll be middle of the pack again, first weekend exit.  

Hey; you expect us to be 17-3 in conference this year and I am much more negative.

I'm okay with your sunshine pumping; that's all I'm saying.        ;)

Posted
3 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

Go back a page.  I was "attacked" for a "winning the offseason" banner comment.  A joke if you will. 

That's all I am commenting on -- tempering the optimism.  It's great we have new guys, new roster, etc. etc.  But my fear is the new boss is the same as the old boss.  I have been on here saying -- show me, first.  That's all.  Some of you all are insane.  

Not sure why it's your job to temper anything? As far as the "joke if you will", you're making the same snide remarks in every thread, about every other post, gets very old. Go to the Complain here or Fire Woodson thread and kvetch to your heart's content. It's really difficult to keep any positive attitudes when people feel it's their responsibility to bring them down

Posted
2 minutes ago, mamasa said:

Not sure why it's your job to temper anything? As far as the "joke if you will", you're making the same snide remarks in every thread, about every other post, gets very old. Go to the Complain here or Fire Woodson thread and kvetch to your heart's content. It's really difficult to keep any positive attitudes when people feel it's their responsibility to bring them down

Get over it.  Make a sunshine pumpers only thread then.  

Posted
3 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Hey; you expect us to be 17-3 in conference this year and I am much more negative.

I'm okay with your sunshine pumping; that's all I'm saying.        ;)

Do we or don't we want to compete with the best programs out there?   If we do, then we better set our expectations at their level.  

Posted
Just now, btownqb said:

That's what you think, correct. 

It's just trying to shove it down other's throats, in EVERY thread, EVERY day, that's gotten a little overboard. I feel like there are two-three threads flat-out dedicated to taking sh*ts on Woodson, staff, and whoever else to suffice some on here's constant need to poop on things. Just do your pooping there, mercy, is that all that hard of an ask? 

In summary; "Only poop in the toilet."

Posted
2 minutes ago, btownqb said:

That's what you think, correct. 

It's just trying to shove it down other's throats, in EVERY thread, EVERY day, that's gotten a little overboard. I feel like there are two-three threads flat-out dedicated to taking sh*ts on Woodson, staff, and whoever else to suffice some on here's constant need to poop on things. Just do your pooping there, mercy, is that all that hard of an ask? 

I said one fkg thing about "winning the offseason."  You guys need jobs.  

Posted
1 minute ago, Golfman25 said:

Do we or don't we want to compete with the best programs out there?   If we do, then we better set our expectations at their level.  

1) Yes.

2) Probably best to state that in the "Expectations for 24/25 Season" thread.

Posted
11 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

Go back a page.  I was "attacked" for a "winning the offseason" banner comment.  A joke if you will. 

That's all I am commenting on -- tempering the optimism.  It's great we have new guys, new roster, etc. etc.  But my fear is the new boss is the same as the old boss.  I have been on here saying -- show me, first.  That's all.  Some of you all are insane.  

Your comment said nothing about winning the offseason, only suggested that we may be "locked out" of in-state recruiting (at a time when we are involved with multiple in-state prospects). People are tired of digs from fellow fans and that goes both ways, not sure why you're surprised your joke did not land. Nobody wants to get flak for rooting for their team, whatever that looks like to them. Virtually all of us feel the same way you do (show me first) yet do not feel the need to reduce every conversation to "bUt MiKe WoOdSoN" 

There is a thread for tempering optimism or even downright negativity, not this one though. 

Stuhoo has already unpacked how you're "misreading the room" with your "tempering optimism" ... but yeah, some of all the other posters are the insane ones (just like some of all the college professors ;) 

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