Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[Uspshoosier]

Just now, AH1971 said:

Another poster who doesn’t understand what inside-out means. But that’s ok, I’ve come to expect it from a select few.

Unnecessary added words to the overall point you were trying to make which was a nice assessment of the guard situation last year 

[Trish]

Just now, AH1971 said:

Give me inside-out with competent guards all day long. Another poster who doesn’t understand what inside-out means. But that’s ok, I’ve come to expect it from a select few.

Now this is funny! 

Rice is an upgrade from Johnson and Cupps. We’ll see exactly how the guards are utilized with Malik and Ballo taking up the majority of the possessions. 

[Golfman25]

7 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Just can’t imagine a world where an IU fan thinks turning down a 1st team PG from a P5 conference is the right move. It blows my mind actually. 

Because they both can't hold the ball at the same time.  IU desperately needs a kid that can shoot them back into a game.  

[AH1971]

3 minutes ago, Trish said:

Now this is funny! 

Rice is an upgrade from Johnson and Cupps. We’ll see exactly how the guards are utilized with Malik and Ballo taking up the majority of the possessions. 

If they prove to be any good we’ll have quite the offense.

[Golfman25]

7 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Give me inside-out with competent guards all day long. Another poster who doesn’t understand what inside-out means. But that’s ok, I’ve come to expect it from a select few.

You may want to find out from Woodson what "inside-out" means because he sucks at it.  

[Jam]

16 minutes ago, IH8PU said:

No chance of that happening.

I don’t know anything, but if supposedly Rice and Carlyle were done deals for a week or so, it seems unlikely to be hosting Hickman and trying to get a Conwell visit, if they didn’t want another guard.

[Uspshoosier]

7 minutes ago, Trish said:

Rice is an upgrade from Johnson and Cupps

When he first entered the portal and National services and talent evaluators were doing their scouting reports most basically said this kid would  have his pick at where he would go and that he could play anywhere.  I’m no talent evaluator but I watch a ton of college basketball and every time I watched Washington St play I always ask myself how in the world did Washington St get a kid like this and wished a team I was invested in had a guard like him.   Now I get to see how that will go next year 

[CSP]

35 minutes ago, JF87 said:

I'm not as optimistic as some of you.  In the game today, I assume all players negotiate dollars and roles. Tucker was a 5-star, one and done player going to the G-league.  Unless money is his only priority, I can't see him coming to a losing team that missed the Tournament without being promised significant minutes or a starting role.  I'm sure that Cupps was told his minutes would be reduced from this year, but I would have to assume he was told 4-5 minutes per half at least.  If not, why would he return?  Leal was a solid contributor defensively during our 5 game win streak.  I have to believe that Leal was offered similar minutes to return as well. 

Tuckers dad, verbatim, this week, said one and done is NOT their set in stone route. Just watching him, regardless of people thinking he should be a MCDAA, doesn't show "sure fire Pw5 starter on a good team from Day 1". IMO significant mins is 12-18 mins a night on a good PW5 team. 

I assume Gabe Cupps wasn't told a thing about the exact mins he'd play next year, there's zero chance in knowing that 8 months away. I doubt Leal was spoken to at all about any guaranteed mins. 

[AH1971]

Just now, Golfman25 said:

You may want to find out from Woodson what "inside-out" means because he sucks at it.  

The “out” version is reflected when you have guards who can’t make shots. But you knew that already.

[Banksyrules]

5 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Unnecessary added words to the overall point you were trying to make which was a nice assessment of the guard situation last year 

See what I mean? Back handed insults. First sentence perfectly fine.

[dwtaylor1055]

32 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Just wanted to add a comment on the bag dropping.

Id recommend the fanbase not villainize the bag dropping from Indiana but instead be happy we can win bag drops now. 

its been going on for eternity in college basketball and for the most part those dropping the biggest bags are winning the most games. 

I can pretty much assure you if we stop dropping bags the fanbase will have a lot more to worry about than we already do.

id recommend embracing it and just leaving it out of the equation. It’s been a part of high level recruiting forever and now it just expands into mid level recruiting as well. 

Be happy we can compete in that for now and cross your fingers the staff uses its salary cap wisely. 

100% - now we just have to compete on the court.

[dwtaylor1055]

The weather is amazing today - some of y’all should get out, enjoy and revisit the board later this evening. 

[CSP]

7 minutes ago, Trish said:

Now this is funny! 

Rice is an upgrade from Johnson and Cupps. We’ll see exactly how the guards are utilized with Malik and Ballo taking up the majority of the possessions. 

Why would Ballo take up possessions? We should continue to play through Malik-- his efg% was higher as a SO than TJD was as a SR. 

[Trish]

1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

When he first entered the portal and National services and talent evaluators were doing their scouting reports most basically said this kid wild have his pick at where he would go and that he could play anywhere.  I’m no talent evaluator but I watch a ton of college basketball and every time I watched Washington St play I always ask myself how in the world did Washington St get a kid like this and wished a team I was invested in had a guard like him.   Now I get to see how that will go next year 

I’m sort of surprised he didn’t follow his coach to Stanford. Perhaps it was his grades? 
 

I’ve talked to people who have had to scout against Rice, apparently he’s going to be a solid get for Indiana. I imagine he’ll start from Day 1.

 

[AH1971]

Just now, btownqb said:

Why would Ballo take up possessions? We should continue to play through Malik-- his efg% was higher as a SO than TJD was as a SR. 

These guys don’t know what they’re talking about it. Leave them be.

[Uspshoosier]

1 minute ago, AH1971 said:

The “out” version is reflected when you have guards who can’t make shots. But you knew that already.

Last sentence was unnecessary.  The inside doesn’t work unless you have a willing passers and knowing when and how to pass out of a double team.  If IU going to run back that offense the post players will need to do a better job of passing out of the post unlike times last year where it never made it back to the out part of the inside-out 

[Demo]

2 hours ago, btownqb said:

Absolutely cannot play Power 5 basketball with Humrichous and Reneau at the 4 and 5 for long stretches. 

You may be generous here. Not sure you can even do it for short stretches. 

[Golfman25]

4 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

The “out” version is reflected when you have guards who can’t make shots. But you knew that already.

Which is what he is looking at now, hoping they can make "the jump" as a sophomore.  

[Trish]

1 minute ago, btownqb said:

Why would Ballo take up possessions? We should continue to play through Malik-- his efg% was higher as a SO than TJD was as a SR. 

Woodson recently said the game is played inside - out. Ballo is huge, he’s going to seal his guys early and often. If Malik can step outside an hit a 3 that will be great. But Ballo is layups, dunk-ins, and rebounds. He’s going to be the first if not second option next season. 

Assuming he comes to Indiana. 

Indiana will likely pound the inside with Malik and Ballo. Guards will need to be able to hit the 3. 

[AH1971]

1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

Last sentence was unnecessary.  The inside doesn’t work unless you have a willing passers and knowing when and how to pass out of a double team.  If IU going to run back that offense the post players will need to do a better job of passing out of the post unlike times last year where it never made it back to the out part of the inside-out 

It’s not unnecessary when you’re responding to somebody being purposely obtuse. If you think “inside-out” is a concept used exclusively by Woodson you shouldn’t be allowed to comment on a college basketball message board.