They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[IUFAN1976]

2 minutes ago, mdiu28 said:

As someone who owns 3 businesses built from the ground up, now with over 40 employees - I fully EXPECT my employees to tell me when I'm doing a **** job or making **** decisions. I welcome it. You can't succeed in this life if you can't handle criticism. In fact, we have meetings on Monday and Friday to do this very thing - criticize and brainstorm how the week went and go over the **** decisions I made (I make a lot of them). 

If I ever acted like Mike Woodson and blamed our customers (the way he blames fans), I'd expect to be put out of business with 24 hours.

Woodson is a punk and Anthony Leal is right behind him. I fully appreciate the players defending their coach (everyone who ever played for him, including Carmelo Anthony, loves Woody) but what has he actually won? NOTHING. To come after the fans - the man is destroying his legacy. He's now put himself in a position where it's win or **** off and blame someone else for sucking at your job. What a loser.

Bravo!  Bravo!!!!  That was said perfectly!  Exactly how a President, CEO, Plant Manager, CFO, and a head basketball coach should act.  We are stakeholders and we are customers and he is providing us a defective product.  

[Demo]

Yes, Woody should absolutely emulate RMK’s deep respect for his critics. 

[IUCrazy2]

14 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

You may be mistaking what I’m saying.

Not that the season is a success or that Woody is the answer.

But that a coach who’s been left for dead, then wins four in a row, and then is kinda salty about it is ….

normal.

He went 10-10 in a bad Big Ten.  I mean, yeah you are 450 pounds and you just had a heart attack but didn't die.  I just think saying "See, stop talking about how unhealthy I am" to your doctor who has been saying your diet could kill you is really the route to go.

[gohoosiers97]

I can only go by what I saw on tv today but it sure looked like SSAH was full and rocking 

It was rocking. What a fun game!


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[Banksyrules]

1 minute ago, Demo said:

Yes, Woody should absolutely emulate RMK’s deep respect for his critics. 

Are you comparing Knight (three Nats and a bunch of big ten titles) with Woodson? Eh tu Demo?

[Trish]

Woodson was awfully cocky for beating 4 teams .500 and below the last two weeks while losing his top recruit. 
 

Heck of a job coach! 

[Stuhoo]

13 minutes ago, steubenhoosier said:

I have been on this board for almost 3 weeks. I can’t recall you saying one thing positive about IU basketball. Not just on this thread about the coach, but any thread.

Surely, there is somewhere in the past where you supported IU 

Welllllllll…….

He’s no less positive than Hornsby! 
So there’s that.

[Trish]

Just now, Stuhoo said:

Welllllllll…….

He’s no less positive than Hornsby! 
So there’s that.

Give me credit. It’s me and Loaded Chicken holding down the positive train. We’re doing our jobs over here, similar to Mike Woodson’s job performance. 

[Hornsby]

Woodson was awfully cocky for beating 4 teams .500 and below the last two weeks while losing his top recruit. 
 
Heck of a job coach! 

They are a combined 37-42 in the big ten but he did his job.

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[mamasa]

1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

Let’s have a show of hands!

*How many of you were turned off tonight that weren’t already irreversibly turned off by Woody?*

Me for one. I wanted him out as a coach, still had respect for the player and man. He deliberately divided the fans and used gaslighting to make himself the victim. The fans that were left reminded me of a political rally (any fervent rally will do)- you play to the questionless, blindly loyal fans and make them seem like the are the only ones who matter, then try to make them appear are the “average normal typical” fan. It pits the fan base against each other. Woodson’s arrogance really put me off any positive feelings towards him. Honestly thought Leal came off as petulant, and he’s one of my favorites. 

[Hornsby]

Give me credit. It’s me and Loaded Chicken holding down the positive train. We’re doing our jobs over here, similar to Mike Woodson’s job performance. 

Stuhoo is on ignore for me now so he can trash me all he wants I won't see it

 

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[IUFAN1976]

9 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

Yes act like your disappointed so far but have faith we will win the big ten tournament. He'll apologize for failing so far. Not divide the fanbase. To think a knight player is crying about disappointed fans is beyond laughable. Shouldn't Woodson be kicking **** and throwing stuff around to show he is upset lol

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Maybe a chair!  Especially if play Purdue again! 

[coonhounds]

Here is where we are in iu basketball. The big pr move to get the fans excited was leal and trey announcing they aren't done and are coming back! Now go back in your memory and think of previous were returning announcements. Where does gallo and leal stack up? You would have though it was tjd or calbert or dj white up there. I am truly happy they are coming back but hype train I am not

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[Trish]

1 minute ago, Hornsby said:

They are a combined 37-42 in the big ten but he did his job.

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He did his job and he is the coach here, understand that. PARTNER! 

[Stuhoo]

2 minutes ago, Banksyrules said:

Are you comparing Knight (three Nats and a bunch of big ten titles) with Woodson? Eh tu Demo?

Nope. Responding to one of the posts which said Woody was the worst, most horrible and insulting thing EVER!

[steubenhoosier]

7 minutes ago, mdiu28 said:

As someone who owns 3 businesses built from the ground up, now with over 40 employees - I fully EXPECT my employees to tell me when I'm doing a **** job or making **** decisions. I welcome it. You can't succeed in this life if you can't handle criticism. In fact, we have meetings on Monday and Friday to do this very thing - criticize and brainstorm how the week went and go over the **** decisions I made (I make a lot of them). 

If I ever acted like Mike Woodson and blamed our customers (the way he blames fans), I'd expect to be put out of business within 24 hours. You don't attack those that feed you. You can handle criticism by either:

1) listening and realizing you could be better and adapt

2 ) getting defensive and assigning blame elsewhere

Woodson chooses #2 every single opportunity he gets including tonight during his speech.

Woodson is a punk and Anthony Leal is right behind him. I fully appreciate the players defending their coach (everyone who ever played for him, including Carmelo Anthony, loves Woody) but what has he actually won as a coach? NOTHING. To come after the fans - the man is destroying his legacy. He's now put himself in a position where it's win or **** off and blame someone else for sucking at your job. What a loser. This is why Woody will, IMO, never succeed in a massive way as a coach. 

You lost me when you called out Leal.

The guy sat on the bench for 3+ years and did nothing but support his teammates. He finally has gotten his chance to play and he has done a serviceable job. In fact I believe he was integral in winning a game. 
 

As a business owner who makes sure that 40 families are able to survive, try to put in perspective that those 40 people would maybe lay on a grenade for you just like Leal has done for his coach. 

 

[Stuhoo]

20 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

Stuhoo is on ignore for me now so he can trash me all he wants I won't see it

 

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So you now won’t see it if I call you “stinky feet?”

Worth remembering.

[IUCrazy2]

5 minutes ago, JimmerNoe said:

I am with you my friend. It is not a good feeling to be dead in the water from a tournament standpoint despite winning four in a row. Only hoping cooler heads prevail and folks can find a way to take some joy from our boys maybe ripping off a few more wins before the 6 month dark times rather than just being angry with our lot. Taking solace that if we had scheduled more trash games (or won the ones we had) and won them by 20 each we would be sitting pretty like MSU with the same record and resume.

I don't consider where MSU is at as sitting pretty either although that would have met my extremely low expectations going into this year.  I just wanted them to make the tournament and then hopefully see something to build on going into the spring.  He failed to deliver on both.  I am expecting more of the same next year.

New development being that this is really my only experience with Woodson and while I was supportive and hopeful he would be a bridge for us after he got hired, now I kind of hate the guy.  Going to be really hard next year because I want to be able to enjoy Indiana basketball again on one hand but I'd really like to see that arrogant prick fail hard on the other.

[mamasa]

48 minutes ago, steubenhoosier said:

Been on multiple IU fan boards.

This is the only one where being a fan for more than 40 years is condescended to. 
Please don’t.

Please understand that much of the financial support for the NIl or through the Alumni Club comes from the “blue haired rah rags.”

How would you like me to stereotype you. The generation that doesn’t know what is going on at the games because you’re too busy looking at your phone?

Wonder if you paid your tuition through school or were you helped by older generations who provided for you. 
 

The blue hairs could be your parents and are most definitely your grandparents. Are you going to typecast them that way?

 

It’s not the length of your fandom tenure that people are looking down upon, it’s your abrasive and condescending style. You’re bitching about stereotypes and then throw out your own. I’ve read your posts for years, you’re not trying to “understand the way things work here”, you’re posting passive-aggressively and people here see thru it

[mdiu28]

7 minutes ago, steubenhoosier said:

You lost me when you called out Leal.

The guy sat on the bench for 3+ years and did nothing but support his teammates. He finally has gotten his chance to play and he has done a serviceable job. In fact I believe he was integral in winning a game. 
 

As a business owner who makes sure that 40 families are able to survive, try to put in perspective that those 40 people would maybe lay on a grenade for you just like Leal has done for his coach. 

 

I also said I fully appreciate the players defending their coach but that doesn't give him the right to attack the fans - the people that feed him. It's unacceptable when the coach does it and it's unacceptable when a player does too. Life is hard, Anthony. Sometimes, especially when you aren't playing well, the fans are going to let you hear it. Take that criticism and get better, not angry or defensive. You end up going down a path that is hard to turn around on.

Now they have to back it up on the court. Something I'm not certain they can do.