They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[AZ Hoosier]

3 minutes ago, Shooter said:

OK, and what will the narrative be if we fire a coach mid-season who is above .500 in conference?

Not really concerned about that. We've been a bad basketball school for 25-30 years... optics are not what we, as a fan base (and them as the administration) should be concerned with. Optics have continued to drive us downward for the past 25-30 years...

 

[TheWatShot]

10 minutes ago, Shooter said:

OK, and what will the narrative be if we fire a coach mid-season who is above .500 in conference?

That we have higher aspirations than simply being above .500 in conference and that multiple 25+ point losses aren't acceptable here. 

[Hoosier DaDa]

22 minutes ago, Shooter said:

Yep, we just saw it last season. IU was 6-10 and staring down one of our worst seasons in modern history. And the team, with nothing really to play for, reeled off 4 straight wins (plus one more in BTT), culminating in Woodson and Leal's triumphant remarks on Senior Night.

At least the hard part of our schedule is staring down at us. Last year’s end of schedule was against the bottom half of the B1G if I remember correctly. If we start reeling games off now, I’ll be pretty happy about it. This year if we win at the back part of our schedule, it’s against good teams and our team will be playing great.  I don’t have much faith in Woodson reeling off games this year.  Hence Fire Mike Woodson.

[Hornsby]

Narrative inception 

What will the narrative be if a coach who gets his @$$ kicked on national television regularly were to retire mid-season for health and/or family reasons? 

Fans booing at home is toxic. It will kill recruiting. It will turn off coaches. You can’t allow that environment for an entire conference season IMO. But he could still definitely end up doing well enough to finish the year IMO.

Students have short memories. Beat northwestern and I doubt they boo next weekend unless Maryland goes up 15. Even though he barely squeaked out a win imo he needed like a four game losing streak to be cut loose mid season. That win saved him.

 

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[Home Jersey]

Just now, Hornsby said:

Students have short memories. Beat northwestern and I doubt they boo next weekend unless Maryland goes up 15.

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Yeah we will see. I don’t think beating NW is a given at all. May not be by Maryland… might need to get embarrassed by Michigan/Purdue before it can be justified internally. 

[Deserthoozier]

2 hours ago, ap2345 said:

IU is going to allow the narrative that Indiana fans are awful to grow if they allow Woodson to coach anymore games at Assembly Hall  

Sadly, this seems to be a key part of the AD administration’s playbook! Strategically dump on fans in season who get extremely frustrated at poor coaching, effort and results as a root cause of the issues…then gaslight with burners turned high during the off season in order to set up false expectations for the coming year in order to cover for their internal administrative ineptitude. Rinse, repeat…the cycle continues.

[J34]

Retire tomorrow after a "great" road win, for health reasons. If the interim turns it around and wins out, he'll take credit for getting them over the hump/OSU. If they continue losing, he was just getting them over the hump/OSU. Win-Win.

I'm in the camp of him not coaching in Bloomington again. His friends and family should not allow him to let his legacy be destroyed. 

[Shooter]

3 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

That we have higher aspirations than simply being above .500 in conference and that multiple 25+ point losses aren't acceptable here. 

Look I was ready to move on last offseason.

My point is, if that poster is concerned about an "IU fans are over the top" narrative, a midseason firing of a coach at 5-3 in the Big Ten won't help that.

[Capt. Crimson]

I don't know how if Woodson is 15-5 (6-3) you can justify firing him mid season. I wanted him fired last season and every day since I determined that I wanted him fired. However, I can recognize the bad optics of firing a coach with that record mid season regardless of who the wins are against. He will either retire mid season for "health" reasons or he'll be let go/retire at season's end. 

 

This might answer that. Lol. 3 of the top 10 losses ever by a head coach at Indiana in a matter of a month.

 

 

 

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[ClarkCoHoosier]

6 minutes ago, J34 said:

Retire tomorrow after a "great" road win, for health reasons. If the interim turns it around and wins out, he'll take credit for getting them over the hump/OSU. If they continue losing, he was just getting them over the hump/OSU. Win-Win.

I'm in the camp of him not coaching in Bloomington again. His friends and family should not allow him let his legacy be destroyed. 

This is what I’ve been telling my husband. If he were coach in this situation I would be strongly urging him to announce his retirement effective immediately. Why go through that again. Because if the next home game goes bad, it could get uglier than it was at the Illinois game. 

[bird4par]

1 hour ago, Hovadipo said:

Hall of Fame performance from Never Been Got Scott today. 

There is only one opinion that matters, Mr Scott.  Always had an I want this, I want that post. 

[go iu bb]

31 minutes ago, Capt. Crimson said:

 

This might answer that. Lol. 3 of the top 10 losses ever by a head coach at Indiana in a matter of a month.

 

 

 

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I don't think that list is complete. It's missing the 50 point, 106-56 beat down IU got at Minnesota in 1994 at the very least.

That said, 3 25+ point losses in a single season is ridiculous. It's even more ridiculous with the preseason expectations of this team based on "winning" the portal.

[Scotty R]

40 minutes ago, Capt. Crimson said:

 

This might answer that. Lol. 3 of the top 10 losses ever by a head coach at Indiana in a matter of a month.

 

 

 

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Is this just home games because I remember us losing by 50 at Minnesota in 1994

[johnsoniu]

52 minutes ago, Capt. Crimson said:

 

This might answer that. Lol. 3 of the top 10 losses ever by a head coach at Indiana in a matter of a month.

 

 

 

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ChatGPT is drunk. We won the UCLA game in 1992. It was the regional finals.

[KNOBYDOX]

I heard our juco coach found out about a job opening in Indiana he wants to interview for.We get bored in south Mississippi.

[Chris007]

Nothing was ever going to happen today because today is the funeral for Calbert dad in Evansville. The staff and Dolson were all supposed to attend. Probably all didn’t ride down together.

[Capt. Crimson]

I don't think that list is complete. It's missing the 50 point, 106-56 beat down IU got at Minnesota in 1994 at the very least.
That said, 3 25+ point losses in a single season is ridiculous. It's even more ridiculous with the preseason expectations of this team based on "winning" the portal.

Yeah it says it might be missing a couple based on data it has access to. Regardless I think it paints the picture.


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[coonhounds]

ChatGPT is drunk. We won the UCLA game in 1992. It was the regional finals.

We won by the margin listed here as a loss lol

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[Scotty R]

10 minutes ago, johnsoniu said:

ChatGPT is drunk. We won the UCLA game in 1992. It was the regional finals.

We also played UCLA in the opening game that year and got blasted 

[HoosierAccipiter]

Just now, coonhounds said:

We won by the margin listed here as a loss lol

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We played them twice that season. IU got throttled in one of the first games of the season, then returned the favor in the regionals.