They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[Brass Cannon]

2 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

These 3 people believe this year was a fluke in the portal, X injury and he deserves a chance to turn it around. He can lose every game but he’s coming back if he wants to.

Ugh

[Alford Bailey]

Will be interesting when we really find out why we didn’t add guards. It was an obvious need. Solely on Woodson? Were there $$ issues? Pressure to not recruit over Galloway and Johnson or just incompetence?

[SamIam]

3 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

These 3 people believe this year was a fluke in the portal, X injury and he deserves a chance to turn it around. He can lose every game but he’s coming back if he wants to.

Is this new info? Did you hear something?

[KNOBYDOX]

Maybe a bottle of wine and a cigar over the hump would help.

 

[Chris007]

Just now, SamIam said:

Is this new info? Did you hear something?

No I’ve been saying this since last Friday. He has the right people on his side and he was promised 4 years.

[Deserthoozier]

1 hour ago, TheWatShot said:

Archie Miller got a ton of mileage out of being Sean Miller's brother. The media loved the idea that two brothers could coach winning college basketball teams and proceeded to blow Archie's success out of proportion. 

This, plus the Miller  pre-NIL ‘recruiting prowess’…it was assumed Archie could swim in the same ponds as Sean did if at an equally historic program — until the cover came off of that ball for Sean — and all of a sudden, being a bro became a major liability v an asset! But, AZ handled the dysfunction time masterfully…and when they were ready, pre-lined up the sourness on Miller, used his issues to limit buyout liability- and already had their guy (Tommy Lloyd) lined up. That kind of maneuvering requires an AD who can play chess and make big time maneuvers (Greg Byrne - now at Alabama, and then Dave Heeke). Neither were AZ guys, just power brokers in major college athletics. Our athletic department comparatively seems to always be run by in-house guys who can’t get out of their own way.

 

[Alford Bailey]

6 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

These 3 people believe this year was a fluke in the portal, X injury and he deserves a chance to turn it around. He can lose every game but he’s coming back if he wants to.

Not at all surprised 

[JF87]

2 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

These 3 people believe this year was a fluke in the portal, X injury and he deserves a chance to turn it around. He can lose every game but he’s coming back if he wants to.

These 3 people probably looked at the first 2 years as successes.  Thus, the unwarranted raise.  Many of us felt like we underperformed in years 1 and 2 based on the talent on the roster.  Evidently, the decision makers are glass half full people when it comes to coach Woodson.    

[AZ Hoosier]

6 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

Will be interesting when we really find out why we didn’t add guards. It was an obvious need. Solely on Woodson? Were there $$ issues? Pressure to not recruit over Galloway and Johnson or just incompetence?

Regardless of the reason, it boils down to incompetence. He didn't allow for the possibility that there would be injuries... and thus, was not prepared for it when it happened.

[AZ Hoosier]

14 minutes ago, SamIam said:

Is this new info? Did you hear something?

@Chris007 has been saying all along that the powers in charge will bring Woodson back if he wants to come back.

To me, that's incompetence at the highest level.

[Brass Cannon]

1 minute ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Regardless of the reason, it boils down to incompetence. He didn't allow for the possibility that there would be injuries... and thus, was not prepared for it when it happened.

We weren’t even that good with him.  Nothing about the first two years showed us that our guard rotation was good enough to compete. 

[AZ Hoosier]

9 minutes ago, Deserthoozier said:

This, plus the Miller  pre-NIL ‘recruiting prowess’…it was assumed Archie could swim in the same ponds as Sean did if at an equally historic program — until the cover came off of that ball for Sean — and all of a sudden, being a bro became a major liability v an asset! But, AZ handled the dysfunction time masterfully…and when they were ready, pre-lined up the sourness on Miller, used his issues to limit buyout liability- and already had their guy (Tommy Lloyd) lined up. That kind of maneuvering requires an AD who can play chess and make big time maneuvers (Greg Byrne - now at Alabama, and then Dave Heeke). Neither were AZ guys, just power brokers in major college athletics. Our athletic department comparatively seems to always be run by in-house guys who can’t get out of their own way.

 

man, I wish we had one of those...

[Unexpectedflash]

This board would probably do a better job than Dolson if he thinks this year was a fluke

[AZ Hoosier]

8 minutes ago, JF87 said:

These 3 people probably looked at the first 2 years as successes.  Thus, the unwarranted raise.  Many of us felt like we underperformed in years 1 and 2 based on the talent on the roster.  Evidently, the decision makers are glass half full people when it comes to coach Woodson.    

But ironically, according to today's radio show, Woodson is a realist. #mindBlown

[AZ Hoosier]

2 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

We weren’t even that good with him.  Nothing about the first two years showed us that our guard rotation was good enough to compete. 

No argument from me... never been a fan of X, his style, his antics and his "leadership".

[IUrocker]

12 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

No I’ve been saying this since last Friday. He has the right people on his side and he was promised 4 years.

So now at this point I wonder if there’s anything that could happen with this season that would make him be fine with just not taking the 4th year even though he knows he’d be able to have it if he wants it…..or if there’s no way he’d entertain that thought process and just want to try to prove this year was some sort of fluke. 

[KYHoosier]

1 hour ago, Scotty R said:

Like who

Sean Miller. He would have UofL back in the top 25 before next season starts too with no rebuild.

Edited February 20, 2024 by KYHoosier

[str8baller]

45 minutes ago, Unexpectedflash said:

I saw someone throw out TJ otzelberger a while ago so i decided to look more into it and im intrigued and he feels gettable. He had top 30 kenpom teams his first two years at Iowa st but that was on the back of top 10 defenses. This year his offense has taken a big leap (kenpom 43) along with a top 5 defense and if that’s sustainable hes exactly what we need. Top 10 recruiting class at Iowa st last year. Only makes 2.5 million and is from Milwaukee. He’s leading the best conference in America this year.

I’ll be curious to see how they finish out. There’s definitely a little time left to improve those metrics. But having your best team’s offense finish up in the 40’s would raise some questions for me.

[Chris007]

5 minutes ago, IUrocker said:

So now at this point I wonder if there’s anything that could happen with this season that would make him be fine with just not taking the 4th year even though he knows he’d be able to have it if he wants it…..or if there’s no way he’d entertain that thought process and just want to try to prove this year was some sort of fluke. 

I think he’s too stubborn to walk away. He knew he was getting 4 years, Dolson knew he was getting 4 years. This is not a money issue. They will sit down at the end of the season to lay out what needs to happen next season. 

[Banksyrules]

As a person who fixes programs for a living this IU administration gets me so annoyed.  They’re not only corrupt but very very stupid .As a person who really likes to try to see the best in people it takes a lot for me to say that.   

What irks me the most is that even through luck they seem to botch the  good things. I was so annoyed about how we let our chance to be a premier baseball program in the big ten  just fly away. We had a new baseball stadium and good enough resources but completely botched the coaching search to succeed Coach Smith.  Could have gotten a SEC stud assistant instead we went nearby to Louisville. 

I fear that this program is also too stupid to realize the women’s team potential to be special if given more resources in NIL funds or specialized resources. Just very annoyed and frustrated.