They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[Rico 3,587]

55 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I mean, the athletic director wanting to move on but not being able to doesn’t inspire confidence. 

It sure as hell doesn't.

[Hornsby 3,870]

It seems like he’s 99.9% gone imo.  Dolson was ready to move on last season. 

And there in lies the problem. The AD is not allowed to make a firing decision it appears.

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[Chris007 62,611]

17 minutes ago, maharkn said:

Moye and fife in the building today, is one of them going to finish this out

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Pretty sure Fife was just taking his high school daughter to the game to see Ju Ju

[Chris007 62,611]

5 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

No chance right now, imo. We are 5-3 and on the bubble. While clearly not good enough, optics won’t be right. Plus, I think we get Malik Back on Wednesday. If we get routed in that game, I guess Woody may opt out of the home game but I just don’t see it.


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I just don’t see us talking to the staff about an interim plan and then we just not do anything. But I’ve been wrong many times before.

[IUHoosierJoe 2,155]

3 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

And there in lies the problem. The AD is not allowed to make a firing decision it appears.

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Where did you hear the AD didn't have control to fire him last year?  From the insiders here?  The same ones that have said he WILL have control this year?

[Chris007 62,611]

4 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

And there in lies the problem. The AD is not allowed to make a firing decision it appears.

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Yeah he is. Pam is ready to move on this time. It’s not just his basketball results this time. There have been other things that the administration is tired of.

[hoosierbannerd 3,542]

Just now, Chris007 said:

Yeah he is. Pam is ready to move on this time. It’s not just his basketball results this time. There have been other things that the administration is tired of.

Shitting on the ladies team? Skipping pressers? His arrogance towards the not "real fans?"....

[Golfman25 6,827]

I won't comment on whether 11-9 or 10-10 in conference gets us in any tournament.  However, as I have said, the math still works and looking at it further, it is a possibility.  Face it, while the offense/defense schemes are dysfunctional, this team does have talent.  Which means when they want to use it, they can probably beat anybody in the Big10.  

"It's hard to win on the road" but they already stole 2 road wins, which is above (admittedly lowered) expectations.  No reason we can't beat NW on the road (we are far superior in talent) and Maryland at home.  Purdue away is an L.  Wisconsin at home is an L -- they have had our number for a while now.  Michigan is beatable at home, but it is a dreaded Sat. morning game -- to me it's a toss up.  I am sure Woodson would like nothing more than to put the kid (and heir apparent) Dusty in his place.  At Mich state is a L.  UCLA is turning out to be meh and Kevin Mick Cronin is melting down.   Should be able to beat them at home.  Purdue at home is a toss up -- but leaning L.  Penn State at home -- already beat them, should be able to squeak one out.  Washington is a bottom feeder, so could pick up another road win.  Lose to Oregon on the road.  Finish up with Ohio State at home -- could definitely win that one.  

So we could be 10-8 without Michigan and Ohio State at home.  Split them an we are 11-9.  Realistically we could be anywhere from 9-11 to 12-8.  

Sorry, but Woodson isn't going anywhere until the rest of the season plays out.  It's just reality folks.  No jumping off bridges please.  :)    

[ap2345 11,349]

2 hours ago, Papacap said:

IU didn’t  fire him last year when we sucked something awful, but will fire him at 5-4 in the Big 10? You serious, Clark?

I am 

[ap2345 11,349]

2 hours ago, TheWatShot said:

If they're that concerned, then the outcome of Wednesday's game shouldn't matter. Typical IU if that's the case. 

While I agree, it’s not that simple 

[Chris007 62,611]

3 minutes ago, hoosierbannerd said:

Shitting on the ladies team? Skipping pressers? His arrogance towards the not "real fans?"....

All that plus a couple issues with some players that I’m not going to get into.

[ap2345 11,349]

9 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I just don’t see us talking to the staff about an interim plan and then we just not do anything. But I’ve been wrong many times before.

Way to much smoke imo

[ap2345 11,349]

Just now, Chris007 said:

All that plus a couple issues with some players that I’m not going to get into.

One of those involve some emails?

[Chris007 62,611]

Just now, ap2345 said:

One of those involve some emails?

that’s probably one of the biggest issues.

[Golfman25 6,827]

9 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I just don’t see us talking to the staff about an interim plan and then we just not do anything. But I’ve been wrong many times before.

No way did they talk to the staff about an interim plan.  These kind of changes don't happen like that.  Even if Dolson tried, the assistants would say: "Mike is the coach and we are 100% behind him.  We are not having his conversation."  Then they would walk out.  Now, once he's let go, then it's every many for himself -- trying to keep their job and angling for the next one.  

[IU - Kaulie 2,101]

21 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

With zero non conference wins and really no wins to date outside of 2 "on paper" wins... Yea I don't see it. We've yet to beat a team that'll actually make the NCAA tourney.

If we were to get to 11, there is going to be some quad one wins included.  10 and we are on the bubble.  11 and it’s automatic.

[IU_FanClub 1,857]

4 minutes ago, ap2345 said:

One of those involve some emails?

There was a bunch of buzz about some Mgbako emails online on Friday but then it went away pretty quick I assumed that was just him liking the fire Woodson instagram post

[Chris007 62,611]

1 minute ago, Golfman25 said:

No way did they talk to the staff about an interim plan.  These kind of changes don't happen like that.  Even if Dolson tried, the assistants would say: "Mike is the coach and we are 100% behind him.  We are not having his conversation."  Then they would walk out.  Now, once he's let go, then it's every many for himself -- trying to keep their job and angling for the next one.  

Well I know for a fact that one staff member did say that. I think one staff member said he would move to be an assistant. Then maybe they know who will be the interim.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 9,310]

4 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

I won't comment on whether 11-9 or 10-10 in conference gets us in any tournament.  However, as I have said, the math still works and looking at it further, it is a possibility.  Face it, while the offense/defense schemes are dysfunctional, this team does have talent.  Which means when they want to use it, they can probably beat anybody in the Big10.  

"It's hard to win on the road" but they already stole 2 road wins, which is above (admittedly lowered) expectations.  No reason we can't beat NW on the road (we are far superior in talent) and Maryland at home.  Purdue away is an L.  Wisconsin at home is an L -- they have had our number for a while now.  Michigan is beatable at home, but it is a dreaded Sat. morning game -- to me it's a toss up.  I am sure Woodson would like nothing more than to put the kid (and heir apparent) Dusty in his place.  At Mich state is a L.  UCLA is turning out to be meh and Kevin Mick Cronin is melting down.   Should be able to beat them at home.  Purdue at home is a toss up -- but leaning L.  Penn State at home -- already beat them, should be able to squeak one out.  Washington is a bottom feeder, so could pick up another road win.  Lose to Oregon on the road.  Finish up with Ohio State at home -- could definitely win that one.  

So we could be 10-8 without Michigan and Ohio State at home.  Split them an we are 11-9.  Realistically we could be anywhere from 9-11 to 12-8.  

Sorry, but Woodson isn't going anywhere until the rest of the season plays out.  It's just reality folks.  No jumping off bridges please.  :)    

If our 11 conference wins are...

Minnesota(sucks)

Rutgers(sucks)

At Penn State(non NCAA tourney team, not as good as thought to be)

USC(not good)

At Ohio State(won't make the tourney likely, not as good as thought to be)

at Northwestern(non tourney team)

Maryland(meh, super bubble, hard to say if they'll make the tourney or not)

UCLA(tourney team? Maybe? Maybe not?)

Penn State

At Washington (terrible)

Ohio State

Yea I don't see those 11 conference wins getting you in. I don't care about what quad wins you have, committee looks at that subjectively enough to know, that isn't a good resume attached to a resume with zero accomplishments in the non conference outside of getting blown out. So I think they have to win 12+ and 1 or more has to be stealing a win over Purdue, Wisconsin or Michigan State.

[IU Prof 2,372]

Winning the following games would get IU to 11 conference wins, but I don't think they'd be in the Dance: @ NW, vs. MD, vs. UCLA, vs. PSU, @ Wash, vs. OSU. 

I know some of those will technically be Quad 1, but by the end of the year the only plausible NCAA teams we'll have defeated would be UCLA and Maryland. I really don't think that's anywhere close to good enough, absent a run to the B1G tourney finals.