They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[68Hoosier]

2 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

Let's discuss the master class the staff is doing with bako shall we? The kid came in as a freshman and had a slow start i will admit but then became a pretty good scorer and player for us last season. He started this season as our best shooter. The point is in a year in a half the staff has taken our best player and virtually made him unplayable by mid season. In s year and a half nobody can get him to play respectable defense? How often does a star player just fade away to the bench in year 2?

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I think some of that is on him.  Athletes with high motors and drive to excel typically don't respond like he is.  He seems very lazy with no real energy.  I watched him early on and he has no motor on defense and only stands in the corner waiting to shoot on offense.  Is that on the coaching staff, yes for leaving him in the game and not letting him know it is not acceptable.  Is it on him to get his mind ready to play yes.  So, I see both being the issue here.  Some kids will respond to coaching some wont.  Some kids don't need a coach to motivate them and some do.  In his case I think it is both.  

[WayneFleekHoosier]

1 hour ago, TTT said:

Coach:  My NIL is better than The Ohio State NIL

Not by a ton. Diebler not getting it done

[bodsbums]

Two things are true:

I am happy that we won the game last night. I will always cheer for my team.

Mike Woodson is still a terrible coach and should be fired. 
 

People thinking last night changes anything with the fundamental problems with IU basketball or Mike Woodson as a coach are just giving a “visceral” response as the infamous Kathy likes to say. A data based assessment on a 4 year body of work makes it clear that he must go. 

[coonhounds]

I think some of that is on him.  Athletes with high motors and drive to excel typically don't respond like he is.  He seems very lazy with no real energy.  I watched him early on and he has no motor on defense and only stands in the corner waiting to shoot on offense.  Is that on the coaching staff, yes for leaving him in the game and not letting him know it is not acceptable.  Is it on him to get his mind ready to play yes.  So, I see both being the issue here.  Some kids will respond to coaching some wont.  Some kids don't need a coach to motivate them and some do.  In his case I think it is both.  

I think the coaches have failed him. The good news is he has found the bench and will probably remain it appears so we got that going

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[68Hoosier]

2 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

I think the coaches have failed him. The good news is he has found the bench and will probably remain it appears so we got that going

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Agreed the coaching has failed him.  They have awarded him for too long for poor performance.

[str8baller]

24 minutes ago, bodsbums said:

People thinking last night changes anything with the fundamental problems with IU basketball or Mike Woodson as a coach are just giving a “visceral” response as the infamous Kathy likes to say. A data based assessment on a 4 year body of work makes it clear that he must go. 

Of course. But it is a testament to social media and our own little bubble we live in that this thread had many of us convinced that if only IU dropped the next couple games Woody would be gone forever and tier-1 coaches would be fighting for the job.  
 

I’m sure it was most likely always going to play out to the end. Dolson has all the data he needs to make a decision. And if it doesn’t happen…welp, that’s IU for ya.  
 

 

 

 

(please tho…fire mike Woodson). 

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

IMO if Calbert had ever desired a head coaching position I think he'd have already been one somewhere.  Also, I don't think he'd accept the job knowing he was replacing his very close friend who was axed.

[Juwan Moye]

37 minutes ago, bodsbums said:

Two things are true:

I am happy that we won the game last night. I will always cheer for my team.

Mike Woodson is still a terrible coach and should be fired. 
 

People thinking last night changes anything with the fundamental problems with IU basketball or Mike Woodson as a coach are just giving a “visceral” response as the infamous Kathy likes to say. A data based assessment on a 4 year body of work makes it clear that he must go. 

Sums up my thoughts as well.

[Pagoda]

8 hours ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

https://x.com/thestateofbball/status/1880449594829717790?s=46

Ooof.  This is cringey.  Just stay home dude.

[Pagoda]

1 hour ago, 68Hoosier said:

Just enough to keep us in Mediocracy land. Scrape by against the bottom to middle half and get destroyed by the good teams. 

The zone of pain.

That win last night probably significantly reduces whatever chance there was at a midseason change.  Woody has demonstrated he can still win games with this team, and while that's a depressingly low bar, it is enough to avoid getting replaced midseason.  This is not enough of a meltdown to replace him.  The next two games are not too hard either.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

That win last night doesn't change a thing.  He's gone.

[coonhounds]

The zone of pain.
That win last night probably significantly reduces whatever chance there was at a midseason change.  Woody has demonstrated he can still win games with this team, and while that's a depressingly low bar, it is enough to avoid getting replaced midseason.  This is not enough of a meltdown to replace him.  The next two games are not too hard either.

It's not fair to say going to northwestern and winning isn't hard. Let's wait and see

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[12345Brad]

4 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

The zone of pain.

That win last night probably significantly reduces whatever chance there was at a midseason change.  Woody has demonstrated he can still win games with this team, and while that's a depressingly low bar, it is enough to avoid getting replaced midseason.  This is not enough of a meltdown to replace him.  The next two games are not too hard either.

I personally don’t think they win at NW.  maybe this win bought him a weekend, but if IU gets buried at NW, it’ll be an interesting couple of days before MD 

[12345Brad]

1 minute ago, 12345Brad said:

I personally don’t think they win at NW.  maybe this win bought him a weekend, but if IU gets buried at NW, it’ll be an interesting couple of days before MD 

Then at Purdue and Wisky.  Two more tough ones after MD. Then Mich and Mich St.  Tough stretch. 

[IUrocker]

6 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

That win last night doesn't change a thing.  He's gone.

I guess it really doesn’t matter either way if he’s 100% gone regardless, but you think it’s most likely gonna not be til the end of the season now or still could be a chance before season ends? 

[Ryno6284]

4 hours ago, hper50 said:

When have we played some pretty good basketball, Mike? I must’ve missed that 

Played pretty well at the palestra! Other than that...I got nothin'

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

9 minutes ago, IUrocker said:

I guess it really doesn’t matter either way if he’s 100% gone regardless, but you think it’s most likely gonna not be til the end of the season now or still could be a chance before season ends? 

I said yesterday I don't think he'll ever coach a game in SSAH again.  

[AZ Hoosier]

9 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

I said yesterday I don't think he'll ever coach a game in SSAH again.  

Absolutely agree. Woodson taking his team to Columbus and beating a 2-4 team in overtime after blowing a 10 point lead with under 4 minutes to go doesn't move the needle at all.

He will be gone before IU plays again at home. Dead. Man. Walking.

[Stuhoo]

19 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

My educated guess/take on the likely scenario?

Woody gets the first road game tonight. If it goes well (a win or a down to the last few minutes loss) he coaches the NW game. If we get blown out tonight it’s over before NW or if we lose both by any amount it’s over after NW.

Absent two really good showings I don’t see how he coaches the home game against Maryland.

For Woody?

Mission accomplished.

[Muskie plays the four]

The neighbor called to talk about the game last night. Then ask if I've seen his goat.