They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

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Good win. Happy for the guys.
Couldn’t help but enjoy the CBS commentary over the B1G network guys.
Saying this in all earnest.
Lots of criticism here regarding the BOT.
I would love to see one of you guys who are their biggest critics run for a trustee spot.
The window is open. You have until April 1 to get your nomination in. Do a search and you’ll see what the criteria are.
Time for one of you to make your mark. Time for one of you to do something about what you’re criticizing.
Good luck. You need 200 signatures among other things. I will be glad to sign for you.

So I have complained about the administration here, so I fall into that category.

Using your logic, am I allowed to complain about President Biden? Or since I’ve never put myself in the race to become president, am I not allowed to complain about him?

I do believe that you’re saying that their job is hard and a lot more to the job than what couch coaches like me even know. That is true. I think complaining about the decisions this administration has made in the past is fair. The bigger the job, the more people will care, the more people that care, more complaining can happen. Part of the job.


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1 hour ago, Chris007 said:

Things can always change that’s what’s scary in all of this. We won’t know anything for almost a month. But Dolson has done the work.

I think Dolson will handle this very well but have you heard if his homework has included more alternatives in case his top guy decides to stay?  

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3 minutes ago, 8bucks said:

I think Dolson will handle this very well but have you heard if his homework has included more alternatives in case his top guy decides to stay?  

You speak like you've been hurt before... excellent question lol

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18 minutes ago, steubenhoosier said:

Good win. Happy for the guys.

Couldn’t help but enjoy the CBS commentary over the B1G network guys.

Saying this in all earnest.

Lots of criticism here regarding the BOT.

I would love to see one of you guys who are their biggest critics run for a trustee spot.

The window is open. You have until April 1 to get your nomination in. Do a search and you’ll see what the criteria are.

Time for one of you to make your mark. Time for one of you to do something about what you’re criticizing.

Good luck. You need 200 signatures among other things. I will be glad to sign for you.

 

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27 minutes ago, Henryville Hoosier said:

Katz thinks winning 2 games in a row is peaking. Lol

Well, for this team.........?

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3 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

 

"I Can't Wait To Start F****n' Hammerin' People!

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1 hour ago, lillurk said:

1. Maybe he wouldn’t!

2. Chris has hinted he was told he’d get 4 years at one point and the entire approach seems pretty near-sighted; he’s not offering many ‘26s or beyond (recall Crean offering lots of underclassmen, for example). The contract sort of implies that, too, even with the raise the buyout/length didn’t change (and buyout drops to 50% remaining $ owed on 4/1/25).

3. I do wonder if at this point he’s realizing the job is a bit different than he anticipated. No one doubts he wants to succeed OR that he loves IU, maybe he rides off into the sunset to spend time with his new grand baby. He could leave on a high note, program better than he found it, and someone else could level it the rest of the way up.

4. I didn’t make this explicit but I would also guess that if he's retained, the offseason conversation this year would make expectations clear, and due to the contract details mentioned above, it gets a LOT cheaper to move on then.

5. next year is also about the time he’d want an extension if he’s gonna continue, as he’d be down to 3 years left on the original 7 year contract. Would guess there’s no such extension forthcoming unless it’s a Harbaugh-in-2020 type thing where it’s actually easier and or cheaper for both parties to move on in the future. (E.g. if IU is 26-5 next year and he doesn’t plan to hang ‘em up, tack on a year or # but do do so with heavy incentives so you’re not paying a guy to retire when you also have to go out to pay his replacement.)

Woodson’s original contract was 6 years @ $3 million a year. I don’t think the $1 million annual raise included an extension of the contract’s overall length, but iirc it did extend the length of the “100% guaranteed” term of the buyout by an additional year.

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6 minutes ago, Banksyrules said:

You speak like you've been hurt before... excellent question lol

Yep. Was all in on the he who must not be named bandwagon. 

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7 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

I have faith in Dolson and President Whitten and if they can get Buckner out of the way I have confidence. To me it was encouraging that at first Coach Cig turned them down but they were willing to go higher on the total compensation.

Whiten vetoed Dolson’s first choice for the football job. It’s good that she doesn’t hate sports like the last President, but I wouldn’t count on her being anything more than a neutral factor when it comes to sports. 

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16 minutes ago, Trish said:

Im not impressed by beating the second worst team in a bad conference. That’s not enough to save your job. Woodson has failed to show any progress as a coach in 3 years. 
 

I have zero confidence he’ll be able to land great portal kids. 

Tbf, we beat the worst team, the 2 nd worst team and the 3rd worst team on the road. Plus we occasionally beat ourselves.  
 

Safe to say we’re the best bad team. 

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12 minutes ago, 8bucks said:

I think Dolson will handle this very well but have you heard if his homework has included more alternatives in case his top guy decides to stay?  

I’ve heard his top guy is a go and his back up was always a yes 

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1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

I’ve heard his top guy is a go and his back up was always a yes 

you're a handsome beast

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1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

I’ve heard his top guy is a go and his back up was always a yes 

schwing...

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4 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I’ve heard his top guy is a go and his back up was always a yes 

I'm not sold on Dusty.  May be great.  May be another fail.  Pearl or bust for me.

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5 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I’ve heard his top guy is a go and his back up was always a yes 

So then really, yeah, who cares what the wins/loses look like the rest of the way. If your top guy is a go then you make the move. 

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17 minutes ago, Herotime said:

IMO Woody leaving with his head held high is part of a best-case scenario. Rattling off a few wins against weaker opponents does NOT buy him more time, but it does allow him to leave on a high-note. 

This. Right. Here. The guy is a legend of the program. One of the greatest IU players ever. As much as some seem eager to, inexplicably, dance on his grave, this is exactly how it needs to go. A dignified retirement with a couple of tourney bids and the gold watch of a respectable end of season stretch. I also want it for the kids. 

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5 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I’ve heard his top guy is a go and his back up was always a yes 

Ok you probably can’t know this but if let’s say Pearl was his top candidate, just to randomly throw a name out, goes to the FF so we think we could still count on him leaving?  

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4 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I’ve heard his top guy is a go and his back up was always a yes 

So Brad and Billy have finally come to their senses? Awesome 

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11 minutes ago, Magisterium said:

but iirc it did extend the length of the “100% guaranteed” term of the buyout by an additional year.

That ain’t nuth’n!

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1 minute ago, Magisterium said:

So Brad and Billy have finally come to their senses? Awesome 

So we’re about to see a bidding war between Stevens and Donovan for Tom Allen’s house. See, the market always comes to you.