Fire Coach Woodson Thread

[Chris007 46,566]

1 minute ago, normandale97 said:

No. But it shouldn't happen. Should put a high character guy like Cheaney in there instead of two low character guys that most people don't respect. 

What you are missing is one is very loyal to Mike and he also doesn't want any park of this dumpster fire

[Scotty R 2,382]

Whoever the next coach is he better do a great job of hiring quality assistant coaches. I don't want 3 guys who are there just to recruit. I want guys who know how to teach the game and can develop players 

[12345Brad 138]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

One option said no thanks and then you go to the assistant who has been on staff the longest

Cheaney made the most sense as he wouldn’t want the full time job anyway.  Makes sense why Dolson asked him first.   Also not surprised he said no. 

[Kentuckysucks 2,483]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

One option said no thanks and then you go to the assistant who has been on staff the longest

The problem is those guys were hired to recruit not coach.

[MTB22 22]

3 minutes ago, normandale97 said:

Cheaney should be the only option considered if a move is made mid-season. You can't put Hunter or especially Rosemond in charge. 

I know this will be a (very?) unpopular opinion, but I would choose Rosemond. Every game I've been to in Woodson's tenure, I've had very good seats and can watch the bench interaction closely.  Rosemond appears to be, by far, the most engaged coach and isn't afraid to get into Woodson. Personally watched him keep Woodson from costing us the St. Johns game in his first season, Woodson was totally discombobulated.  That was actually my first "Oh ****" moment with Woodson, just seems totally lost/confused at times.  If you watch the games that Hunter scouts...those tend to be the ones where we look the least prepared.  

Lastly, Rosemond does seem to be the ONE good recruiter on the team.  The only real successes that I can think of have come from him.  Maybe he can keep the team engaged enough to fight the rest of the season and possibly keep a few around for the next regime.  Just my 2 pennies worth.  

[Chris007 46,566]

Just now, Kentuckysucks said:

The problem is those guys were hired to recruit not coach.

Does it matter at this point

[Pagoda 1,140]

7 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

We’re firing the wrong people.  Probably to make room for more money so the King can have a raise.

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/indiana/2025/01/17/iu-athletics-cuts-25-positions-in-layoffs-as-it-braces-for-ncaa-revenue-sharing-indiana-hoosiers/77775492007/

 

Woody’s $1M raise in 2023 after two years of doing the basics (one tourney win) was nonsense.  It also increased his buyout, though it helps we can pay it out slowly, it’s still more money out the door.

I’m sure Quinn was behind it — more money deposited to Mack Financial.

[JSHoosier 20,601]

2 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

The problem is those guys were hired to recruit not coach.

That's worked out well....

[go iu bb 6,779]

3 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

The problem is those guys were hired to recruit not coach.

An interim coach doesn't have to a good coach.

[Shooter 471]

25 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Not sure if you were here last year but Dolson wanted to move on. Buckner told him he could move on if he got a big name but it couldn't be Pearl, he tried Stevens but he said the timing wasn't right. So he got May, but Buckner said he wasn't a big enough name. Then he pulled the Archie got 4 years so Mike is getting 4 years.

But Dusty knew before talking to Louisville or Michigan that most likely this job was going to be open this year hence the 5 million buyout

I hope you are right. If we end up with a candidate worse than May, our administration is going to be mocked mercilessly (rightfully so).

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 9,482]

7 minutes ago, normandale97 said:

No. But it shouldn't happen. Should put a high character guy like Cheaney in there instead of two low character guys that most people don't respect. 

I'm really confused why we'd want Cheaney in this spot, for a multitude of reasons. 

[Artie86 2,207]

3 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Does it matter at this point

[normandale97 212]

3 minutes ago, MTB22 said:

I know this will be a (very?) unpopular opinion, but I would choose Rosemond. Every game I've been to in Woodson's tenure, I've had very good seats and can watch the bench interaction closely.  Rosemond appears to be, by far, the most engaged coach and isn't afraid to get into Woodson. Personally watched him keep Woodson from costing us the St. Johns game in his first season, Woodson was totally discombobulated.  That was actually my first "Oh ****" moment with Woodson, just seems totally lost/confused at times.  If you watch the games that Hunter scouts...those tend to be the ones where we look the least prepared.  

Lastly, Rosemond does seem to be the ONE good recruiter on the team.  The only real successes that I can think of have come from him.  Maybe he can keep the team engaged enough to fight the rest of the season and possibly keep a few around for the next regime.  Just my 2 pennies worth.  

There has been a lot of talk about morals in this thread. Hard no on Rosemond. Plus, when the scout team makes fun of your scouting ability, probably shouldn't be named an interim head coach. 

[12345Brad 138]

Just now, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

I'm really confused why we'd want Cheaney in this spot, for a multitude of reasons. 

He has no aspirations to be the IU coach.  No risk of them making a run and maybe having to hire him (ie - Texas and O$U).  
 

I assume Ya wants to be a head coach and maybe Hunter has the desire?

[OKHOOSIER 3,145]

1 minute ago, go iu bb said:

An interim coach doesn't have to a good coach.

Yea this one is a silly argument to me. Cal, Ya, Kenya, Big Bird, Cookie Monster, it doesn’t matter who is interim coach. This season is lost, and winning a few extra games doesn’t matter. There is no recruiting class to keep together. I’d guess we are hardly recruiting right now at all anyways. This whole team is probably going to be flushed by the next guy. IDGAF who steers this bus to the finish. 

[MrBBall 155]

14 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

We’re firing the wrong people.  Probably to make room for more money so the King can have a raise.

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/indiana/2025/01/17/iu-athletics-cuts-25-positions-in-layoffs-as-it-braces-for-ncaa-revenue-sharing-indiana-hoosiers/77775492007/

 

This is because of the new salary cap. Tough but way of the world today. 

[ap2345 8,576]

5 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

I'm really confused why we'd want Cheaney in this spot, for a multitude of reasons. 

People don't know any better.

[normandale97 212]

1 minute ago, 12345Brad said:

He has no aspirations to be the IU coach.  No risk of them making a run and maybe having to hire him (ie - Texas and O$U).  
 

I assume Ya wants to be a head coach and maybe Hunter has the desire?

Bingo!

[OKHOOSIER 3,145]

8 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

Woody’s $1M raise in 2023 after two years of doing the basics (one tourney win) was nonsense.  It also increased his buyout, though it helps we can pay it out slowly, it’s still more money out the door.

I’m sure Quinn was behind it — more money deposited to Mack Financial.

That raise was one of the most baffling moves ever made by an athletic department. 

[SlammySammy 129]

If Dolson hires Ya or Rosemond, I am out....after over 30 years....done....