Fire Coach Woodson Thread

[go iu bb 6,083]

5 minutes ago, IUFootballHappyHappyJoyJoy said:

It's like this; football brings more money than basketball.  We get IU to consistent 8-11 wins in football, we get postseason money, and then can feed the basketball program again.  But until then, we need a coach on the court that can, uh, coach.  Woodson is great at recruiting but is so clueless with a clipboard.

 

I know for Indiana purists, this isn't the way, but let's give it a chance.

Woodson isn't great at recruiting. He's okay at throwing stacks of money at transfers without thought of making a cohesive team.

[Pagoda 351]

FB being good is a good thing for BB.  FB is the only sport with a serious ROI.  If FB can take off, our athletic dept revenue will increase significantly, like $10, 20, 30M increases.

BB will be fine, I don't think Cook/Simon are going to abandon it.  Our issue is obviously the terrible coach we have.  We have one of the most expensive rosters in the country and one of the largest budgets to run the program -- we literally cannot give Woodson much more than we have.  And he's managed to completely waste pretty much all of it, honestly it's sort of impressive.

 

[Hornsby 1,931]

It's like this; football brings more money than basketball.  We get IU to consistent 8-11 wins in football, we get postseason money, and then can feed the basketball program again.  But until then, we need a coach on the court that can, uh, coach.  Woodson is great at recruiting but is so clueless with a clipboard.
 
I know for Indiana purists, this isn't the way, but let's give it a chance.

If the cooks and Scott's are hell bent on spending 6 million it should all go to football til Woodson is gone. He should not get a cent.

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[yogisballin 2,341]

On 12/22/2024 at 11:25 AM, Pagoda said:

I’m fine with bball getting a lot of NIL for the new coach.  The new coach, Scott, and donors do need some better procedures in place to avoid doing stuff like paying Leal $400K.  He’s worth half that and the remaining $200K needs to be saved or go elsewhere (other bball players or FB).

Sorry but Leals not worth 200k bub

[JSHoosier 20,232]

16 minutes ago, IUFootballHappyHappyJoyJoy said:

It's like this; football brings more money than basketball.  We get IU to consistent 8-11 wins in football, we get postseason money, and then can feed the basketball program again.  But until then, we need a coach on the court that can, uh, coach.  Woodson is great at recruiting but is so clueless with a clipboard.

 

I know for Indiana purists, this isn't the way, but let's give it a chance.

Woodson is good at short recruitments when he has money to burn. Long term recruitments has been a different story.

[Pagoda 351]

3 minutes ago, yogisballin said:

Sorry but Leals not worth 200k bub

I agree, though it was clearly an off the cuff example for a broader point bub.

[JerryYeagley23 3,628]

Didn’t know exactly where to put this, but this seems as appropriate a place as any. 

Feel free to insert your own details because saying anything more would make this a blatant conversation posted word for word and get me in trouble - but Bryson Tucker is effectively using the rest of the season as a showcase for an SEC team with NIL and a better coach who can get him ready for the league. He’s had it with this program and the staff. 
 

Sad, because promising  five stars aren’t lining up to play for us at the moment to begin with. But fleeing after one year isn’t a good look. 

[Hoosierfanyuh 2,260]

23 minutes ago, JerryYeagley23 said:

Didn’t know exactly where to put this, but this seems as appropriate a place as any. 

Feel free to insert your own details because saying anything more would make this a blatant conversation posted word for word and get me in trouble - but Bryson Tucker is effectively using the rest of the season as a showcase for an SEC team with NIL and a better coach who can get him ready for the league. He’s had it with this program and the staff. 
 

Sad, because promising  five stars aren’t lining up to play for us at the moment to begin with. But fleeing after one year isn’t a good look. 

Feel like we’ll hopefully have a new coach next year anyways so it is what it is at this point 

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23 minutes ago, JerryYeagley23 said:

He’s had it with this program and the staff. 

Hoping beyond hope that one day (in 2025) this administration and bb program can after decades actually get it together.

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27 minutes ago, JerryYeagley23 said:

Didn’t know exactly where to put this, but this seems as appropriate a place as any. 

Feel free to insert your own details because saying anything more would make this a blatant conversation posted word for word and get me in trouble - but Bryson Tucker is effectively using the rest of the season as a showcase for an SEC team with NIL and a better coach who can get him ready for the league. He’s had it with this program and the staff. 
 

Sad, because promising  five stars aren’t lining up to play for us at the moment to begin with. But fleeing after one year isn’t a good look. 

Unfortunate for IU but a smart move for the young man at this moment in time. I’m sure he was expecting to walk into a different situation with our program and nobody wants to have to adjust plans on the fly. He’s had bad luck between the staff here and G League shuttering Ignite last year. He will be fun to watch in a better situation and SEC style of play. 

[Pagoda 351]

29 minutes ago, JerryYeagley23 said:

He’s had it with this program and the staff. 

Join the club Bryson.

This sucks.  He is a good player and seems to be a good kid — reminded me of someone Duke would get.  Unfortunately he gets wasted by our crappy program.

[TheWatShot 14,000]

36 minutes ago, JerryYeagley23 said:

Didn’t know exactly where to put this, but this seems as appropriate a place as any. 

Feel free to insert your own details because saying anything more would make this a blatant conversation posted word for word and get me in trouble - but Bryson Tucker is effectively using the rest of the season as a showcase for an SEC team with NIL and a better coach who can get him ready for the league. He’s had it with this program and the staff. 
 

Sad, because promising  five stars aren’t lining up to play for us at the moment to begin with. But fleeing after one year isn’t a good look. 

It must really suck for Buckner to realize that his boy has literally nothing going for him these days and everyone knows it. I wonder what's going through his mind when stuff like this reaches him (assuming it does)? I'm picturing the dog sitting in the room full of flames thinking everything is fine. 

[Hoosierfan2017 21,432]

40 minutes ago, JerryYeagley23 said:

Didn’t know exactly where to put this, but this seems as appropriate a place as any. 

Feel free to insert your own details because saying anything more would make this a blatant conversation posted word for word and get me in trouble - but Bryson Tucker is effectively using the rest of the season as a showcase for an SEC team with NIL and a better coach who can get him ready for the league. He’s had it with this program and the staff. 
 

Sad, because promising  five stars aren’t lining up to play for us at the moment to begin with. But fleeing after one year isn’t a good look. 

Bringing the red meat to the party right in time for Christmas! 

I dont blame anyone who leaves the program while this staff is in place. Unfortunately, we as fans don’t have that option and have to ride it out. 

[Pagoda 351]

7 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

It must really suck for Buckner to realize that his boy has literally nothing going for him these days and everyone knows it. I wonder what's going through his mind when stuff like this reaches him (assuming it does)? I'm picturing the dog sitting in the room full of flames thinking everything is fine. 

I think he sees his pal getting $4.2M/yr direct deposited to Mack Financial where he is a partner.  They're probably planning their next real estate deal together.

As for the results, I would guess he rationalizes it by blaming the program (compares Woody to Archie or something like that, and thinks about those two tourney appearances).  He's pretty insulated from IUBB, so he can stick his head in the sand or do the dog in room of flames thing and get away with it.

 

[Pagoda 351]

9 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Bringing the red meat to the party right in time for Christmas! 

I dont blame anyone who leaves the program while this staff is in place. Unfortunately, we as fans don’t have that option and have to ride it out. 

No transfer portal for us, the fans.  :(

[JSHoosier 20,232]

53 minutes ago, JerryYeagley23 said:

Didn’t know exactly where to put this, but this seems as appropriate a place as any. 

Feel free to insert your own details because saying anything more would make this a blatant conversation posted word for word and get me in trouble - but Bryson Tucker is effectively using the rest of the season as a showcase for an SEC team with NIL and a better coach who can get him ready for the league. He’s had it with this program and the staff. 
 

Sad, because promising  five stars aren’t lining up to play for us at the moment to begin with. But fleeing after one year isn’t a good look. 

Can't say I blame him, many of us have had it with this staff too.

[HoosierHoopster 6,983]

Christmas / New Years present suggestion for @Stuhoo!

Someone (anyone) get Woody fired by the New Years, and I will:

1) throw my percolator in the trash, and

2) bow down before Stuhoo as the Coffee God of Indiana, the Maker of Java, the Bean Buddha

Motivation...

[Hornsby 1,931]

I think he sees his pal getting $4.2M/yr direct deposited to Mack Financial where he is a partner.  They're probably planning their next real estate deal together.
As for the results, I would guess he rationalizes it by blaming the program (compares Woody to Archie or something like that, and thinks about those two tourney appearances).  He's pretty insulated from IUBB, so he can stick his head in the sand or do the dog in room of flames thing and get away with it.
 

Yep. Quinn likely thinks he he doing his job and deserves being the 13th highest paid coach in the nation.

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[MikeRoberts 7,013]

It’s all a moot point with Tucker and anyone else that we might want to keep in the program.

the new coach is going to have to recruit them to stay and maybe he is successful, maybe he isn’t but regardless our team will be mostly new next year and that is a good thing

[bigrod 2,871]

1 hour ago, JerryYeagley23 said:

Didn’t know exactly where to put this, but this seems as appropriate a place as any. 

Feel free to insert your own details because saying anything more would make this a blatant conversation posted word for word and get me in trouble - but Bryson Tucker is effectively using the rest of the season as a showcase for an SEC team with NIL and a better coach who can get him ready for the league. He’s had it with this program and the staff. 
 

Sad, because promising  five stars aren’t lining up to play for us at the moment to begin with. But fleeing after one year isn’t a good look. 

Maybe he'll stay after the new coach/staff is announced.