Fire Coach Woodson Thread

[AH1971 1,448]

3 minutes ago, Banksyrules said:

it's not the debate that's annoying, it's the back handed insults.  Stuhoo argues but he does so in good faith.

I didn’t realize that saying needing better guards was such a highly debated topic. Forgive me.

[tyappleg 3,012]

1 minute ago, AH1971 said:

I didn’t realize that saying needing better guards was such a highly debated topic. Forgive me.

Fire Mike Woodson!

[Hornsby 1,703]

These burner accounts really are the absolute worst. IU, winning the offseason once again! 
Woodson barely has anything to do with IU *potentially* landing these portal players anyway. They’re coming here because IU will pay them the most, which is happening because Woodson’s buddies gave more NIL money. He probably doesn’t even remember the players’ names. 

Feels like half the twitter burner posts all refer to wookson cooking. They all seem very similar

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[HoosierTrav 7,828]

6 hours ago, Banksyrules said:

For the first time in 40 years we actually have good management that won't fall for that trick. Cmon guys you all secretly want  OG Anunoby to get his well deserved ring.... 

Lifelong Pacers fan here. I don’t care if the entire 2013 Indiana Hoosiers roster played for the Knicks….. I’d have to root for them to lose. 

[rcbowla 7,060]

1 hour ago, Home Jersey said:

Again, I ask, are you unable to read? I will go back to ignoring you but you just continuously show yourself to be a troll. 

You probably shout at the top of your lungs in restaurants or play videos on your phone on full blast. 

Time and a place for everything... this is not the place, nor the time. Plenty of other threads for it. 

Refer to the video linked above please

I'm telling you guys, it's a relay race at this point. As soon as one poster drops off here comes the next carrying that baton. I don't think it's coincidence.

[HoosierAloha 30,058]

Where to start with all this nonsense..

 

Can’t believe people’s number 1 concern last offseason was shooting. My number 1 concern was coaching. We could have done more with the roster we had which is true for previous seasons too.

 

On the topic of offseasons, looks like we’ve entered our most successful season of the year. Get the banners ready boys!

 

We need many things including players and coaching who understand spacing. While that’s extremely important, we leaders on the court and sidelines badly.

 

How many times have we led for a recruit thinking we had them in the bag only to watch them go elsewhere? Imaginary lineups are fun but maybe we sign those portal players, get them on campus, and have an off-season with much less yapping and a lot more leading to improve themselves and the team.

 

Super happy to have TJD and JHS get drafted last season and hopefully Ware this season. I’m more concerned about how players impact IU winning games. We’re like a Cal-at-pUKe-lite getting players drafted but haven’t don’t ****-for-all to improve the IU program.

 

BS isn’t coming to IU until we have better administrators. Not sure how this has changed over the last few years

 

You would think with how the program directs all the trolls with burners they could do better directing what truly matters but here we are

 

 

[Bankshot 544]

5 hours ago, Chris007 said:

Yes for sure. Quinn would send his buddy to retirement for Brad.

Ok. I understand the focus of this thread is on firing Woodson, but if I’m following correctly, Chris has been dropping some bombs in here that haven’t gotten much discussion. And these are new things I have not heard before.

What I think I saw was:
- There’s a possible to real chance that Brad Stevens could return to college coaching, perhaps at IU

- He may have told Indiana to “keep in touch with me, and I’ll let you know if the time is right”.

- Success by the Celtics could help this along, perhaps soon.

- Even though Woodson has Buckner’s (and boosters) strong support, if Stevens wanted to come, we would make that move.

Did I glean or interpret that right? If that’s correct, that seems huge!

 

[AZ Hoosier 6,800]

3 hours ago, AH1971 said:

I think it’s entirely possible to not be happy with how last year went while also acknowledging he’s going to be the coach next season. And rather than dwell and be a miserable person for the next 11 months, actually have articulate dialogue on how things can improve instead of  just “It’S MiKE WOoDSoN……DErrrrrrr”

The best indicator of future performance is past, relevant performance. In 3 years with what ever talent Woodson "recruited" or inherited, he made the play-in game once and got blown out in the round of 64, and then won the round of 64 and got wasted in the round of 32. And then he didn't make the tournament at all this past season. Show me where the "shock and awe" are. 

I hope he gets talent. And then I hope he figures out what to do with it. Just remember, it's one thing to buy a team with the checkbooks of billionaires. It's quite another to coach said team to anything beyond mediocrity. It's Mike Woodson.

[AZ Hoosier 6,800]

4 hours ago, AH1971 said:

Which is why significantly upgrading the back court is imperative lol. What do you think he’s doing right now?

Are you saying that if someone buys Woodson an upgraded back court" he will be able to coach that team to some sort of success?

What is he doing now? I don't know... golfing? smoking a stogie? drinking wine? He hasn't signed a single portal player yet, and wouldn't even be in consideration for any without the Cooks and Simons money. 

[AH1971 1,448]

6 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Are you saying that if someone buys Woodson an upgraded back court" he will be able to coach that team to some sort of success?

We’re about to find out aren’t we?

[Muskie for three 307]

Probably not right thread . Also most likely been asked and answered . But do walk ons receive nil from the collective or whatever you call it . 

[Feathery 4,005]

1 minute ago, Muskie for three said:

Probably not right thread . Also most likely been asked and answered . But do walk ons receive nil from the collective or whatever you call it . 

They can. Michigan football paid a lot of NIL to have an extra 20 players on the roster above the scholarship limit so kids had free tuition and play football. 

[ziggyiu 559]

1 minute ago, Muskie for three said:

Probably not right thread . Also most likely been asked and answered . But do walk ons receive nil from the collective or whatever you call it . 

Walk-ons can receive NIL. There just isn't much reason for it. NIL is simply paying for one's name, image or likeness. Any collective or business or individual can offer money to a walk-on to appear at an event, to promote something on his social media account or to hang his picture on a wall in a living room. They typically don't get much money--if any--because it makes more sense to pay the athletes who make a difference in winning or losing. 

[Uspshoosier 45,527]

6 hours ago, AH1971 said:

We’re about to find out aren’t we?

Maybe for some however for others it might take more then 1 year of success with to change their stance.  Just like for some it wasn’t the 1 bad year that had them upset with Woody but just another thing that added to the frustration.  Any program can have a little success in a  year  but the goal would be to have a coach that can put a program in the best position each year to have sustained success.  South Carolina had a great year last and then lost in the first round and I’m sure their fans loved last year but the goal I’m guessing for them is to follow that up with more success.    Some will need to see more then 1 good year and for some it wont matter if he is successful multiple years they want a new voice regardless.  It takes a coach to have to eat, sleep and breathe college basketball to put a program in the best position to be a winning program.   24/7 

[Dave from Dayton 3,078]

7 hours ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Are you saying that if someone buys Woodson an upgraded back court" he will be able to coach that team to some sort of success?

What is he doing now? I don't know... golfing? smoking a stogie? drinking wine? He hasn't signed a single portal player yet, and wouldn't even be in consideration for any without the Cooks and Simons money. 

To date, 7 of the top 30 players in the portal have signed to new schools.  

Players don't face a firm deadline on when they must commit. Additionally, graduate transfers and players impacted by coaching changes that occur after May 1 will be able to transfer after the deadline. Players who have also entered the NBA Draft will have until 11:59 p.m. Eastern on May 29 to withdraw if they wish to return to college for the 2024-25 season.

I speculate that if I was in the portal, and in the top 30, I would be looking around for a good fit.  No hurry at this juncture. 

A month from now I might just buy season tickets to the IU women's basketball.  Or UD...or Wright State...  definitely not OSU.  

Actually, looking forward to live bands outside in warm weather and fresh air.

 

[IUCrazy2 2,364]

12 hours ago, AH1971 said:

The one year IU had a single good guard they were a top 30 offense.

But yeah, Mike Woodson.

Man, if only Mike Woodson would have had the ability to change that the past three years.  Glad that his luck finally changed miraculously after a bunch of people started screaming about firing him for being lazy, not doing his job, and running an awful system.  

[IH8PU 220]

Over a nice hot cup of coffee with the sun rising behind the trees shining into my computer room window, reading threads from my last stop on Friday night .... my ignore list increased by one this morning.

Guess who?  

[IUCrazy2 2,364]

11 hours ago, AH1971 said:

Appreciate it, but if you don’t understand the importance of guard play

Nah, you don't get to claim objectivity and state that in defense of Mike Woodson.  Every one of Woodson's detractors understands the importance of guard play.  That is the reason they have been complaining about running Race and Trayce together.  Running Reneau and Ware in at the same time.  Failing to go and secure better guards to the point of leaving a scholarship open instead of landing one.

Mike Woodson doesn't deserve any kind of credit for doing the type of things that non-NBA coaching experienced, dumbasses on message boards have been saying needs done every offseason since he got here.  "Hey overpaid, arrogant dipshit, congrats on finally doing what everybody and their grandma has been telling you to do since you got here (at least when it comes to recruiting).  It only took enough people to seriously advocate firing you for you to figure out."

Why do we give out brownie points to a guy who HAS to fill up half his team and was kicked millions of extra dollars by billionaire buddies to go get players?  Of course he was going to get some guys.  He woke up and remembered to breath today, wanna give him an award for that too?

Here, Good job Mike.  You have apparently met the most basic requirements of your job by getting some what appear to be good players.  Now the real test comes in.  He has assembled what I am told are gourmet ingredients.  So I expect more than a classy ingredient Big Mac next year.  That is where chefs make their hay.  Anybody with money and access can acquire ingredients, the proof is in the taste and presentation.

[LamarCheeks 18,568]

This seems to come out of nowhere. 

Seth Davis, who seems to be somewhat well respected, had an interesting take -- seemingly revisiting the Brad Stevens to IU narrative. 

I don't want people to get all jacked up about the Masshole all over again, but this certainly was odd. Maybe he was joking? I don't know what led to this speculation. Davis says "Perhaps if there's a big job open in his native state next year ..."

Well, there WAS a big job open in 2021, and Stevens wasn't interested. Why would next year be any different? 

I just simply cannot imagine why the President of Basketball Operations of the NBA's most storied franchise, with the league's best record this year, would return to college and deal with coaching, recruiting and the NIL and portal messes. 

Maybe he's just trolling us? LOL! 

https://x.com/SethDavisHoops/status/1778858724360433687

[Dave from Dayton 3,078]

36 minutes ago, IH8PU said:

Over a nice hot cup of coffee with the sun rising behind the trees shining into my computer room window, reading threads from my last stop on Friday night .... my ignore list increased by one this morning.

Guess who?  

Dan Dakich?

Seth Davis?

Mike Woodson?

Edgar Allan Poe?

Stephen Bardo?

Class of '66 Old Fart?