Fire Coach Woodson Thread

[IUrocker 2,183]

3 minutes ago, str8baller said:

They are not. We don’t have too many issues this year that weren’t on display last year.  
 

Talent covered up some of those. And that blinded the administration into giving Woody a raise. So why would this off season be different. They’re going to see it as a talent issue. 

Yep that’s what I’m afraid of.

[bigrod 2,871]

If we go back to the interviews that Woodson had over the summer, with the talk of winning now and hanging a 6th banner, he is failing miserably by his own standards.

I too have fallen into apathy. I've been a fan for over 40 years, and now my normal routine now is to see the final score before I determine if I even watch the game. 

Unlike many on here, I was lucky enough to watch two championship seasons live. IUBB games used to be a central part of my day, but now, its no longer compelling. This whole hire a new coach, get excited, be disappointed, wash-rinse-repeat cycle is getting boring.

[HoosierFan1994 4,746]

A few thoughts I have: 

1) What if Liam decommits, Malik and Mgbako transfer, and IU doesn't land Queen? Not saying all will happen but possible. I don't see how Woodson can keep his job.

2) I don't care what state your program is in, you are always a great/very good coach away from being good. It's like having a franchise QB in the NFL. Ex: Go look at FAU's records before May. Iowa State won three games just 3 years ago. Otzelberger at Iowa State has been to a Sweet 16, 2 NCAA tournaments, and are a top 15 team this year. 

I said it the other day.. I don't think Woodson is the worlds worst coach. I also don't think he is the answer here for what IU fans want. Administration..that's a different story. 

[TTT 938]

Money and raises over the last few decades have accelerated in recent years like snowflakes in a blizzard.  
The coaches on IU bench look like a doofus cartoon as is the men’s basketball program.  Games are not lost on game day.  Games are lost on every day except game day.  Game day is the result of every other day during the year or in the case of IU the last quarter of a century.

[Chris007 43,979]

12 hours ago, Scotty R said:

He fired Allan after I emailed him after the Purdue game. I have emailed him twice after the first Purdue game and the PSU game

I love that you are sending emails and please keep it up but Allen was told he was going to be let go before the Purdue game. 

[8bucks 6,431]

11 hours ago, TheWatShot said:

Once the Boomers start cancelling their tickets, this program is in trouble. That generation still faithfully watches and goes to games because it's what they've always done. Nothing is being done to get younger people interested or excited about IU basketball. It's just stale and stuffy to them, and not worth their time. 

I thought the uniforms today and music at the Hoosierfest were for the younger fans?  I think having a contender regularly again will be enough to attract young and old.

[AZ Hoosier 7,069]

From where I sit, I can't help but think that Mike Woodson had no clue what it would take to coach P5 basketball. When he got here, the cupboard was pretty well stocked, and all he had to do was not screw it up... so for two seasons he managed to get by with moderate success and get to the tournament... and I give him credit for that - for not screwing it up so badly that IU did not miss the tournament. And he managed to catch lightning in a bottle with JHS.

However, when TJD, Race, Kopp and JHS, he failed to truly restock in the sense of building a roster that could be cohesive. The roster was deficient, there was a huge dearth of guards that could play and compete at the B1G level... the issues with X, the injuries, and the effort to get out of Bloomington and actually sell his vision for Indiana basketball appeared to be too much for him. 

At this point, he's old, he appears to be very low energy, and is full of tired, old cliches...

Drizzle-drazzle-druzzle-drone... time for this one to go home.

[TTT 938]

Simply put Mike Woodson and Calbert Cheaney were great IU basketball players and leaders of the program as players.
Not coaches at IU.  
I will remember them as players.  
Not coaches and it’s time for damage control and this failed experiment to end.

[Chris007 43,979]

I don't know what the answer is, but I do know it's not Mike Woodson. 

I still think Disty May can be the guy but he might need to have a defensive coach on staff.

I don't think Bruce Pearl is a possibility, I don't think Scott Drew is either. 

But we need some new life in this program. It's dying quickly

[Chris007 43,979]

Just now, TTT said:

Simply put Mike Woodson and Calbert Cheaney were great IU basketball players and leaders of the program as players.
Not coaches at IU.  
I will remember them as players.  
Not coaches and it’s time for damage control and this failed experiment to end.

I'm not sure Calbert has any part in this, he is just player development but doesn't scout, doesn't gameplan, doesn't recruit. 

[AZ Hoosier 7,069]

3 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I'm not sure Calbert has any part in this, he is just player development but doesn't scout, doesn't gameplan, doesn't recruit. 

He sure looked unhappy yesterday... every time the camera caught him sitting there, it looked like he'd rather be anywhere else...

[BleedCubbieBlue 1,395]

6 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I don't know what the answer is, but I do know it's not Mike Woodson. 

I still think Disty May can be the guy but he might need to have a defensive coach on staff.

I don't think Bruce Pearl is a possibility, I don't think Scott Drew is either. 

But we need some new life in this program. It's dying quickly

Why don't you think that Scott Drew is a possibility? I haven't seen any ridiculous buyout figures for him like we have with Bruce Pearl.

[Chris007 43,979]

Just now, AZ Hoosier said:

He sure looked unhappy yesterday... every time the camera caught him sitting there, it looked like he'd rather be anywhere else...

He's not happy, his job is on the line and he sees the same crap we're seeing. 

[OldBuddy67 254]

5 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I don't know what the answer is, but I do know it's not Mike Woodson. 

I still think Disty May can be the guy but he might need to have a defensive coach on staff.

I don't think Bruce Pearl is a possibility, I don't think Scott Drew is either. 

But we need some new life in this program. It's dying quickly

Agreed!

I don't even watch anymore and that stinks because it used to be appointment TV. Now I'm resigned to just seeing the result and I must say I'm not one bit surprised. With all that being said, I hope they keep losing! Winning only ensures another year of this train wreck and as you said the answer is not Mike Woodson!!!!!!!!!!!!

[JF87 1,452]

6 minutes ago, TTT said:

Simply put Mike Woodson and Calbert Cheaney were great IU basketball players and leaders of the program as players.
Not coaches at IU.  
I will remember them as players.  
Not coaches and it’s time for damage control and this failed experiment to end.

Unfortunately, if coach Woodson doesn't realize that he's not the guy to turn Indiana around and resign, my fond memories of Mike Woodson the player will be overshadowed by the mediocrity of Mike Woodson, the coach. 

[Chris007 43,979]

1 minute ago, BleedCubbieBlue said:

Why don't you think that Scott Drew is a possibility? I haven't seen any ridiculous buyout figures for him like we have with Bruce Pearl.

He makes good money at Baylor, he's been there forever, they just have a new facility. 

He's not well-liked by HS coaches & AAU coaches in Indiana. 

Maybe he is and I'm wrong. I wouldn't be mad if he was our coach. 

[Golfman25 5,335]

12 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I'm not sure Calbert has any part in this, he is just player development but doesn't scout, doesn't gameplan, doesn't recruit. 

And worked with Renue who has made obvious improvements 

[AH1971 1,465]

7 minutes ago, BleedCubbieBlue said:

Why don't you think that Scott Drew is a possibility? I haven't seen any ridiculous buyout figures for him like we have with Bruce Pearl.

Because guys just don't build something from the ground up, stay 20 years, win a national title, and then up and leave. You for sure talk to him if you're IU but really all that does is likely get him an extension at Baylor. He has everything he needs in Waco and then some. And if we're being honest with ourselves, Baylor IS the better basketball program over Indiana right now and has been for the last several years. Now obviously the perks and rewards of winning at IU far exceed what they do at a school like Baylor, but that probably doesn't matter to somebody like Scott Drew who really has nothing else to prove for himself.  

[JF87 1,452]

6 minutes ago, BleedCubbieBlue said:

Why don't you think that Scott Drew is a possibility? I haven't seen any ridiculous buyout figures for him like we have with Bruce Pearl.

Why would a Drew or Pearl leave a comfortable situation that they have built to come to IU?  We have become just another Big Ten team.  That saddens me to write, but it's true.  Bob Knight built something special and we've squandered our inheritance.  

[Trish 11,551]

5 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

And worked with Renue who has made obvious improvements 

He’s transferring.