Fire Coach Woodson + Assessment of Former Posters

[Class of '66 Old Fart 81,464]

4 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

If big money donors said "Woodson goes or I don't donate to men's basketball" that'd get their attention.

And by all indications, that's exactly why he's still the coach.  They didn't.  Big $$ donors said Woody stays or I go, meaning cut back on their annual contributions.  Why do you think Woody made a big deal of thanking Pete Yonkman, President of Cook Group in his Senior Night diatribe?  The money spoke and it spoke very loudly.

[Silat Player 267]

What a great day for IU Basketball. We have a young-ish alum that gets the Michigan basketball coaching job. 

Purdue is absolutely pummeling their opponent in the round of 32 in the NCAA tournament on their way to the Sweet 16. 

And IU still has a 66 year old coach with zero recruits for next year, half of an empty roster and and a team that is sitting at home on the opening round of the NCAA tournament. 

Wonderful....

[Feathery 4,003]

17 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

The people in charge care that he played there though.

If big money donors said "Woodson goes or I don't donate to men's basketball" that'd get their attention.

Yeah I get it. I just don’t relate to that type of thinking. Never have and never will. Nepotism is never the correct way to run an organization. 

[Kentuckysucks 2,143]

10 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

And by all indications, that's exactly why he's still the coach.  They didn't.  Big $$ donors said Woody stays or I go, meaning cut back on their annual contributions.  Why do you think Woody made a big deal of thanking Pete Yonkman, President of Cook Group in his Senior Night diatribe?  The money spoke and it spoke very loudly.

They don't sound like true fans to me.

[go iu bb 4,846]

1 hour ago, 8bucks said:

It is tough as we may also need to be patient with the next coach. We expect to get someone in here who will have us a top 20 team every year but we also want to go to final fours. There just are that many of those coaches out there. Would we be happy with a coach like Matt Painter?  The last few years sure but what about years 7,8 and 9 where they finished 6th, 7th then 12th in the BT.  We would have run him out of town.  
 

Shaka is an interesting candidate. He took a little time to turn TX around but seemed to be making progress his last 2 years there finishing 3rd in the Big12. Not great but getting there but when Pearl became available he was jettisoned.  
 

Hopefully we get that top 20 every coach but if not, hopefully we can become more patient (easier with a younger coach) and it pays off in the long run. 

Putting my response to this here rather than the coaching carousel thread so @Stuhoo doesn't yell at me.

Maybe keeping Woodson another year is part of Dolson's master plan to make sure the next coach is given some time. He saw how Crean was shown patience the first 3 years after inheriting nothing so he plans to do the same thing again without the sanctions. He knows that Woodson will drive the program into the ground and there won't be any talent left for the next coach. 

(Edit: The above is sarcasm. It would be an idiotic plan but I'm well aware that there is no plan as I say right after this.)

I don't really believe that is Dolson's plan but I do think it has a good chance of working out that way.

[cbp4iu 1,346]

4 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

Putting my response to this here rather than the coaching carousel thread so @Stuhoo doesn't yell at me.

Maybe keeping Woodson another year is part of Dolson's master plan to make sure the next coach is given some time. He saw how Crean was shown patience the first 3 years after inheriting nothing so he plans to do the same thing again without the sanctions. He knows that Woodson will drive the program into the ground and there won't be any talent left for the next coach. 

I don't really believe that is Dolson's plan but I do think it has a good chance of working out that way.

Also I think it’s going to give Dolson a whole year to really sit down and talk with a range of candidates handlers. I think February if IU is meh I think he’ll try to make sure by then he has his guy locked up. 

[OKHOOSIER 1,879]

1 hour ago, JXG said:

Better yet, if Dusty wins will Mike Woodson even be on the floor to shake his hand?

“Good game Rusty.”

[Chris007 42,427]

2 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

“Good game Rusty.”

Rusty June is hell of a coach for Michigan 

[OKHOOSIER 1,879]

10 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Rusty June is hell of a coach for Michigan 

Never heard of her. 

[Bowhunter 2,674]

Does anybody know Dusty’s buyout for next season lol 

[iu-dl 1,418]

Hope Dolson is paying attention to what's happening (happened) to the state of college basketball in Indiana. Humiliating mismanagement. Let's make sure we don't hurt anyone's feelings today though. I'd hate for Woody to go to bed grumpy so we can watch his lethargic as$ mope around the sidelines all next year just to fall even further behind. F this.

[NVFalcons1990 355]

1 hour ago, Feathery said:

Im 42 and his playing days means absolutely zero to me. This might seem harsh but even players I do remember playing I wish them well in their lives but that’s the extent of it. I wouldn’t hire them for a job just bc they played for IU. And I wouldn’t hesitate to fire someone just because they played for IU. 

I’m 52 and also his playing days mean zero to me.  Think I was 5-6years old, however I still hold on to those years between 1985-1992 range.  We were where “Duke, UNC and Kansas are now (consistent)

[JSHoosier 19,612]

1 hour ago, go iu bb said:

Putting my response to this here rather than the coaching carousel thread so @Stuhoo doesn't yell at me.

Maybe keeping Woodson another year is part of Dolson's master plan to make sure the next coach is given some time. He saw how Crean was shown patience the first 3 years after inheriting nothing so he plans to do the same thing again without the sanctions. He knows that Woodson will drive the program into the ground and there won't be any talent left for the next coach. 

I don't really believe that is Dolson's plan but I do think it has a good chance of working out that way.

There's no master plan. It's pure unadulterated nepotism.

[go iu bb 4,846]

1 minute ago, JSHoosier said:

There's no master plan. It's pure unadulterated nepotism.

 

1 hour ago, go iu bb said:

I don't really believe that is Dolson's plan but I do think it has a good chance of working out that way.

Thanks for telling me something I already know. I thought the sarcasm was apparent but I guess not. Even if that were the master plan, it'd be a truly idiotic plan.

[RoncalliHoosier 409]

1 hour ago, cbp4iu said:

Also I think it’s going to give Dolson a whole year to really sit down and talk with a range of candidates handlers. I think February if IU is meh I think he’ll try to make sure by then he has his guy locked up. 

I have little to no confidence in Dolson, as well. He's a shill for Buckner and the BoT, apparently.

[RoncalliHoosier 409]

1 hour ago, go iu bb said:

Putting my response to this here rather than the coaching carousel thread so @Stuhoo doesn't yell at me.

Maybe keeping Woodson another year is part of Dolson's master plan to make sure the next coach is given some time. He saw how Crean was shown patience the first 3 years after inheriting nothing so he plans to do the same thing again without the sanctions. He knows that Woodson will drive the program into the ground and there won't be any talent left for the next coach. 

I don't really believe that is Dolson's plan but I do think it has a good chance of working out that way.

I sincerely doubt that Dolson has a plan. He's flying by the seat of his pants. Failing to plan = planning to fail.

[RoncalliHoosier 409]

1 hour ago, cleeter said:

Donors won’t quit because Woodson isn’t here. They donated before Woodson and will after Woodson.

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Indiana appears to be dealing in the area of appeasing the butt-hurt. That's why we have Woodson. That's why Dolson won't do a *$#& thing to prevent butt-hurting the Cooks and Simons. 

[RoncalliHoosier 409]

1 hour ago, Feathery said:

Yeah I get it. I just don’t relate to that type of thinking. Never have and never will. Nepotism is never the correct way to run an organization. 

That would be a true statement if Buckner and the BoT cared one iota. Since the men's basketball program is in the dumpster, might as well give Woodson another $4.5M.

[go iu bb 4,846]

4 minutes ago, RoncalliHoosier said:

I sincerely doubt that Dolson has a plan. He's flying by the seat of his pants. Failing to plan = planning to fail.

Ugh, people can't even bother to read the whole thing. I should've been obvious sarcasm as it would be an idiotic plan then I say:

1 hour ago, go iu bb said:

I don't really believe that is Dolson's plan but I do think it has a good chance of working out that way.

 

[Magisterium 375]

3 hours ago, NVFalcons1990 said:

Why not a young Shaka Smart?

 375-171 record and now 10-10 in NCAA, Final 4 with VCU and is still in his 40’s.  Emotional, good X’s and O’s and his teams are always good shooters and love to turn teams over with speed!

He is underrated in my opinion, I know Texas didn’t work out but has demonstrated excellence at basketball first schools. 

Marquette is a better program than IU now and since MU has extended Smart through 2029 I would assume there’s a pretty expensive buyout in place as well, similar to Otzelberger and Iowa State.