*RANT HERE*

[Hoosier987 1,796]

24 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

What the hell are you talking about?  Armond Hill actually shifted in his seat during the game at Wisconsin.

He and Calbert should switch seats. 

[Hovadipo 60,145]

12 minutes ago, LIHoosier said:

Curious how much Dr. Dougie Buckets actually gives. If his last name was Cook, Dolson would be at his estate making him dinner to patch things up right now.

Hey, maybe he’s a folding chair-level donor. Got a feeling those guys aren’t sending “hope he sees this” emails and posting them on Peegs though. 

[Hoosier987 1,796]

19 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

The great coaches all are able to adjust -- to personal, to game matchups, to league rules, etc.  To date, Mike Woodson has shown an inability to make such adjustments.    

Which furthers the points to the fact that it’s great if Woodson is able to grab the best players out of the portal…but talent will only take you so far if he’s unwilling to make adjustments to his coaching style. 

[Josh 12,983]

27 minutes ago, Rico said:

I started suspecting after the Purdue debacle.  Then last night confirmed my suspicions that I am all "ranted" out.

Yessir.  I was at a business convention Tuesday and wasn't upset to miss an IU - Turdoo game.  Imagine that!  I didn't even care about it.  I didn't think I'd ever be here in my fandom but here I am.  Woody and Archie killed IU basketball 

[jonz44 827]

The great coaches all are able to adjust -- to personal, to game matchups, to league rules, etc.  To date, Mike Woodson has shown an inability to make such adjustments.    

I'm not sure that it's inability as much as unwillingness. I'm not sure which is worse.

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[Golfman25 6,304]

26 minutes ago, jonz44 said:

I'm not sure that it's inability as much as unwillingness. I'm not sure which is worse.

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Basically the same.  If you want to be great, you adjust.  If you just want to cash a check and get bought out, then you don't.  

[HoosierHoopster 7,706]

1 hour ago, Rico said:

I started suspecting after the Purdue debacle.  Then last night confirmed my suspicions that I am all "ranted" out.

But wait, I’ve still got some rants still brewing!

- Weekend “bikers” who just have to wear spandex- type biking uni’s- here’s a thought bikers, if your stomach and rear end are hanging out all over the side of the bike, is spandex your best look? 

- Men who gossip. Like, why? 

- People who gas in elevators…  how about when you get in the now empty but still “gassy” elevator, it goes down a floor, stops, and of course the pretty girl gets on. Noooo, it wasn’t me!

[8bucks 7,088]

First time seeing the “elbow”. What a joke of a call. Cant believe they ejected him. I know we lost and Woody is on the hot seat but that was at Wisconsin without Ware and with a completely ridiculous call against Gunn. That call is definitely Rant worthy and hopefully Btown ranted in the game thread.  

[IU - Kaulie 2,011]

4 hours ago, IndyResident16 said:

Totally fair. And I would agree with you. We really are just another basketball program these days (Dakich’s words verbatim).

But Dakich said it so it can’t be true lol. Some people are so soft.

But we are not just another basketball program.  The candy stripes and the ‘Indiana’ emblazoned on the back of the jacket still mean something.  Indiana fans will travel wherever the team goes and there are Indiana fans EVERYWHERE.  Indiana basketball still means something.  

There are a ton of fans in Btown right now that would jump at the chance to get a ticket to our next home game and to be inside the Hall.  We are all frustrated with our on court results over the years because we care and love Indiana basketball. That’s why we are not just another basketball program and never will be.
 

I disagree with the narrative about fans aging out.  Even if that were to happen, it wouldn’t be in any of our lifetimes that’s reading this.  There are too many grandfathers that have shared Indiana basketball with their kids.  There are too many dads that have shared Indiana basketball with their kids.  There are too many kids right now that go to bed crying after an IU loss.  Just another program?  Nope.
 

[Scotty R 2,915]

2 hours ago, Golfman25 said:

The great coaches all are able to adjust -- to personal, to game matchups, to league rules, etc.  To date, Mike Woodson has shown an inability to make such adjustments.    

I look at a coach like Rick Carlisle and how he has changed his coaching philosophy over the years. When he first was a HC he was very rigid and had to call every play on each possession. He was a slow pace coach and was all about defense. Today his team plays the fastest pace and he pretty much let the players play and not call a lot of the plays. I can never understand how a coach can be so stubborn and aren't willing to change from things that are not working.

[Hoosierfan2017 23,697]

9 minutes ago, IU - Kaulie said:

But we are not just another basketball program.  The candy stripes and the ‘Indiana’ emblazoned on the back of the jacket still mean something.  Indiana fans will travel wherever the team goes and there are Indiana fans EVERYWHERE.  Indiana basketball still means something.  

There are a ton of fans in Btown right now that would jump at the chance to get a ticket to our next home game and to be inside the Hall.  We are all frustrated with our on court results over the years because we care and love Indiana basketball. That’s why we are not just another basketball program and never will be.
 

I disagree with the narrative about fans aging out.  Even if that were to happen, it wouldn’t be in any of our lifetimes that’s reading this.  There are too many grandfathers that have shared Indiana basketball with their kids.  There are too many dads that have shared Indiana basketball with their kids.  There are too many kids right now that go to bed crying after an IU loss.  Just another program?  Nope.
 

It still means something to the fanbase. But nationally? IU basketball means less and less each year. It’s definitely just another program to the 16-17 year old recruits out there. Even Indiana kids have grown up during a time that Purdue has been the dominant program in the state. 

[Banksyrules 5,265]

I think the saving grace to the continued fan support of IU basketball is Indiana High School basketball. Those kids go to IU . If we didn't have that, yeah we would be like St. Johns.   St. Johns was big time in the 80's but it's nowhere near to that level even with Pitino taking over. 

[Hoosierfan2017 23,697]

4 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

I look at a coach like Rick Carlisle and how he has changed his coaching philosophy over the years. When he first was a HC he was very rigid and had to call every play on each possession. He was a slow pace coach and was all about defense. Today his team plays the fastest pace and he pretty much let the players play and not call a lot of the plays. I can never understand how a coach can be so stubborn and aren't willing to change from things that are not working.

I mean, Woodson wasn’t a good head coach in the NBA. He won 46% of his games during the regular season. 39% in the playoffs. The idea that he was going to come take the college basketball world by storm in his mid-60s after never coaching in college a day or his life was always wishful thinking. The NBA recycles coaches yet no one gave him a head coaching job for almost a decade. Until big brain Scott Dolson came along, that is. 

[Kentuckysucks 3,621]

2 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I mean, Woodson wasn’t a good head coach in the NBA. He won 46% of his games during the regular season. 39% in the playoffs. The idea that he was going to come take the college basketball world by storm in his mid-60s after never coaching in college a day or his life was always wishful thinking. The NBA recycles coaches yet no one gave him a head coaching job for almost a decade. Until big brain Scott Dolson came along, that is. 

Buckner.

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13 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

I look at a coach like Rick Carlisle and how he has changed his coaching philosophy over the years. When he first was a HC he was very rigid and had to call every play on each possession. He was a slow pace coach and was all about defense. Today his team plays the fastest pace and he pretty much let the players play and not call a lot of the plays. I can never understand how a coach can be so stubborn and aren't willing to change from things that are not working.

There is a reason Carlisle is an NBA champion and still coaching.

[IUFAN1976 4,320]

41 minutes ago, IU - Kaulie said:

But we are not just another basketball program.  The candy stripes and the ‘Indiana’ emblazoned on the back of the jacket still mean something.  Indiana fans will travel wherever the team goes and there are Indiana fans EVERYWHERE.  Indiana basketball still means something.  

There are a ton of fans in Btown right now that would jump at the chance to get a ticket to our next home game and to be inside the Hall.  We are all frustrated with our on court results over the years because we care and love Indiana basketball. That’s why we are not just another basketball program and never will be.
 

I disagree with the narrative about fans aging out.  Even if that were to happen, it wouldn’t be in any of our lifetimes that’s reading this.  There are too many grandfathers that have shared Indiana basketball with their kids.  There are too many dads that have shared Indiana basketball with their kids.  There are too many kids right now that go to bed crying after an IU loss.  Just another program?  Nope.
 

I don’t think across the country that IU is a household name in CBB for high school kids but I think it still is in Indiana for the most part because of exactly what you said but CMW doesn’t seem to be recruiting the Braiden Smith’s and Fletcher Loyer’s in Indiana and he’s missing out on quality, fundamental players that play with a lot of heart and determination because they aren’t 5* players and MW wants to sit at the table.  However, when these high school players visits IU and see’s AH, the banners and watch a meaningful game, that’s when they start considering IU.  That is why it is important for CMW to get players on campus.

[IndyResident16 567]

1 hour ago, IU - Kaulie said:

But we are not just another basketball program.  The candy stripes and the ‘Indiana’ emblazoned on the back of the jacket still mean something.  Indiana fans will travel wherever the team goes and there are Indiana fans EVERYWHERE.  Indiana basketball still means something.  

There are a ton of fans in Btown right now that would jump at the chance to get a ticket to our next home game and to be inside the Hall.  We are all frustrated with our on court results over the years because we care and love Indiana basketball. That’s why we are not just another basketball program and never will be.
 

I disagree with the narrative about fans aging out.  Even if that were to happen, it wouldn’t be in any of our lifetimes that’s reading this.  There are too many grandfathers that have shared Indiana basketball with their kids.  There are too many dads that have shared Indiana basketball with their kids.  There are too many kids right now that go to bed crying after an IU loss.  Just another program?  Nope.
 

Indiana has a very loyal and strong fan base, nobody is denying that. But Indiana the last two decades is just another program in the hierarchy of college basketball. Nobody looks at Indiana the way they used too. You weren’t alive the last time Indiana had a relevant basketball team. It’s not something I’d expect you or many others on here to understand.

[IndyResident16 567]

1 hour ago, IUFAN1976 said:

I don’t think across the country that IU is a household name in CBB for high school kids but I think it still is in Indiana for the most part because of exactly what you said but CMW doesn’t seem to be recruiting the Braiden Smith’s and Fletcher Loyer’s in Indiana and he’s missing out on quality, fundamental players that play with a lot of heart and determination because they aren’t 5* players and MW wants to sit at the table.  However, when these high school players visits IU and see’s AH, the banners and watch a meaningful game, that’s when they start considering IU.  That is why it is important for CMW to get players on campus.

Woody’s NBA connections and IU’s NIL budget are a much bigger selling point to 5* recruits than an Indiana or its basketball history. NIL will always allow IU to keep its head above water, but we’ve been treading for years. Need a coach and new administration leadership ASAP.

[Golfman25 6,304]

1 hour ago, IU - Kaulie said:

But we are not just another basketball program.  The candy stripes and the ‘Indiana’ emblazoned on the back of the jacket still mean something.  Indiana fans will travel wherever the team goes and there are Indiana fans EVERYWHERE.  Indiana basketball still means something.  

There are a ton of fans in Btown right now that would jump at the chance to get a ticket to our next home game and to be inside the Hall.  We are all frustrated with our on court results over the years because we care and love Indiana basketball. That’s why we are not just another basketball program and never will be.
 

I disagree with the narrative about fans aging out.  Even if that were to happen, it wouldn’t be in any of our lifetimes that’s reading this.  There are too many grandfathers that have shared Indiana basketball with their kids.  There are too many dads that have shared Indiana basketball with their kids.  There are too many kids right now that go to bed crying after an IU loss.  Just another program?  Nope.
 

But here's the thing.  My kid grew up listening to his mom and I tell him how great the 87 Championship was.  His first Assembly Hall game was the Wat Shot year 2011/12.  Went to vs. Ohio State on New Year's Eve -- for the victory.  He was 11.  Watched the run in 2012/13.  Crean wasn't able to sustain it, but there was always hope.  The Miller era brought renewed hope that we finally found the young, generational coach to take IU back to where it belonged.  Kid ended up entering as a Freshman in 2018, with Romeo.  We were back, baby!!!!  But we weren't.  After three years and lots of frustration, Miller is out.  Woodson enters, and at least gets them to the tournament again.  But the kid -- he looks at me and says "this sucks."   And so another fan is lost.  

[IndyResident16 567]

11 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

But here's the thing.  My kid grew up listening to his mom and I tell him how great the 87 Championship was.  His first Assembly Hall game was the Wat Shot year 2011/12.  Went to vs. Ohio State on New Year's Eve -- for the victory.  He was 11.  Watched the run in 2012/13.  Crean wasn't able to sustain it, but there was always hope.  The Miller era brought renewed hope that we finally found the young, generational coach to take IU back to where it belonged.  Kid ended up entering as a Freshman in 2018, with Romeo.  We were back, baby!!!!  But we weren't.  After three years and lots of frustration, Miller is out.  Woodson enters, and at least gets them to the tournament again.  But the kid -- he looks at me and says "this sucks."   And so another fan is lost.  

Our sons are about the same age. He grew up watching IU because his dad loved watching IU games and went to a fair share of them, but I ended up cancelling my season tickets that I’ve held since 96 at the start of his junior year because he had no interest in going to the games anymore….and he was a student in Bloomington at the time.

None of his buddies growing up or even in high school watched IU and many of them wound up going there. I strongly feel there’s a massive decline in IU fandom from our youth. I watched/listened to every IU game growing up starting around the age of 8 or 9. Mike Woodson believe it or not was the first IU player that I have any recollection of